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[Voilsh]

Won't be weak, I promise you.
Yes, male MC. Yes, there will be corruption. As for the mystery, not sure what you mean. The MC won't be aware for quite some time.

Nice. The idea of mystery is catch glimpse of what's going on but never show fully, like used condoms that the mc can find but guess it has nothing to do with his girl, hickey/cum on lips the reader notices but not the mc, phone calls where she sounds weird, nearby room with bed creaking sounds, getting more and more sexy as time passes, etc etc. Basically hiding the girl pov or only showing it if the player wants to see it.
IMO it's the best for corruption and oblivious mc.

As for the avoidable NTR, I know a lot people don't like this kind of approach, but I wanted to do a Love Path too from the very beginning. I like games with some sweet romance, so I decided to do that with mine as well.

You'll set the path you want when the game begins. And don't worry, there will be lots of netorare scenes later in the game, I just need to set the context and the relationship first to have a bigger impact when the cheating starts.

If you mean two different routes then that's fine. Avoidable is more "each scene can be cancelled by the player" which makes the story super weak.
Good luck anyway, I don't think I've ever played an actual good ntr story using daz3d characters. Most of the time it was wife sharing, cuckold/netorase, or just "girl is a slut and fucks everyone". With bad, very bad writing.

 

[melantha]

I believe it's just that in general, devs know there's some merit to avoidable NTR, but dont understand it truly
and thus we have a variety of avoidable approaches that also confused us players on what we wanted
examples would be

• choose this dialog option to avoid NTR or not
• dont lose this battle to avoid NTR or not
• dont take too long to finish task to avoid NTR or not
• make sure to do this, have this item, to avoid NTR or not
• etc

here's my take

there's a certain amplifier to NTR when you don't know its happening, or if it will ever happen
it's the surprise factor.
it kills the suspense if it's unavoidable. you're always on the watch
the only question running in your mind is "is it now?"
might as well just skip the game and watch an NTR hentai series

doubts and suspicions are good amplifiers of NTR

so avoidable is not there to be a legitimate route to play on, it's only to open the possibility (kinda illusion) that you might not encounter NTR - but when it does, it hits harder because you didnt expect it. thats why most happy ends on NTR games are short, and some don't even have sex scenes.

just saying that and reading back the list, immediately some scenarios get invalidated why they wont work - dialog options are usually very telling what its gonna cause. losing battles have no surprise and move it into ntrs, etc.

some better games attempt the next two approach like tasks, and fulfilling NTR conditions but ultimately become uncesessarily complex e.g. nebel

it is difficult to tread this line guys.
making avoidables that will be satisfactory for the majority is hard

 

[hitmanbhi]

I had asked this an year ago or before. I want to know again if someday has fresh recommendations.

Do you guys know any western novels/books containing netorare elements (please note not cuckold ones, because there are huge amount of that).

Got a further revenge angle would also help. thank you.

 

[Pango_12]

Is this NTR or Netori?

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The art is good, but from the description it sounds like it is Netori. The gameplay seem nice, though.

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Yea, I never really saw anything I liked in koikatsu so I avoided games in that style. But then with nothin to play I tried king of summer which made me rethink by views on it, the scenes were hot and the story really sold it.

The dev started mixing netorase story lines within the netorare story path so it dropped off hard for me personally. But it made me start to look at more koikatsu cg games. Its not the art but how the art is used to tell the story.

Yeah King of Summer is great in spite of being koikatsu haha.

 

[Voilsh]

I had asked this an year ago or before. I want to know again if someday has fresh recommendations.

Do you guys know any western novels/books containing netorare elements (please note not cuckold ones, because there are huge amount of that).

Got a further revenge angle would also help. thank you.

99% is pure cuckold or cheating slut wives pov, but this one was very good ntr :

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I suggest reading with Aki pov only to have a good mystery ntr story, and then follow with other pov from the start again.
I was honestly surprised on how good it was, I guess I just expect nothing from western authors.
No revenge though, sorry.

 

[Voilsh]

Is this NTR or Netori?

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The art is good, but from the description it sounds like it is Netori. The gameplay seem nice, though.

Apparently it's both according to the tags.

 

[Diablos]

Any recommendations for a shota NTR similiar to that one route in Solgante?

 

[LordFrz]

you should try games by fujino... "Scathatch prologue", "Sakura's Chapter", "Nero" and "Nero remake", "Chainsaw man Hotspring travel" and "Sword art online: Trap of breath and concealed magic"

Yea, Fujino the GOAT, thats another one that I only tried after playing KoS and his story in SAO is perfect mystery NTR.

 

[Kazaim]

Like how often do NTR fans play avoid the NTR route because as a NTR fan I can’t recall a time where I actually seriously invested my time playing a NTR avoid route. Just seems a waste of time to I might as well play a different game and playing the non NTR route isn’t all of a sudden gonna make the NTR route more impactful for me

Nah. NTR should just be completely unavoidable. Otherwise, it isn't NTR, it is just Pseudo-NTR, because you are given a choice and power in the matter. Hopelessness is better than you being the "God" of said Game/Novel where you have the choice/option/power to avoid it.

Just my two cents

 

[Pango_12]

The NTR of my dreams would be a straightforward hero's journey for the most part, with a twist in the reveal at the end.
The more I thought about it, I think what I liked most was 'cheating' rather than 'NTR'.
As for Mystery NTR... it's basically cheating, right? I mean, the heroine would just be doing 'things' behind the MC's back and maybe hurt him in one way or another.

 

[Voilsh]

I think what I appreciate even less with choices is when they force the mc to go full asshole to start the ntr route.
- Cheat on your girlfriend? Yes/No (yes means you enter the ntr route, probably the worst one of the bunch)
- Get angry and make a mess ? Yes/No
- Be overly jealous and be an asshole to everyone? Yes/No

IMO these are very bad choices, I like it better when choices respect more the philosophy of "even if mc is a good person, he ends up being ntred".

 

[Voilsh]

The NTR of my dreams would be a straightforward hero's journey for the most part, with a twist in the reveal at the end.
The more I thought about it, I think what I liked most was 'cheating' rather than 'NTR'.
As for Mystery NTR... it's basically cheating, right? I mean, the heroine would just be doing 'things' behind the MC's back and maybe hurt him in one way or another.

Yeah it's the cheating you're talking about.
In the contest of your hero's journey, it'll be "girls are one by one corrupted and ntred behind the back of the mc" and "nothing is shown directly to the mc nor the viewer but you see pieces of evidence of the process."

 

[Pango_12]

Yeah it's the cheating you're talking about.
In the contest of your hero's journey, it'll be "girls are one by one corrupted and ntred behind the back of the mc" and "nothing is shown directly to the mc nor the viewer but you see pieces of evidence of the process."

Literally

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The journey is over. A gift has come, with a familiar name attached to it.
I wished the princess also got taken, too. Would've been perfect.

 

[Voilsh]

Literally

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The journey is over. A gift has come, with a familiar name attached to it.
I wished the princess also got taken, too. Would've been perfect.

Oh yeah Fist Saint was good, I need to finish it.
But no, not this, because it shows the female pov.
What I mean is like this one, which is also a great ntr story :

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If you only read the chapters with arabic numeral, you won't see the other side of what's really going on but you will have pieces of evidence.
Highly recommend it.

 

[ktez]

Oh yeah Fist Saint was good, I need to finish it.
But no, not this, because it shows the female pov.
What I mean is like this one, which is also a great ntr story :

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If you only read the chapters with arabic numeral, you won't see the other side of what's really going on but you will have pieces of evidence.
Highly recommend it.

Where do you translate this kind of thing? DeepL? I want to read it but last time I had to use DeepL and it feels really slow and most of the time gets the translation wrong.

 

[Pango_12]

Where do you translate this kind of thing? DeepL? I want to read it but last time I had to use DeepL and it feels really slow and most of the time gets the translation wrong.

Just use Google translate webpage. I already played most games with MTL anyway.

 

[LordFrz]

I want my NTR to have payoff in the end, the MC needs to find out that the girl has been stolen or it stays just her cheating behind his back. The last of the games needs to be that reveal that the girl is now someone elses.

My dream NTR would be the hero sending his girl back to a safe city with a tough sassy female guard. He sends them to safety to fight bandits or somthin and plans to catch up to them, he knows now that they are heading to safety, there is nothin to worry about, even the playboy guard thats been hitting on them will be right next to him fighting bandits and the female guard can beat anyone who causes trouble.

But when you get back to the city, the kind noble who fled back to town with them has completely corrupted both of them and you just have to watch as the once proud guard bounces on his dick while the MCs girl lick the nobles ass.

Basically NTR were you think you did everything right and have won, only to get blind sided by the NTR.

 

[Reven23]

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Nekonohoshi returns. I really liked his game where they were stuck on an island. Ya'll got any links?

 

[blablablagivemethemoney]

Nah. NTR should just be completely unavoidable. Otherwise, it isn't NTR, it is just Pseudo-NTR, because you are given a choice and power in the matter. Hopelessness is better than you being the "God" of said Game/Novel where you have the choice/option/power to avoid it.

Just my two cents

disagree, unavoidable NTR is just a subset of NTR imo, and doesnt make avoidable NTR any less legitimate. it's not like everyone who got cheated on in the real world couldn't have somehow avoided it. if unavoidable NTR is focused on hopelessness, then avoidable NTR is focused on one's failure as a man. the reason avoidable NTR in games feels weak is because it's too easy to avoid NTR, or the game makes it too clear from the get-go how to exactly avoid it. a game like Leane 2 does avoidable NTR pretty well, because it's not clear how the NTR is going to work until it hits you like a sack of bricks, as you watch those guards stroll into the same city that 8 of your heroines are nested in and bring them all back to the king's harem.

Nebel deserves praise because it really does do the mystery NTR x avoidable NTR combo super well. i havent even watched the events in the gallery yet because i had too much fun with the little snippets you come across + the status screens. god, those status screens are elite.