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[Gone405]

Netorase phone Great idea for a ntr game, and the implementation of the message system is very good. Playing it on a phone is incredibly immersive. It's just a pity that the developer, even using ai generation, gives 3-4 pictures per update. Like, he can generate 500 juicy images, in different poses, it's not that hard, I have no idea why he does not use this tool to its full potential

Very much agree this game has been very fun but man come in get some more pics. It really shouldn't be hard to get more pictures.

 

[Hallokun]

Very much agree this game has been very fun but man come in get some more pics. It really shouldn't be hard to get more pictures.

Yeah, but given that many people have seen interest in such a game, a lot of "reskins" are already starting to appear, hopefully some of them will go further than this developer.

 

[Gone405]

Yeah, but given that many people have seen interest in such a game, a lot of "reskins" are already starting to appear, hopefully some of them will go further than this developer.

You're very much right it's only a matter of time that someone else will do this. Maybe even better honestly. Love the Miku pfp btw 10/10.

 

[melantha]

It's just a pity that the developer, even using ai generation, gives 3-4 pictures per update. Like, he can generate 500 juicy images, in different poses, it's not that hard, I have no idea why he does not use this tool to its full potential

Very much agree this game has been very fun but man come in get some more pics. It really shouldn't be hard to get more pictures.

I haven't played the game so I'm not sure about the quality of the images this developer releases, but I would just like to clear up the misunderstanding IN GENERAL that AI generation is "easy".

sure any one here can go into some AI image generation site, write a 1-liner prompt, click generate and done.

however, that's not the case if one wants to get serious about it and especially if it involves putting it in a game.

it would help having a lora, but it's not straightforward to generate consistent characters. i have been checking out stable diffusion on and off for the past months, and it is very involved. during initial operation, it would be wise to have your own local setup in your computer so as not to rely on online currencies, and the controls for local installations are much better than online ones.

there's a lot of extensions that can be installed like controlnet, detailers, etc which can improve results - but as you can already tell, this isn't your 1-click generate image process. sometimes you have to do a bit of in-painting, open-pose, or sometimes even making a rouch sketch to match what you have in mind better.

it does help once you have your setup going, yes then you can chuck out more images more frequently - but not at the rate you guys are imaginging. many experience "AI artists" on twitter can usually release 1 image per day, many taking more days, and thats different characters each time.

then imagine needing programiming, script writing, testing and bug fix. then include real life, maybe full-time work?

the potential difference between hand-drawn aritst and a serious AI artist is likely how long the whole project will take - not the fact the latter can fart 10 scenes in one update. also mentioning the quality - while many hate AI style, there are newer models that you can't even notice it's AI because it's not your traditional cetusMix or meinaMix. many hand-draw will likely go flat-shade colors.

it's not just "time" concept, but quality concept. two artworks, one hand-drawn and one AI might take the same amount of time, it's just that AI might have more quality to it. and this is not to criticize hand artists. I have feelings about it because I do both.

but then again, I've seen non-serious AI games that do the traditional 1-click generate, meh it works for me, then ship it. so we get bad AI games. do you want that to happen to your favorite game? just throw away images with bad hands, inconsistent hair style, and eye colors? coz that's what happens when you want 72 CGs per update

 

[GorillaMond]

Wakeup fellows, Gifu to Doukyou Suru ni Natta dai ni wa part 2 just dropped

 

[Gone405]

I haven't played the game so I'm not sure about the quality of the images this developer releases, but I would just like to clear up the misunderstanding IN GENERAL that AI generation is "easy".

sure any one here can go into some AI image generation site, write a 1-liner prompt, click generate and done.

however, that's not the case if one wants to get serious about it and especially if it involves putting it in a game.

it would help having a lora, but it's not straightforward to generate consistent characters. i have been checking out stable diffusion on and off for the past months, and it is very involved. during initial operation, it would be wise to have your own local setup in your computer so as not to rely on online currencies, and the controls for local installations are much better than online ones.

there's a lot of extensions that can be installed like controlnet, detailers, etc which can improve results - but as you can already tell, this isn't your 1-click generate image process. sometimes you have to do a bit of in-painting, open-pose, or sometimes even making a rouch sketch to match what you have in mind better.

it does help once you have your setup going, yes then you can chuck out more images more frequently - but not at the rate you guys are imaginging. many experience "AI artists" on twitter can usually release 1 image per day, many taking more days, and thats different characters each time.

then imagine needing programiming, script writing, testing and bug fix. then include real life, maybe full-time work?

the potential difference between hand-drawn aritst and a serious AI artist is likely how long the whole project will take - not the fact the latter can fart 10 scenes in one update

but then again, I've seen non-serious AI games that do the traditional 1-click generate, meh it works for me, then ship it. so we get bad AI games. do you want that to happen to your favorite game? just throw away images with bad hands, inconsistent hair style, and eye colors? coz that's what happens when you want 72 CGs per update

I figured that you would need to do more to get more specific images but this is still easier than trying to draw it all. It's seems to be a very repetitive process so i get the slowness of it. Tho AI will continue to improve and make it easier so soon it won't be as involved as before. Hopefully they will get a set up soon.

 

[melantha]

I figured that you would need to do more to get more specific images but this is still easier than trying to draw it all. It's seems to be a very repetitive process so i get the slowness of it. Tho AI will continue to improve and make it easier so soon it won't be as involved as before. Hopefully they will get a set up soon.

sorry for going off topic for a bit, but I disagree with AI improving to get less involved.

it started that way, being less involved, and the improvement of technology will continue to require it to become even more involved. as more tools gets released making it easier to arrive at the same image in your mind, it will be at the cost of spending a bit more time to set it up.

search for comfyUI and see how some of the tools evolve and some processes make it look like you're creating a full pledged shader graph for a game.

it will get more complex, more detailed, more involved in setup process. this is what's needed for us to get better quality AI images. the goal right now is quality, because quantity is something prevalent back when AI image generation first popped off.

still it's not like all AI artists are pushing for this envelope. it will be scattered in terms of effort each one putting how much work they want, and thus varying quality as well.

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sorry off-topic, I got a bit passionat back there.. so back to NTR!

I'm looking for sister ntr games any suggestion.

what do you guys think about sister NTR, is it NTR at all?
is it required for MC to have romantic feelings? coz you guys do it to mother figures, then sisters too?

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where female friend was stroking me, and my sister was beside us with a man on top of her. friend says the sister will eventually get a boyfriend and husband sooner or later anyway, why not let her feel it now. you can only watch as another man take your sister, providing her with experience and pleasure you can never give her. the man touching her, and savoring intimate parts of her you will never feel. to think you've been with her since you were little, seeing her innocent face almost everyday - but now some man who she just met is leering at her exposed body, skin and flesh you have never seen before.

sorry I sound like a chatbot, they're getting into me. prepare for Melantha-8b

 

[Gone405]

sorry for going off topic for a bit, but I disagree with AI improving to get less involved.

it started that way, being less involved, and the improvement of technology will continue to require it to become even more involved. as more tools gets released making it easier to arrive at the same image in your mind, it will be at the cost of spending a bit more time to set it up.

search for comfyUI and see how some of the tools evolve and some processes make it look like you're creating a full pledged shader graph for a game.

it will get more complex, more detailed, more involved in setup process. this is what's needed for us to get better quality AI images. the goal right now is quality, because quantity is something prevalent back when AI image generation first popped off.

still it's not like all AI artists are pushing for this envelope. it will be scattered in terms of effort each one putting how much work they want, and thus varying quality as well.

No it's no issue at all very interesting to see this topic. At that point it seems better to just learn to art at that point if it's going to get more complex. That just seems very counterintuitive. I get that the R&D needs to happen to make things faster but idk seems to be more work. Ig it's also comes from that fact that I do draw and thing it would be easier to learn to draw rather learn to use the AI if it's that involved. Ty for sharing your knowledge tho much appreciated <3.

 

[Knight6797]

sorry for going off topic for a bit, but I disagree with AI improving to get less involved.

it started that way, being less involved, and the improvement of technology will continue to require it to become even more involved. as more tools gets released making it easier to arrive at the same image in your mind, it will be at the cost of spending a bit more time to set it up.

search for comfyUI and see how some of the tools evolve and some processes make it look like you're creating a full pledged shader graph for a game.

it will get more complex, more detailed, more involved in setup process. this is what's needed for us to get better quality AI images. the goal right now is quality, because quantity is something prevalent back when AI image generation first popped off.

still it's not like all AI artists are pushing for this envelope. it will be scattered in terms of effort each one putting how much work they want, and thus varying quality as well.

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sorry off-topic, I got a bit passionat back there.. so back to NTR!



what do you guys think about sister NTR, is it NTR at all?
is it required for MC to have romantic feelings? coz you guys do it to mother figures, then sisters too?

I recently

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where female friend was stroking me, and my sister was beside us with a man on top of her. friend says the sister will eventually get a boyfriend and husband sooner or later anyway, why not let her feel it now. you can only watch as another man take your sister, providing her with experience and pleasure you can never give her. the man touching her, and savoring intimate parts of her you will never feel. to think you've been with her since you were little, seeing her innocent face almost everyday - but now some man who she just met is leering at her exposed body, skin and flesh you have never seen before.

sorry I sound like a chatbot, they're getting into me. prepare for Melantha-8b

Ur probably gonna ask 10 people and get 10 different answers, imo NTR is connected to people that you can have actual romantic interest in so if that is the sister in this story then yeah (there are popular hentai movies who have exactly that plot setup) but people might already see it as NTR if ur family gets fucked by people behind ur back, imo it's a strong feeling of betrayal but not necessarily NTR but as I said ur gonna have different opinions on that.

 

[crnisl]

I'm looking for sister ntr games any suggestion.

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what do you guys think about sister NTR, is it NTR at all?
is it required for MC to have romantic feelings? coz you guys do it to mother figures, then sisters too?

As Enlight432 wrote

In most of games, MC does not have romantic or sexual feelings towards his mom, But most people accept this person's games as ntr-oriented.

Of course, the fact that MC's mother is stolen and there is no mother-boy relationship conveys NTR's feelings to some extent
It's true that he doesn't have romantic or sexual feelings towards his mother, but he has filial feelings towards her,It is also considered a type of relationship where one person comes and destroys it and the other party is not in your life or that feeling does not exist.

 

[crnisl]

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I'd recommend to try netorase loops with the bots, when you're lending your sister to someone and getting her reports, videocalls, etc.
Write "in a next day", "timeskip", etc., to move the plot.

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works quite well for it.
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is a fine character if you want to play sis-netori.

 

[Gone405]

I'd recommend to try netorase loops with the bots, when you're lending your sister to someone and getting her reports, videocalls, etc.
Write "in a next day", "timeskip", etc., to move the plot.

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works quite well for it.
And

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is a fine character if you want to play sis-netori.

I will look more into this. I've wanted to try this with a hot just wasn't sure what the best choice was ty ty for sharing.

 

[zebucetiva]

silojin got doxxed on ntr discord View attachment 3821332

Don't mess with cuck army
Jokes aside, what an excuse of life this mofo is living, eh? If I was this fucked up, would be bitter too...

 

[melantha]

At that point it seems better to just learn to art at that point if it's going to get more complex. That just seems very counterintuitive. I get that the R&D needs to happen to make things faster but idk seems to be more work. Ig it's also comes from that fact that I do draw and thing it would be easier to learn to draw rather learn to use the AI if it's that involved. Ty for sharing your knowledge tho much appreciated <3.

some people are just more inclined to do more technical stuff than creative stuff. like those tests like left and right side of the brain doing different things and some lean towards one side. so it opens up an avenue for more technical/logical people do make art. I like these discussions too, good to see artists here and there.

Ur probably gonna ask 10 people and get 10 different answers, imo NTR is connected to people that you can have actual romantic interest in so if that is the sister in this story then yeah (there are popular hentai movies who have exactly that plot setup) but people might already see it as NTR if ur family gets fucked by people behind ur back, imo it's a strong feeling of betrayal but not necessarily NTR but as I said ur gonna have different opinions on that.

In most of games, MC does not have romantic or sexual feelings towards his mom, But most people accept this person's games as ntr-oriented.

Of course, the fact that MC's mother is stolen and there is no mother-boy relationship conveys NTR's feelings to some extent
It's true that he doesn't have romantic or sexual feelings towards his mother, but he has filial feelings towards her,It is also considered a type of relationship where one person comes and destroys it and the other party is not in your life or that feeling does not exist.

you're guys are right, and there's the fact that some people have sisters and some don't - which can possibly affect their answers.
i don't wanna accidentally turn it into a "what is NTR" discussion again lol

 

[Gone405]

some people are just more inclined to do more technical stuff than creative stuff. like those tests like left and right side of the brain doing different things and some lean towards one side. so it opens up an avenue for more technical/logical people do make art. I like these discussions too, good to see artists here and there.

That's very understandable I'm that way to a point as well when I first started to mod (7 plus years ago) it was so fun learning how the tools work and how to fully utilize them. So that curiosity I get.

 

[Cartman-Brah]

I want to like ntr games but man... is there a risk that he'll turn me into someone like that in real life?

 

[crnisl]

there's the fact that some people have sisters and some don't

Well, there's another fact that some people fuck sisters, and some don't.
A question, do you cuck your dad with fucking his daughter?

 

[Gone405]

I want to like ntr games but man... is there a risk that he'll turn me into someone like that in real life?

I mean I feel like you just need to separate the two world. I wouldn't want my real gf to cuck me as it's not a turn on for me. I like the games because it's not real I can just have fun in these world and experience that kink without having to ask someone else to join me in it. Tho I get some others may have issue trying to keep the two world apart.

 

[Gone405]

Well, there's another fact that some people fuck sisters, and some don't.
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Lmao home girl didn't even clean up just filled up xD.

 

[desmosome]

Oi, homies, I'd appreciate it if you answered this POLL real quick. I want some actual numbers to my theory.
https://f95zone.to/threads/poll-netorare-vs-netorase-fans-do-you-self-insert-as-the-cuck.216195/