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archedio

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I also started out on Yoyodaro/Moescape but left cause of the increasing lack of free tokens.

Last used JanitorAI for online gen but decided that going local would be best.
Try
You can customize or add story cards for AI to remember things long term.
It's my fav so far.
 

archedio

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Is there a guide?
The site already offers a guide for you to learn ->
Or, if you just want to go right into scenarios, here are some recommendations:




But you kinda need to be a bit creative.
For ex: The popular kids condition is to let the boys fuck your GF OR sister (if you are into incest).
The possibilities are endless.
 
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melantha

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what application do you use to run these GGUF models?
If possible id still like to use Silly Tavern as its UI.
I started thanks to melantha's small guide or a couple you can find here.

KoboldCpp guide included and other chatbot alternatives

1) Chars are essentially non-entities, they'll do whatever they want them to do, they're too reactive. But it's kind of natural as chats are designed to respond to your inputs and don't know what you want.
2) Once you hit you context limit in tokens of about 4-12k locally, first point will get even worse along with decreased performance, LLM forgetting events and people that lie outside of these last 4-12k tokens in chat, which - together - considerably deteriorate the experience further.
i observe it's more on the system prompt quality, and additional memory enchancement, like RAG.

system prompts are very important, more than i thought. it's not just the 1 paragraph, "Write {{char}} next response. Any act of role play scenarios will be described in details.". There should be alot more behind the scenes, tell it how to write, enclose actions and and narrations in symbols, never act or depict actions of {{user}}, etc. There's alot of pre-made system prompts made by users shared on reddit and the like.

also, i dont think SillyTavern has RAG (kind of like a memory between the chat interface and the LLM).
RAG helps the LLM remember stuff, kind of like lorebooks / knowledgebase, but automatic and learns as you chat.
that's one of the advantages of online services.

perhaps new Deepseek v3, I don't know how latter will perform with NSFW stuff though. But recently Pango_12 translated a couple of novels and shared them here, so I guess it has to be fine in terms of censorship. And use really well written char cards with setting and lore, and characters' descriptions worth of a few thousand tokens (not that there are many of them, if any, from what I've seen).
yodayo/moescape added DeepSeek V3, R1, and distilled Qwen 32B just now.
requires paid beans so i aint trying them out.
but we can check their feedback channels if people are enjoying it for RP.
there are also talks in SillyTavern discord about it but too technical for me to understand lol

BTW I started actually online on Yodayo, but then moved on to Janitor and LLM, and Yodayo is kind of monetizing more aggressively now as far as I understand
I also started out on Yoyodaro/Moescape but left cause of the increasing lack of free tokens.
glad to see people continuing a path outside of yodayo/moescape after their huge blunder.

The models for me are usually (based on ) or sometimes . I tried some more like Gemmasutra, Stheno, Nemomix unleashed but wasn't particularly impressed
Currently running through Ollama and Silly Tavern but wanted to give others a shot as the long-term memory was an issue for NTR events.
Downloaded today but I'm having issues with getting it to output both character text and scene description so probably gonna dump it soon.
Magnum V4 seems to be preferred by SillyTavern users.
also try or .


...im actually planning to make a combined LM Studio + SillyTavern in one desktop app. you can run your local LM, and chat in the same interface. it should also be simplified, and interface like discord, unlike the SillyTavern mess of a UI.
 

dreadread

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...im actually planning to make a combined LM Studio + SillyTavern in one desktop app. you can run your local LM, and chat in the same interface. it should also be simplified, and interface like discord, unlike the SillyTavern mess of a UI.
A few out there already. But I don't trust any of them really. For example:


Don't want my messed up NTR fantasies leaked by some closed source app that's posting to god knows where.

More power to you if you can make it open source
 

melantha

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A few out there already. But I don't trust any of them really. For example:


Don't want my messed up NTR fantasies leaked by some closed source app that's posting to god knows where.

More power to you if you can make it open source
this one looks good, though it seems much less powerful than sillytavern.
but the general idea is pretty much the same. it takes the configuration out of the user's hands, especially the models.

i saw an article saying deepseek R1 1.5B beats gpts, so i want to try it out.
if it works well in RP, this pretty much mitigates the issue of hardware, as it should only need 1.12gb VRAM or RAM.
running local models will be very encticing as time goes by

i love open-source, but the issue is that any company can just clone and sell it as their own.
 

LordFrz

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I thought cctv was some jank crap too, I will have to give it a go then. thx for vpn reminder.
Nvm, it is jank crap. What a snooze fest. Maybe it gets better after you play the stupid powerpoint mini game 100x and place all the camera etc, but im not doing that for some bad netorase content. Oh well, just not for me.
 

crnisl

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You guys have the Lune Team Bitters VN collections? And why isn't anybody at least MTL-ing them?
There are MTL versions available online, and you can find the links on VNDB.

For instance, I recently attempted to read , but the machine translation from 2022 was quite poor. Hopefully, someone will update it using modern AI tools..
 

LordFrz

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this one looks good, though it seems much less powerful than sillytavern.
but the general idea is pretty much the same. it takes the configuration out of the user's hands, especially the models.

i saw an article saying deepseek R1 1.5B beats gpts, so i want to try it out.
if it works well in RP, this pretty much mitigates the issue of hardware, as it should only need 1.12gb VRAM or RAM.
running local models will be very encticing as time goes by

i love open-source, but the issue is that any company can just clone and sell it as their own.
Deepseek looks neat, albeit with the limitations of it being trained on CCP approved data sets. But it shows that good models are becoming smaller and more able to be ran locally for full customizations.
 

Something548

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Anyone tried the demo of Priest game (Nebel dev) can give me some first impression? Nebel is the only game i replay and one of my favorite, is this will be better or at least close to it?
I played up to the Lawrence update, I really like the CG which I feel is better than Nebel geisterjager. BBQ Lover said that this game aims to remove the amount of RNG involved in getting scenes (personally I liked that aspect of Nebel) because a lot of complaints were about that.

Random points without organisation
1)The random events were quite limited and I couldn't proc all the scenes that were inside the recollection room.
2)It felt less grindy as well because you don't level up from fighting enemies, you level up by doing training and levelling your equipment.
3)One of the biggest differences between this and Nebel is that you aren't able to stop the scenes. You don't find the heroine in the midst of doing the deed, only the evidence of it having happened. Which you then use alchemy to see what happened. (I prefer having to search for her and stop things from happening like in Nebel)

I don't intend to play any more trial versions and will wait for full release, but I'm quite hopeful about the development.
 

zebucetiva

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Nvm, it is jank crap. What a snooze fest. Maybe it gets better after you play the stupid powerpoint mini game 100x and place all the camera etc, but im not doing that for some bad netorase content. Oh well, just not for me.
well my friend, with some 5 clicks you can have the infinite money cheat. it is one of those kind of games that cheats are mandatory for a smooth gameplay.
 

Zycr

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I played up to the Lawrence update, I really like the CG which I feel is better than Nebel geisterjager. BBQ Lover said that this game aims to remove the amount of RNG involved in getting scenes (personally I liked that aspect of Nebel) because a lot of complaints were about that.

Random points without organisation
1)The random events were quite limited and I couldn't proc all the scenes that were inside the recollection room.
2)It felt less grindy as well because you don't level up from fighting enemies, you level up by doing training and levelling your equipment.
3)One of the biggest differences between this and Nebel is that you aren't able to stop the scenes. You don't find the heroine in the midst of doing the deed, only the evidence of it having happened. Which you then use alchemy to see what happened. (I prefer having to search for her and stop things from happening like in Nebel)

I don't intend to play any more trial versions and will wait for full release, but I'm quite hopeful about the development.
I only played a bit like 2nd demo or something and remember being annoyed that the girl could be NTR by multiple characters. Is Lawrence like the main NTR guy or something? Because I'm so done with NTR game that just feel like more prostitution game than NTR by one guy only.
 
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