Recommending NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development

[Astralfan]

Eww, no thanks

Eww to you aswell

 

[Astralfan]

For the longest time, I've been waiting for an NTR game which has: 1: Good character design 2: Art that suits the dark themes of NTR and 3: GOOD WRITING.

I figured, I'd make my own with the help of AI. Now, I've spent months figuring out the process, trying out different styles and the biggest problem for me was that EVERYTHING looked painfully 'AI'. With my recent breakthroughs, I have finally figured out the style for it. I have been studying and practicing how to write good dialogue, plot, chemistry etc. I didn’t want to compromise at all on careful, detailed writing where every dialogue is carefully thought out.

Now, about the game. You can keep up with the progress of the game HERE <---

Title: Aperture
Platform: Ren’Py (mostly linear story with flavor choices)

Genre: Slice-of-life, Netorare, blackmail, corruption, coercion, voyeurism, social media, drama.

Game features: Immersive Male POV scenarios, stylized presentation, immersive audio (especially for sexual scenes), perverted kinks and themes.

Plot: You play as Sasaki Keita, a high-school student who’s a wisecrack with a good heart, with no filter. His strong sense of justice kicked him out of his previous school. You are transferred to ‘Hoshino Academy of Excellence’. A prestigious prep school which prioritizes academics and sports with little regard to arts and craft. You (literally) run into Tomoya Rin, the president of the photography club, on your first day to school and effectively break her camera. As atonement, you help her in her photography excursions to help her win competitions for her club as it’s the only way she keeps the club afloat.

Characters:

Female Main Character:
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Side character:
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Side character:
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Now, you must be wondering: How is this an NTR game?
Well, every good NTR story must have an equally good romance plot. Don’t worry, the romance plot won’t be too long and the story will delve right into the dark themes of this story.

The NTR: It will be a Mystery NTR story from the perspective of Keita (the player). The plot will revolve around Daizo, the Principal of Hoshino Academy. A typical Ugly Bastard. He’s crafty, manipulative and cunning. I won’t spoil much but the themes involve blackmail, coercion, slow corruption, a heavy focus on sexual harassment and increasing anxiety for you, the player.

Kinks: Now I have particular tastes and I won’t be holding back on them. I’ll just list what’s to come:

Kissing, oral sex, irrumatio, saliva play, excessive semen, gokkun, exhibitionism, voyeurism, used condom exposition (my favorite), outfit corruption, and way more.

There will be plenty of scenes where you will get OBVIOUS hints as to what’s going on with Rin (and other characters) through looking into peepholes, social media, adult websites and blog posts, phone calling, messaging and subliminal hints in the dialogue. Keita will mostly be oblivious to Rin’s predicament.

Additionally, the player will also get an option to view the full scenes from Rin’s perspective. (I still haven’t decided how to implement that so feel free to give me ideas.)

About the release: Probably the most important question. I have laid out my groundwork and pre-production with the sprites, backgrounds, music and my skills to code this thing. I have a working demo already. I plan to release it this May. I'm attaching a couple of shots from the game to showcase the art style. (the scenes are subjected to change).

Final words: I’m a solo dev figuring all of this out on my own. Feel free to reach out to me if you wanna help or give me ideas. I’m a nice dude/dudette.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,
Vonsatia

Principal Daizo in his office:
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Rin sitting in her class:
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Rin taking pictures:
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Am I the only one who apart from all the things you mentioned, also likes the plot where the guy who corrupts the ladies also shares them for good group sessions? Exposes them not just for himself but for the public? *ahem* Maybe i have gone to the other side a bit too much...

 

[Cunt Hunter69]

Eww to you aswell

If hating that makes me eww then I'll happily be eww

 

[Astralfan]

If hating that makes me eww then I'll happily be eww

Fair enough.

 

[melantha]

If hating that makes me eww then I'll happily be eww

would love to know what you didnt like about it?
was it the character design? others said they look uhm, young.

 

[Cunt Hunter69]

would love to know what you didnt like about it?
was it the character design? others said they look uhm, young.

If you are aware then you know what you are doing ‍

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Am I the only one who apart from all the things you mentioned, also likes the plot where the guy who corrupts the ladies also shares them for good group sessions? Exposes them not just for himself but for the public? *ahem* Maybe i have gone to the other side a bit too much...

Personally I fucking hate that in NTR, immediate turn off. If the bull is sharing with his friends/randoms/anyone then he is just a NTS cuck too.

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Eww, no thanks

Nah hot, yes please. No pixels were harmed in the creation of those images.

 

[LordFrz]

Personally I fucking hate that in NTR, immediate turn off. If the bull is sharing with his friends/randoms/anyone then he is just a NTS cuck too.

Yea, good NTR turns to shit when the guy starts sharing with others imo.

 

[LordFrz]

Honestly, you make an interesting point. I'm still a bit lax about the blackmail. At least, I don't want it to be super shallow. But I enjoy the process of the heroine not particularly enjoying what she's doing at first but slowly tolerating the guy and his antics more as she gets more corrupted.

Maybe instead of it being a straight up blackmail, it could be some sort of a "deal" with mutual benefits (but the Principal has ulterior motives). I'm open to a conversation

I would have to agree with some of the others. While I am not a fan of blackmail or making a "deal" to do sexy stuff. I would stick to your guns with what you are thinking. Write a story you will like before anything else. Once you start changing things to meet the needs of people complaining, you run down a rabbit hole of people trying to alter the story to fit their specific fetish.

When it comes to the story, go with what you are feeling and what you like. The feedback that you should listen to and make changes to should be the actual gameplay mechanics. Or if the pacing feels off. Not specific story lines.

Ive seen too many devs fall into that trap and just make a mess of the story trying to please people. You would be better off just writing what you want and finding an audience that likes that story type. They will give better feedback that aligns with your views on NTR.

As for that part about slowly tolerating sexual harassment, I am definitely a fan of that. Like teh guy grabs her ass everyday, and over time you see her stop resisting it and begin to like and expect it etc. Like as a barometer of how far the corruption has come.

 

[ThatGuy_Shaggy]

Personally I fucking hate that in NTR, immediate turn off. If the bull is sharing with his friends/randoms/anyone then he is just a NTS cuck too.

Depends on how it's implemented to me. Most of the time I normally don't like it too, but I vaguely remember a few times where I enjoyed a bit of sharing by the bull.

 

[melantha]

depends, if it's NTS, then doesn't that mean what the heroine does is always with the consent of protagonist?

so the bull sharing the fmc to other people, she won't do it unless protag has consent
otherwise, that would be straight up NTR. "wait i never allowed you to get gangbaged" or something

so bull sharing the fmc = protag sharing fmc to bull friends
only during NTS since protag needs to give consent

 

[Ivriktwo]

Am I the only one who apart from all the things you mentioned, also likes the plot where the guy who corrupts the ladies also shares them for good group sessions? Exposes them not just for himself but for the public? *ahem* Maybe i have gone to the other side a bit too much...

Nah honesty i do not like that at all. if anythin i prefer when after taking the heroine the guy uses her to get the women who trust the heroine like her sister or best friend. seeing other men with the heroine just feels wrong. like eating a nice plate of pasta and sharing it with others.... for me it is just weird and repulsive. maybe it is also because by instinct i fear the diseases that become common if a lot of people exchange fluids

 

[monsterartisan]

We have come full circle

Vanilla fans hating NTR or anything non-monogamous because of the "sharing"
NTR fans hating the premise of the bull prostituting or putting the heroine in a gangbang because of the "sharing"

Sorry, I just found it funny how very similar this is.

Though, in my opinion. It should be a lot more disrespectful and degrading when the bull doesn't care about the "toy" he stole in the first place.
I do, however, understand that people have different tastes on this matter. People do seek for different things in this genre after all.

 

[Officer Doofy]

Am I the only one who apart from all the things you mentioned, also likes the plot where the guy who corrupts the ladies also shares them for good group sessions? Exposes them not just for himself but for the public? *ahem* Maybe i have gone to the other side a bit too much...

I like it. To me that is the natural progression of Netorare. Once the guy has had his way with the girl she looses the appeal. Its all about the hunt. The girl also goes through a change, she learns to love depravity and its only natural she would start to seek out more depraved acts that can fulfill her newfound desires.

 

[SlidingSubject]

We have come full circle

Vanilla fans hating NTR or anything non-monogamous because of the "sharing"
NTR fans hating the premise of the bull prostituting or putting the heroine in a gangbang because of the "sharing"

Sorry, I just found it funny how very similar this is.

Though, in my opinion. It should be a lot more disrespectful and degrading when the bull doesn't care about the "toy" he stole in the first place.
I do, however, understand that people have different tastes on this matter. People do seek for different things in this genre after all.

I think it's because of the same thing, self-inserting. Only that most vanilla fanboys who come to hate NTR are self-inserting as the good guy, while the segment of NTR fans who don't like prostitution self-insert as the bull, and have a "mine" mentality. At most, the latter would accept that the bull "shows off" the girl, but never that he shares it. Not that I'm condemning the latter, I think that if you want to appease that audience, you could lean on the "showing off" thing as part of the degradation aspect and try to spin it as it being as bad as sharing without actually saying it.

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Have definitely thought about how ironic my feelings on the bull sharing is, to me it makes him a cuck also. NTR/NTS to me is as much about the jealousy towards the bull as it is the corruption of the FMC+others, so if the bull is sharing then that kills his presence and ruins part of the jealously, since other dudes are fucking "his" women, he's just like the MC to me at that point.

I think it's because of the same thing, self-inserting. Only that most vanilla fanboys who come to hate NTR are self-inserting as the good guy, while the segment of NTR fans who don't like prostitution self-insert as the bull, and have a "mine" mentality. At most, the latter would accept that the bull "shows off" the girl, but never that he shares it. Not that I'm condemning the latter, I think that if you want to appease that audience, you could lean on the "showing off" thing as part of the degradation aspect and try to spin it as it being as bad as sharing without actually saying it.

That is the thing though, I only self insert as the cuck, but yeah all that jealously and sometimes submissiveness is held up by the bull being unquestionably alpha/the winner.

 

[melantha]

Have definitely thought about how ironic my feelings on the bull sharing is, to me it makes him a cuck also. NTR/NTS to me is as much about the jealousy towards the bull as it is the corruption of the FMC+others, so if the bull is sharing then that kills his presence and ruins part of the jealously, since other dudes are fucking "his" women, he's just like the MC to me at that point.

That is the thing though, I only self insert as the cuck, but yeah all that jealously and sometimes submissiveness is held up by the bull being unquestionably alpha/the winner.

let me see if I get this right
you're more of the emotional jealousy than the physcial aspect of it.

you're afraid she's going to get 'stolen' as a partner, and she'll fall in love with the bull.
the fact she's doing it with other men reduces the idea of her falling completely for the bull
so in turn, jealousy goes down, ntr goes down

so it's about the emotional relationship, rather than "who gets to fuck her, damn im jealous"

 

[EnTeeArrr]

let me see if I get this right
you're more of the emotional jealousy than the physcial aspect of it.

you're afraid she's going to get 'stolen' as a partner, and she'll fall in love with the bull.
the fact she's doing it with other men reduces the idea of her falling completely for the bull
so in turn, jealousy goes down, ntr goes down

so it's about the emotional relationship, rather than "who gets to fuck her, damn im jealous"

Close, best is when the FMC falls in love with the bulls cock only, the bull shouldn't have feelings, all he wants is a harem of every woman in the MC's life. I actually like the FMC staying in love emotionally with the MC and always being mostly sympathetic and sweet to the MC, or at most submissive in the face of the Bull only humiliating the MC, if its not hidden NTR at that point. I also hate the MC getting any action at all, but that is a different topic.

At the end of the day though its all the writing and surprise, good writing can make anything work. I have tried to commission stories from my own ideas and it's never as good as discovering when an unknown story goes.

 

[kotfpp]

I think it's because of the same thing, self-inserting. Only that most vanilla fanboys who come to hate NTR are self-inserting as the good guy, while the segment of NTR fans who don't like prostitution self-insert as the bull, and have a "mine" mentality. At most, the latter would accept that the bull "shows off" the girl, but never that he shares it. Not that I'm condemning the latter, I think that if you want to appease that audience, you could lean on the "showing off" thing as part of the degradation aspect and try to spin it as it being as bad as sharing without actually saying it.

The self insertion projection and discussion is very tired and a bunch of people always come in to say that this isn't the case. Not liking sharing has nothing to do with it, corruption is not inherent to or necessary for NTR and it isn't strange that some people don't like it when it gets past a point.