Recommending NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development

[sebabol]

i am looking for game like nekontr can someone help pls

 

[Obstkuchen]

It's not edgy dw, tolerance and subjectivity are actually a good point. Although, I think that netorare in general can be amplified when you take enough time to develop characters and their relationships before you throw them into chaos. That will definitely sting more to a great deal of people. Taking something that grew on them and picking it apart piece by piece.

I should have been more active here earlier, because these conversations teach me a lot about how people view and experience NTR, and they make me realize how different my own interaction with the genre actually is.

Your point about developing relationships makes complete sense from a logical perspective, but I’ve never really felt that way when reading or engaging with NTR, since I almost always self-insert.
Interacting also opened my eyes to the fact that people see the types of characters who can be NTR’ed very differently. I understand now that many people believe pretty much anyone can be NTR’ed: good people, worthy people, successful people.

Meanwhile, I’ve always viewed characters who get NTR’ed as losers or failures by default. Because of that, I see the need for a deeply developed or fleshed-out “fall” in a completely different way, since in my mind it isn’t even really necessary.

 

[boulbi78]

Brother, this thread is never where I'd expected to find out Limewire still exists

Nvm, it all makes sense

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Couldn't attach the files, so i made a pdf, and i couldn't attach the pdf, so i just searched for an upload on web, and ended up using limewire xD. U can't access the files ? it will only be available for a week. So just ask me for files. I found more ideas/solutions. thanks to everyone !

 

[NTR unavoidable!]

I should have been more active here earlier, because these conversations teach me a lot about how people view and experience NTR, and they make me realize how different my own interaction with the genre actually is.

I wasn't that active either but I find people here interesting.

Before ntr I mostly played *cough* rapey games but they seem to focus on female enjoyment lately and there is not much distress to be seen. I got into ntr last year but I was always a voyeur deep down feeding on emotions I imagine characters feel so it's not like it's entirely new to me. Ntr fleshed out 'blind' humiliation for me tho, which is kinda new and intense. Fear, anticipation and humiliation are a powerful cocktail and I also managed to get used to female guilty pleasures. Submissiveness and masochism. Bulls getting to enjoy what they worked for is another appealing aspect if their pleasure is portrayed well and cuck is deprived.

A lot to unpack when it comes to me I would say because I don't think I ever self insert. Even when I chat with ai I'm making up a character with random persona.

I'm like a sponge feeding on intensity but sometimes, rarely, it's too much to take in and I feel too bad for the 'victims', both males and females regardless of them being fictional.

It's like there is a certain dosage, a recipe of misery that gets me excited but if it pushes certain buttons I get overloaded. I'm always seeking that perfect balance that won't make me too uncomfortable.

 

[boulbi78]

I wasn't that active either but I find people here interesting.

Before ntr I mostly played *cough* rapey games but they seem to focus on female enjoyment lately and there is not much distress to be seen. I got into ntr last year but I was always a voyeur deep down feeding on emotions I imagine characters feel so it's not like it's entirely new to me. Ntr fleshed out 'blind' humiliation for me tho, which is kinda new and intense. Fear, anticipation and humiliation are a powerful cocktail and I also managed to get used to female guilty pleasures. Submissiveness and masochism. Bulls getting to enjoy what they worked for is another appealing aspect if their pleasure is portrayed well and cuck is deprived.

A lot to unpack when it comes to me I would say because I don't think I ever self insert. Even when I chat with ai I'm making up a character with random persona.

I'm like a sponge feeding on intensity but sometimes, rarely, it's too much to take in and I feel too bad for the 'victims', both males and females regardless of them being fictional.

It's like there is a certain dosage, a recipe of misery that gets me excited but if it pushes certain buttons I get overloaded. I'm always seeking that perfect balance that won't make me too uncomfortable.

This is interesting, because it seems that's i also dislike when it goes 2 far. I enjoyed Turning the page, but i started to feel bad for the MC at some point. And i think this is exactly the limit you're talking about. Balance between those 2 feelings seems to be hard to maintain at some point i think.

 

[Obstkuchen]

I wasn't that active either but I find people here interesting.

Before ntr I mostly played *cough* rapey games but they seem to focus on female enjoyment lately and there is not much distress to be seen. I got into ntr last year but I was always a voyeur deep down feeding on emotions I imagine characters feel so it's not like it's entirely new to me. Ntr fleshed out 'blind' humiliation for me tho, which is kinda new and intense. Fear, anticipation and humiliation are a powerful cocktail and I also managed to get used to female guilty pleasures. Submissiveness and masochism. Bulls getting to enjoy what they worked for is another appealing aspect if their pleasure is portrayed well and cuck is deprived.

A lot to unpack when it comes to me I would say because I don't think I ever self insert. Even when I chat with ai I'm making up a character with random persona.

I'm like a sponge feeding on intensity but sometimes, rarely, it's too much to take in and I feel too bad for the 'victims', both males and females regardless of them being fictional.

It's like there is a certain dosage, a recipe of misery that gets me excited but if it pushes certain buttons I get overloaded. I'm always seeking that perfect balance that won't make me too uncomfortable.

I am like a black hole in that regard. I can never get enough. It can never be enough. It needs to be darker, more depraved, more hurtful and so on and on.

Sometimes I think the best game for me would basically be something with that kind of hopeless tone (and yes, the way I phrase it here is obviously just a joke), something like just a black screen with white text saying:
“And then the MC died while everyone laughed at him, and everyone he loves or likes gets fucked by the bully, who made him kill himself.”

- The End

 

[Obstkuchen]

I wasn't that active either but I find people here interesting.

Before ntr I mostly played *cough* rapey games but they seem to focus on female enjoyment lately and there is not much distress to be seen. I got into ntr last year but I was always a voyeur deep down feeding on emotions I imagine characters feel so it's not like it's entirely new to me. Ntr fleshed out 'blind' humiliation for me tho, which is kinda new and intense. Fear, anticipation and humiliation are a powerful cocktail and I also managed to get used to female guilty pleasures. Submissiveness and masochism. Bulls getting to enjoy what they worked for is another appealing aspect if their pleasure is portrayed well and cuck is deprived.

A lot to unpack when it comes to me I would say because I don't think I ever self insert. Even when I chat with ai I'm making up a character with random persona.

I'm like a sponge feeding on intensity but sometimes, rarely, it's too much to take in and I feel too bad for the 'victims', both males and females regardless of them being fictional.

It's like there is a certain dosage, a recipe of misery that gets me excited but if it pushes certain buttons I get overloaded. I'm always seeking that perfect balance that won't make me too uncomfortable.

I don't want to gloss over the first part either, please share with me some of your favourite rapey games, especially if the female characters do not enjoy it and it is full of suffering. If you don't feel comfortable sharing it here, feel free to DM me. I would love to hear some recommendations.

 

[Raven's Key Games]

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[NTR unavoidable!]

This is interesting, because it seems that's i also dislike when it goes 2 far. I enjoyed Turning the page, but i started to feel bad for the MC at some point. And i think this is exactly the limit you're talking about. Balance between those 2 feelings seems to be hard to maintain at some point i think.

Another thing I realized is that certain plot devices trigger me while others don't. For example I criticised SSP for excessive 'convenient misunderstandings' that put mc in a bad light, which is true. But I went hard on that flaw particularly because it triggers me. I can swallow some ntr games whole without flinching but others I have trouble digesting no matter how much they appeal to me. It's funny how those games end up being most memorable and intense ntr wise.

I don't want to gloss over the first part either, please share with me some of your favourite rapey games, especially if the female characters do not enjoy it and it is full of suffering. If you don't feel comfortable sharing it here, feel free to DM me. I would love to hear some recommendations.

Degrees of lewdity kinda fits but it's html so not for everyone.

 

[boulbi78]

Another thing I realized is that certain plot devices trigger me while others don't. For example I criticised SSP for excessive 'convenient misunderstandings' that put mc in a bad light, which is true. But I went hard on that flaw particularly because it triggers me. I can swallow some ntr games whole without flinching but others I have trouble digesting no matter how much they appeal to me. It's funny how those games end up being most memorable and intense ntr wise.


Degrees of lewdity kinda fits but it's html so not for everyone.

Yes, sometimes this is just some "triggers". And even if it use all ur fetishes. U could dislike something which should be a game u like. Just because their's a "trigger". Put me some extra huge breasts and even if it fit 100% of my others kinks, i wont play it. Sometimes it's just that simple. And the best thing is to at least give it a try. Wasn't really fan of the idea of trying "boy hero ken", because of the arts and the MC, also his relation with FMC which was more a big sis crush. But i give it a try and it is now on my top 3.

 

[Obstkuchen]

Degrees of lewdity kinda fits but it's html so not for everyone.

I will look into it, I played some HTML games before. And please feel free to just name your favourite ones, they don't need to necessarily fit what I described.

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

Is that new NTR hypnosis, mage with the hat really that bad? I'm playing it and finding it alright, but I'm really at the very beginning, the NTR hasn't even really started yet.

 

[NTR unavoidable!]

I will look into it, I played some HTML games before. And please feel free to just name your favourite ones, they don't need to necessarily fit what I described.

Sure but I will need to recollect a bit and dig up older stuff too. I enjoyed dol as a fmc tho, worth trying.

I will pm you eventually so we don't derail this thread. Maybe not this day but tomorrow or day after. I hope you are not in a hurry lol.

 

[Leonard75]

Hi.
I create a femdom thread
https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-thread-3d-2d-games-cg-comics-dojinshi-illustrations.277328/

I share one time the link here, because some times "ntr" and femdom are close

 

[BraveOrakio]

To be honest. I am considering it too. I don't think I have a budget for an artist though

Just a word of advice, programming is hard. I am a professional software engineer so I do know quite a bit about software development. Don't know about renpy but I have experience with rpgmaker MV. And I can see the pitfalls of how an amateur can make things really complicated for themselves unless you know what your doing. Remember that these engines make things easier, but its still not necessarily easy.

 

[boulbi78]

I am somewhat seriously thinking about creating my own NTR game. I have experience in programming and software like Ren'py too, so the creation of a simple game itself isn't an issue besides the time and effort needed.
I have never created a game so having a good gameplay loop etc. might be hit or miss without experience but I think going for a management style game would be feasible.
Biggest issues are art and music, since I have exactly zero skill in both of those fields and neither the money, nor the knowledge how to hire someone to do it for me. I probably need to go for completely AI generated assets, which I am not personally against, but I also know how limiting it can end up being.

If anyone knows good ways to contact artists (especially Japanese ones) in a professional manner I would appreciate advice on the topic.
Edit: Let's Ignore the fact that I have been on this site for like 7 years and I still did not remember that we have a whole development area for questions just like this.

Well, with AI (for recently focusing into it), u are limited, but u also got a large amount of "backups". And having it getting more and more upgraded also adds more solutions. So in the end, this is just about "tastes" of what u want ur game to look in ur scenes. And for trying some differents merges/base models/loras. U can end up with ur own character/style.

 

[Obstkuchen]

Well, with AI (for recently focusing into it), u are limited, but u also got a large amount of "backups". And having it getting more and more upgraded also adds more solutions. So in the end, this is just about "tastes" of what u want ur game to look in ur scenes. And for trying some differents merges/base models/loras. U can end up with ur own character/style.

My dumbass went for a new AMD graphic card earlier this year so I am pretty much locked out of local generation for now. I had a Nividia before. In terms of characters I very much agree, there is no large difficulty in creating something at least passable with AI, but I am more or less thinking about all the other assets. Like menues, etc. which I don't know how to generate with AI if that is even possible realistically.

 

[melantha]

My dumbass went for a new AMD graphic card earlier this year so I am pretty much locked out of local generation for now. I had a Nividia before. In terms of characters I very much agree, there is no large difficulty in creating something at least passable with AI, but I am more or less thinking about all the other assets. Like menues, etc. which I don't know how to generate with AI if that is even possible realistically.

yes, UI assets are possible with AI.
it's not just for generating characters, also icons and backgrounds.

for panels, boxes, you can just use rectangular boxes with transparency and should be enough approaches to make it look decent

still, photoshop experience for be of help.

see in my interface, it's mostly the same generate icons, or character image
but presented in a way that you dont need extra "designs"

you can just focus on how you present it, not on what decorations you have to make



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edit: for loras that are sd1.5, generate with 1.5, then img2img with illustrious or the preferred model