otomegokoro

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I don't understand this part of the guide. I am at the hot springs but no option to call chiho there View attachment 2445375
its at a certain time slot. Are the uncles in the male side of the hot spring? if so then you can bring up your phone and call chiho. you can also tell whenever you have a heart notification above you when you enter the male side of the hot springs
 
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Yevaud6

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I got distracted by things falling a bit. I was going to update my walkthrough, but since someone has that last bit covered via a guide and some people are wondering the difference between censored/uncensored. I'll leave it as is till uncensor is updated. Maybe adjust a bit of the wording since the cuck bar can potentially end the game from phone texts if you aren't careful.
 

uniformless

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I've read the steam version will have some modification like the ending comics and the dev will not provide a patch to get the original content restored. I wanted to buy this game but now, I have to choose between a censored version on dlsite without any uncensor patch like it was planned initially or a modified content version on steam... I don't want to buy the game anymore if there is no way to get the original and full experience without censor and it's disappointing to have wait so long for this.

Also, I don't understand why a restoration content patch is not planned for the steam version. Many hentai games has this (see kagura games...).
 

archedio

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So, this game is not finished yet?
Is there any uncensored patch in the future for the latest version?
 

Imperator753

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Maybe I missed something because I don't really get this. They said they had to censor their images to comply with dlsite, so why wasn't an uncensored version retained for a release on sites where it would be allowed such as steam? Also, I'm reading speculation that they won't provide a restoration patch, but like why? Why not have one on your patreon?
 

otomegokoro

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Maybe I missed something because I don't really get this. They said they had to censor their images to comply with dlsite, so why wasn't an uncensored version retained for a release on sites where it would be allowed such as steam? Also, I'm reading speculation that they won't provide a restoration patch, but like why? Why not have one on your patreon?
I assume that the uncensored version was of an earlier build, ver 1.0, before it was handed out to dlsite which would mean that it would be buggy and unstable. Most of their fixes would have been done past that version which would mean that there's no uncensored version with all the fixes and added content. Pure assumptions based on ci-en posts about the uncensored patch, should be taken with a grain of salt

Correct me if im wrong but isn't the steam version uncensored? except for a few changes to the ending due to having a kid present in the ending comic

apparently the restorative patch won't be introduced because there is a risk that DLsite might see it and take actions towards it, atleast from what tiramisu has said in their ci-en post
 

uniformless

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The uncensor patch for the dlsite version will not happen. From the own dev words on their patreon. Not for any legal reasons or risk with dlsite. Just because they can't make it to work. The post on patreon :

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About the steam version, it will be uncensored. But also some content will be modified from the original version. At least the ending, for now. Maybe more changes will come. And someone asked on steam if there will be patch to restore the content and the dev answered no :

- btw,maybe we can get the DLsite ending by installing extra patches?

- thank you! I am afraid that we will not be providing that extra patch.
Source : a comment from this news on steam


There is not reason to not provide a restoration patch for the steam version. Many hentai games has this.

I stay in the position of wanting to buy the game but only if the dev find a way to fix the mess of having their supporters having to choose between censored content or modified content.

Honestly, I would feel robbed if I was a patreon supporter. The game was uncensored during alphas. Then the game got censored for dlsite but an uncensored patch was planned. And finally, there is no uncensor patch.
Today, the (paying!) supporters have no way to play the game up to date without censor!
I'm not even sure if the patreons will get a steam key to play the (future) uncensored version but even if they do, there will still the modified content.
 

Taurom

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The uncensor patch for the dlsite version will not happen. From the own dev words on their patreon. Not for any legal reasons or risk with dlsite. Just because they can't make it to work. The post on patreon :

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

About the steam version, it will be uncensored. But also some content will be modified from the original version. At least the ending, for now. Maybe more changes will come. And someone asked on steam if there will be patch to restore the content and the dev answered no :



Source : a comment from this news on steam


There is not reason to not provide a restoration patch for the steam version. Many hentai games has this.

I stay in the position of wanting to buy the game but only if the dev find a way to fix the mess of having their supporters having to choose between censored content or modified content.

Honestly, I would feel robbed if I was a patreon supporter. The game was uncensored during alphas. Then the game got censored for dlsite but an uncensored patch was planned. And finally, there is no uncensor patch.
Today, the (paying!) supporters have no way to play the game up to date without censor!
I'm not even sure if the patreons will get a steam key to play the (future) uncensored version but even if they do, there will still the modified content.
Damn, so basically this will never have an uncensored version for its unmodified content version? so patreons got scammed? yikes.
 

fotogaik

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According to the developer, dlsite demanded a censored version that cannot be uncensored (censorship is baked in). Producing two versions at the same time was too time-consuming so the dev decided to make a censored version first (because dlsite is supposedly a MUCH bigger income maker than Patreon), followed by a completely separate uncensored version.

Did patrons get scammed? I'd say no, they weren't, for the simple reason that the dev was up front about it. If they wanted the censored version, they got it. If they didn't, they should have simply canceled their patreon support. As it is, they paid for the censored version fair and square.
 

Jack73

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Damn, so basically this will never have an uncensored version for its unmodified content version? so patreons got scammed? yikes.
patreons are always exposed to scam. For example, the Devs who abandon projects and close down scam the supporters who have invested in the project. In this case, if Tiramisu started and proposed the game in an uncensored version, and now decides to do it in a censored version, he commits a scam towards his supporters because he is making something that is the opposite of what was expected. If he is more interested in having the revenues of dlsite, he had to communicate the project change to his patreons, giving those who were not interested in the "new project" the possibility of withdrawing. You can't ask for financial support to build a motorcycle and then build a bicycle. it's scam. unfortunately by accepting to become patreon there are no guarantees of seeing the finished product, nor of being reimbursed if the creator does not complete the project. patreon is simple, put your money and....pray.
 

uniformless

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I don't think it's a scam or the dev had bad intentions. But I think they poorly managed the situation about censorship.

They knew from the very beginning dlsite version would require to be censored.

But they didn't check or make sure they could provide a patch to remove the censorship before making it. According the post on Patreon, it seems they only focused on trying to uncensor it at the very last moment and got stuck because of technical difficulties with it.

And instead of providing a full uncensored version to their patreons, they ask them to wait for the steam version which will have modified content from the original game!

Dev seem to think it's good enough like this but it's not. They are the dev, they have all the assets, it's not acceptable to not find a way to distribute the complete experience to those who trusted and invested in them. Even if it's only one modified scene, it's not an acceptable situation because they create it themselves.

And once again, it's still unsure if the patreons will get a steam key or if they'll need to buy the game to get an uncensored (but modified) version.
 

uniformless

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According to the developer, dlsite demanded a censored version that cannot be uncensored (censorship is baked in). Producing two versions at the same time was too time-consuming so the dev decided to make a censored version first (because dlsite is supposedly a MUCH bigger income maker than Patreon), followed by a completely separate uncensored version.

Did patrons get scammed? I'd say no, they weren't, for the simple reason that the dev was up front about it. If they wanted the censored version, they got it. If they didn't, they should have simply canceled their patreon support. As it is, they paid for the censored version fair and square.
The uncensored patch was planned. It was cancelled at the very last moment because the dev were finally not able to make it. I think their mistake was to not checking correctly in time if the patch was doable. It should have been higher in the list instead of being "we'll see after releasing the game"
 
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