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Demoness_Kiss

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You know what type of NTR-games we need? Games where the cuck is an active asshole, who deserves nothing but misery and he gets it. Basically a hallmark movie where the "evil boyfriend of the female MC is actually evil and not just very busy working"
 

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You know what type of NTR-games we need? Games where the cuck is an active asshole, who deserves nothing but misery and he gets it. Basically a hallmark movie where the "evil boyfriend of the female MC is actually evil and not just very busy working"
These boyfriends and husbands are usally in Netori stories. You know the ones where you play as the one who is stealing girls.
 

Cherubin25

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Were the two POVs retired? I have two savefiles, one for Male only POV and one for both POVs. And yet it seemed like in the latest Update there was no POV of the GF. No inner thoughts or anything.
 

NTR.ai

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Were the two POVs retired? I have two savefiles, one for Male only POV and one for both POVs. And yet it seemed like in the latest Update there was no POV of the GF. No inner thoughts or anything.
Because they all stay together in v0.6.0 and I don't want to suddenly use another way to present FMC thoughts by putting them in MC POV. And if I just still add FMC POV, there will be a lot of redundant dialogues and narration.
 
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Cherubin25

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Because they all stay together in v0.6.0 and I don't want to suddenly use another way to present FMC thoughts by putting them in MC POV. And if I just still add FMC POV, there will be a lot of redundant dialogues and narration.
Yeah, somewhat understandable. But inner thoughts of the FMC would still make sense given her situation. And if someone does not want to read everything twice, they could skip and would only read the new dialogue (or monologue in this case). And to be honest, there is A LOT of repeat in the dialogue, I guess it was written a few dozen times that the MC sees that his girlfriend is at ease or relaxing. And this does not really add much value to repeat the same things over and over again.
 
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O1duvai

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More and more often I am blown away by local comments. On forum in general. Refined connoisseurs of extraordinary stories and experts in sexology/psychology gathered together. It's almost laughable.

Dudes, the core of ALL local stories, the cornerstone for which these “plots are written” is sex. Scenes with fucking. Sometimes all this is written well, sometimes not so much.
Here specifically, the trick is clearly not in the plot, but in the animations, which are quite good for the “budget”. Calm down, you unfortunates. Write, at least, something in the spirit of “I WOULD do/write this way,” or “It WOULD be logical.” And not “ahahah - stupid cuckold”. At worst, read the rules, there is a clause about this.
 

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Might as well throw my torch into the fire. I don't particularly care it's goofy or illogical. But if there is one thing I am genuinely hoping doesn't happen is that she ends up falling in love with the other dude. I don't mean that she stops fucking. Hell get her pregnant for all I care. I just mean that she doesn't catch feelings.

Now before the NTR Purists Brigade comes schreeching at me, let me explain my POV. If she catches feelings... that's that. Game over. It's hardly betrayal anymore at that point. The relationship is purely there as decoration. It's much more fun if she continues saying she loves the oblivious fool (both to him and more importantly, To Herself) but continues regularly getting her back blown out by Douchebag McBig Dick behind his back anyway. It's twisted. It's funny. It's better. That's all.
 

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if it's all just about sex, then, based on your idea, what's the point of writing the plot, you just make sexual drawings and that's it, right, you say that it's useless to complain about the plot, if it's just sex, then, I say, the devs, what do they waste time writing speeches etc, anyway, just the scenes are enough, and everyone is happy, it seems fair to me, but also fair, that in NTR we players always find ourselves with an idiotic and moron Mc, who like an idiot doesn't realize he's a cuckold, is this worse than only making sex scenes. hhahahaha
Honestly at this stage I'd like to see a Dev mix it up and not have the MC get ntr'd because he's a moron, with a small dick who blows his load from a gentle breeze in his general direction

Ntr doesn't bother me it's the lack of general variety in portrayals of the MC , like give him an average dick , be average in bed , and make him a massive cunt who has no time or care for his wife or partner or something like that , at least with that it would be something different to see while still achieving the same NTR results
 
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btrain33

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Not sure what this dev is talking about but there are way too many NTR games out there. Especially on this site. This site needs more anti-NTR uploaders. The pro-NTR bias is strong here.
 

jaques

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I will include NTS and Happy ending in addition to NTRs. But happy ending is not really happy just FMC resists the corruption in the end.
Will probably play all the routes (porn is porn). Will the happy end include an iron bar to the face for the "friend" or is it the run of the mill FMC getting her freak on and then goes back to the oblivious beta cuck?

People complain here about vanilla being boring (cookiecutter vanilla gets old, no debate there). But NTR is just as boring as it is stereotyped to hell and back with the exact same beats every time. A MC that is able to fight back raises the stakes for all, no?
 

O1duvai

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if it's all just about sex, then, based on your idea, what's the point of writing the plot
Yes, I have no idea at all. This is a good question and worth asking some developers. Ocean, for example.
but also fair, that in NTR we players always find ourselves with an idiotic and moron Mc, who like an idiot doesn't realize he's a cuckold
You will be surprised, but such people exist outside the window.

I'm talking about presentation. Which, among other things, is regulated by the forum rules. You can say “that would be more logical/better”, rather than running around yelling that “ahaha, the character is an idiot.” After all, almost all games here are created by solo dev's or in very small groups. Maybe SOME of the authors want the character to look like this. Maybe they don’t write novels their entire lives.
 
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Yes, I have no idea at all. This is a good question and worth asking some developers. Ocean, for example.
Because thats boring. Porn exists for that already and the fact that an audience emerged for visual NOVELS as opposed to the mindless fucking that already existed for decades, speaks for itself. It's rather obvious.
 

NTR.ai

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Yes, I have no idea at all. This is a good question and worth asking some developers. Ocean, for example.

You will be surprised, but such people exist outside the window.

I'm talking about presentation. Which, among other things, is regulated by the forum rules. You can say “that would be more logical/better”, rather than running around yelling that “ahaha, the character is an idiot.” After all, almost all games here are created by solo dev's or in very small groups. Maybe SOME of the authors want the character to look like this. Maybe they don’t write novels their entire lives.
I actually partially agree with what you said in your previous post — “the trick is clearly not in the plot, but in the animations.”
That’s true, especially when compared to other heavy text-based AVNs.
But I wouldn’t go as far as to say “no plot is better than plot.”

That said, I’m not even sure if you were just being polite and didn’t want to respond too harshly to some dumb hypothetical.
Personally, I don’t think there’s any need to explain anything to people like that — they don’t get it.
It’s clear that your point was that this game focuses more on other aspects,
but then they take it and try to escalate into this ridiculous idea of “then why not just remove everything else altogether,”
as if that’s some clever argument — when it clearly isn’t.

And honestly, don’t expect any meaningful suggestions from them.
They’re not capable of constructive criticism.
Even if you agree with other thoughtful feedback,
they will twist it into “oh, so you only want people who praise you.”

Their comments are usually vague and logically weak.
If you check their past posts, their logic often contradicts itself.
They’ll say one thing just to oppose your point,
then bring up an entirely different argument that contradicts what they said before.

This person is already the third one who keeps complaining but still won’t stop following.
The first two seem to have been banned.

I’ve taken time in the past to reply thoughtfully to people like this,
but unfortunately, their posts were reported and deleted —
and mine got deleted along with them.

Also, here’s another thing I noticed that shows their lack of logic:
they even suspect I’m the one who reported them.
But seriously,
if I were going to report them, why would I bother replying in such detail in the first place?
 

NTR.ai

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Will probably play all the routes (porn is porn). Will the happy end include an iron bar to the face for the "friend" or is it the run of the mill FMC getting her freak on and then goes back to the oblivious beta cuck?

People complain here about vanilla being boring (cookiecutter vanilla gets old, no debate there). But NTR is just as boring as it is stereotyped to hell and back with the exact same beats every time. A MC that is able to fight back raises the stakes for all, no?
I wouldn't say there is literally an iron bar to his face but Happy Ending will only happen after FMC confession or MC caught on them.
 

NTR.ai

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Honestly at this stage I'd like to see a Dev mix it up and not have the MC get ntr'd because he's a moron, with a small dick who blows his load from a gentle breeze in his general direction

Ntr doesn't bother me it's the lack of general variety in portrayals of the MC , like give him an average dick , be average in bed , and make him a massive cunt who has no time or care for his wife or partner or something like that , at least with that it would be something different to see while still achieving the same NTR results
To be honest, describing him as “a massive cunt who has no time or care for his wife or partner or something like that” does work—but it creates another issue. It makes the NTR feel completely justified. And by “justified,” I mean it turns into a situation where no one would reasonably want to stay with someone like that. As a result, the tension and emotional weight of the FMC being physically corrupted drops dramatically.
Basically, "WindDX " already said pretty much what I think about NTR.
 

NTR.ai

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Yeah, somewhat understandable. But inner thoughts of the FMC would still make sense given her situation. And if someone does not want to read everything twice, they could skip and would only read the new dialogue (or monologue in this case). And to be honest, there is A LOT of repeat in the dialogue, I guess it was written a few dozen times that the MC sees that his girlfriend is at ease or relaxing. And this does not really add much value to repeat the same things over and over again.
That’s definitely one way to approach it, but I personally feel that revealing the female lead’s inner thoughts retrospectively—through reflection in the next chapter—helps avoid the issue I mentioned earlier.

As for the repetitive dialogue you brought up, I think we’ve all experienced something similar in real life: that cycle of doubt, followed by repeatedly looking for reasons to comfort ourselves and dismiss those doubts. That’s the kind of emotional state I was trying to portray.

But I admit, maybe the wording and expression lacked freshness, and weren’t as polished or impactful as they could be. For that, I apologize.
 
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V7.1 is out, but only for $10 and up patreons. In 2 days the $3.5 patreons can play it. The dev does a public release 2 weeks after the patreon release and someone will post it here. He is already working on v8
Good to know, it somehow didn't appear in my feed, I wasn't aware of that.
 

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Surprisingly, there are traditional Chinese subtitles, I want to support this game, but since I don't want to use Patreon, if there is on STEAM then I will definitely buy it.:)
 
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