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Would be nice for a revenge line in this. All of these stories tend to this same concept of "MC deserves to be cucked and humiliated" or the sharing line (approving cuck), but few deal with the reaction and progression of a story of someone who was betrayed and isn't a pathetic cuck moron.
Maybe Alan bides his time for revenge? Maybe he gives his love every chance to break off and be loyal in the NTR route and as she does not, sets up a dastardly revenge scheme for all involved?
How about complete financial ruin, public humiliation (recording and releasing), alienation and shaming, maybe even physical means (causing impotence on Blake, or maybe a resolution that ends with all the sex addict's having their sexual nerve areas numbed so that there is no sexual pleasure, leaving only "emotional" romantic status as anything important... to which the MC rejects the FMC?
Imagine her running back after Blake can't get it up and likely harms her in the process because of his shame only to find Alan telling her he doesn't have any room in his heart for a disgusting lying and cheating whore as he kicks her out on her ass while he watches her and those involved worlds implode.
Now that is the type of option I would like to see.
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Akeraux
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This a typical NTR game according to dev nothing like that is gonna happen.
I'm fascinated at the people who go this far into a story they're not into, purely on the hope that it will do a 180 at the end.
Like, I'm not into scat. I can't fathom the notion of leaving comments on scat games 12 updates in, suggesting it should end with the girl realizing she should use the potty.
Same, lol. I dont follow the thread that closely, but I was also taken off guard by the suggestions that there should be a revenge arc. Like, this is an NTR-game (and a pretty stereotypical), someone is cucked in this game. There is no need for a revenge arc.
But I guess there are people out there who might hope that a Vanilla-Route is added at some point with the addition of Harem with Daphne and Blakes girlfriend who cheats on him with MC.
Well, there are layers of NTR though. Not everyone likes the MC is a cuck and a loser scenario. The slow burn of finding out, and eventual reveal of betrayal followed by a resolution that find actual meaning can be quite entertaining. Some NTR games achieve this even with a mortifying reveal and humiliation by allowing the MC to find some means of remedy, conclusion, or even victory that isn't simply being cucked and watching his girl ride off into the sunset for a happily ever after with the antagonist.
To be fair, they are few and far between as most seem to be a process of the MC being a complete clueless moron who apparently deserves his true love to not only betray him, but to humiliate him to the extreme as if they never had any concept of love in the first place.
Though I guess there are those who like the simplistic unrealistic stories that are full of shock, humiliation, and illogic.
You never know what type of story you will get with NTR so it isn't like this is an issue of someone choosing something they absolutely hate purposefully. NTR is simply about having the love stolen and what happens with that depends... It is just that the whole cuck/loser scenario with no resolution and a complete sink to demoralization seems to be the theme for a lot of them.
NTR is about someone stealing a love, that is what Netorare means. If you look at the Japanese games there are many that have revenge paths, or various other resolutions. It is is more of a Western type concept of complete moral devastation, MC is a loser cuck, etc...
I enjoy the NTR build and reveal for the stories of finding out, the slow burn etc... (if properly written where the MC isn't an idiot), dealing with the fallout, the emotional dialogues, etc... (see the game Love & Jealousy for a good example).
I have noticed a lot of these games where people are demanding harem paths, love and loyalty paths, etc...
Honestly, not what I am interested in. I want her to cheat (I don't want to be able to stop it), I want it to be a standard slow burn NTR game with lots of dialogue build up, the MC exploring his thoughts and feelings on the issues (ie possible betrayal), him confronting in ways to see if she will reveal the truth, the eventual reveal, and then the pressing of her to face the decisions she has made, the reasoning, the morality of it... (ie an NTR game that actually deals with the emotions of the rollercoaster in the dialogue and choices).
I have played a couple that have dealt with various paths in such endings, but a lot of them even when they claim a different ending, it is really just the same "MC is a loser cuck" expressed in various flavors.
I guess the point is an actual story, which is why you never know on this games until you play through them.
At the end of the day though, it doesn't matter, it was just discussion, not some demand or expectation.
That's a good point, and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I guess the clueless MC is so standard and there are so many people who do genuinely seem to both hate and engage a lot with NTR that I didn't spot the distinction. Plus I thought my scat example was kinda funny so I just pulled the trigger and posted.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about the opinions of cyber-cucks.
I'm joking man
, don't take it seriously.Disgust in NTR is a very real thing and often comes from the author himself, which is why many revenge arcs unfold in NTR.
As a reader, any genre you read should have some effect on you. Call it what you will depending on the context and the work in question. But in NTR, disgust and anger are valid emotions as long as the characters connect with you (and you're not just here for caricatures).
On the other hand, if the characters are reduced to be a simple piece of meat wrapped around genitals, the only emotion they will evoke in the reader is disgust, because those are not characters, they are just plot devices.
Also, why do you assume I don't enjoy this genre? I like reading good stories, and even in NTR you can find them. They're not abundant in the genre precisely because most fall into the literary sin of making everything revolve around an enormous member that reduces all the women around it to a primitive state of being "cum buckets." But good stories exist even in NTR.
All that said, no matter how the ending plays out, in my opinion Blake will always deserve a bullet in the balls.
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I wasn't going to play the nts path. But, with more and more scenes/cgs devoted to it, I thought I might just give it a go.
Alan's grown on me, as a result. I hated reading through his drivel on the ntr route. Like, absolute time wasting. But, he does have pretty interesting thoughts on the nts route. At least, his thoughts are sex-oriented, instead of what he normally comes out with on the ntr route.
Anyway, I'm still far from getting to the meat of the nts scenes. But, I did like what was presented on the night after he watches them on the couch. Understandable. And, I like the direction that might flow from what I've seen.
Just saying, I do like this nts route, now that I've seen a bit of it.
Alan's grown on me, as a result. I hated reading through his drivel on the ntr route. Like, absolute time wasting. But, he does have pretty interesting thoughts on the nts route. At least, his thoughts are sex-oriented, instead of what he normally comes out with on the ntr route.
Anyway, I'm still far from getting to the meat of the nts scenes. But, I did like what was presented on the night after he watches them on the couch. Understandable. And, I like the direction that might flow from what I've seen.
Just saying, I do like this nts route, now that I've seen a bit of it.
Most deserving, but those characters never seem to bother me as much as the FMCs who betray. It is the whole "scorpion and the frog" evaluation. Characters like Blake are what they are, to be expected as such. My only objection of them is the MC being such a tool to not realize this and allowing the guy to stay with him (get close to his girl), but I guess that is also part of the weak/shallow stories of these types (ie loser cuck deserves it).
The FMC though, it is always such a joke. They are portrayed as the sweet innocent love interest, the one who cares deeply for the MC, and yet... they completely allow themselves to be fondled and molested to the point of just being a shallow big dick craving whore that all other aspects of their being is irrelevant if they can get dicked constantly.
On top of that we have to suffer through the "poor me, I am cheating, I love the MC and care so much, poor me what am I doing... big dick yum!!! poor MC..." and this goes on and on as if we are somehow supposed to sympathize with the whore who carries on this lie to extreme levels of ever increasing displays of humiliation and insult to the MC, of course while they are monologuing their love for the MC between the proclaimed love for being a cum bucket.
In these stories, the FMC is the true villain. A corrupter can not corrupt without the consent of the corrupted and the FMCs are always eager to achieve this. If they cared, the moment they cheated they could have come clean, dealt with the consequences and moved on... (wherever that may be), but instead the carry it on, build it, and become worse than the corrupter in the humiliation games. They are the true evil in the story, not the victim and I think it would be nice to see the stories deal with that progression cycle, a full cycle rather than a half one as most NTR games are.
So I do agree about Blake, but the FMC needs to have some serious revenge on her as well (including the sister and mother).
I haven't played this update, but...
How do these always end of this concept of game?
NTR route... MC is a loser who deserved to be cucked, his friends hate him, his love hates him, everyone hates him and he should run off into a hole because he is pathetic and deserves to die.
NTRS route... same concept, but MC somehow is oblivious of the humiliation he is being put through.**
** if this weren't a size queen, tiny dick NTR game, there might be an argument... but no... NTRS route is just MC not understanding he is a cuck prop, but I will be honest and admit that I think NTRS is just a form of rationalized self cucking. No offense, just the way I see it.
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My thoughts exactly mate, as you already noticed.
I dont know about the sister and mother, since they didnt share any real relationship with the MC, but FMC definitely should face some kind of consecuence, personally dont know about a revenge on her per se, but since cheating is not an accident but a decision...She belongs to the streets nonetheless, or atleast to the same ditch I would love to throw Blake's remains, and MC's as an act of mercy.
With a friend like Blake...I wouldn't leave him alone even with my dog.
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The sister knew what was going, pushed it and promoted it, she is as guilty as Blake in that regard. The mother, well... I will be honest, I didn't detail the dialogue when I was running through it, so there may be some "innocence" in there by the mother, but lets be honest... is there really any "innocence" in the characters concerning these stories? All of them are the FMC +/- levels of extremes in the offense they do to the MC.
I would love to see a "years later" with the FMC and blake where he finally dumps her because she isn't as "appealing" as the current tails he chasing. It would even be funny to see a game like this where a new one is made from the FMCs view where she has to deal with the fact that she is being cheated on, degraded and discarded. I mean, every Whores eventual result is to become discarded where nobody wants to be around them because they no longer carry the visual appeal and the emotional means isn't possible for such wretched trash of a person. Could be interesting to see Alan show back up in the picture and how he would treat her, letting her see his disgust and refusing to accept her for anything but the betrayer and filthy cum rag she had sold herself out to be.
It would be interesting to see that view of suffering to which eventually every whore faces over time.