ZeroV2

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I mean the art is cool n all but... I sat on top of a dick in the middle of the bathroom floor in the dark? like seriously? you might as well of put a banana peel on the ground and let her slip on that and fall on his dick? Why tf this dude on the floor masturbating in the dark? like ???? and then she's on it and is just like oh noez I can't get off? This is some top tier meme shit. Parody level memes.... but tbf, NTR fans deserve this shit lol
Gotta agree. The massage leading into (very vaguely described) fingering (?? I guess? The writing seems to go back and forth) was a decent scene and somewhat realistic. Kind of a sexy scenario, the MC cuck being a dipshit and allowing his asshole friend that seemingly neither himself or his girlfriend like to massage his girlfriends thighs is stretching it but okay. I could see a line being crossed there driven by the heat of the moment. The animation was interesting in the scene too, but weird static AI animated hands threw it off. Also the portion where his thumb literally sinks into her thigh

Accidentally sitting on a massive erect dick that is so massive she cannot unclog it from her pussy? Be for real dude. It doesn't even make sense for like 5 different reasons. I dont want to backseat write here, but a much more appropriate and realistic escalation would be something like she voyeuristically watches him masturbate from the hallway while she does the same. Jumping straight into accidental sex so quickly is a crazy choice, both from a writing perspective and business perspective.
 

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yeah, i can't really disagree with this. Ive never walked into any room before and had it be so dark i couldn't tell i was about to sit on someone...and if i ever did, light switches exist for a reason. But w/e, i was ready for her to get her fuck on so at least we're here. She should have just walked into the bathroom and seen him right after that dream...maybe he's tugging one out and she just can't resist anymore cause the dream got her so worked up, maybe she just sees it and says fuck it and plops down on the floor and they masturbate together...that would have been super believable, but i don't really care either. I want to see her jumping on that dick so it's w/e....and her BF is also just a moron who hasn't fucked his gorgeous 25ish year old girl in like a month so she's obviously just on edge all the time. Women in their mid to late twenties are usually as horny as teenage boys. If you don't take care of her at least 3-4 times a week she's likely going to be sexually frustrated.
I want to say thank you, even if you found the scene a bit too unrealistic. I appreciate the feedback and thought it might help to explain a bit more about the intention behind it.

Personally, I don’t turn on the light when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night because it messes with my eyes’ adjustment to the dark. Most people I know are the same. I’m not trying to argue that this makes the scene perfectly realistic, just offering some context for why I designed it that way.

As for the characters' behavior, I’ve mentioned before that I intentionally tried to avoid making either Cristine or Blake too active at this stage. I still want to portray them as, at least on the surface, a decent girlfriend and a decent friend. I know some players may already feel that line has been crossed, but I believe things would feel even worse if either of them acted with full awareness and initiative this early on.
 

NTR.ai

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Gotta agree. The massage leading into (very vaguely described) fingering (?? I guess? The writing seems to go back and forth) was a decent scene and somewhat realistic. Kind of a sexy scenario, the MC cuck being a dipshit and allowing his asshole friend that seemingly neither himself or his girlfriend like to massage his girlfriends thighs is stretching it but okay. I could see a line being crossed there driven by the heat of the moment. The animation was interesting in the scene too, but weird static AI animated hands threw it off. Also the portion where his thumb literally sinks into her thigh

Accidentally sitting on a massive erect dick that is so massive she cannot unclog it from her pussy? Be for real dude. It doesn't even make sense for like 5 different reasons. I dont want to backseat write here, but a much more appropriate and realistic escalation would be something like she voyeuristically watches him masturbate from the hallway while she does the same. Jumping straight into accidental sex so quickly is a crazy choice, both from a writing perspective and business perspective.
To be honest, it’s not exactly realistic either. Someone else would jump in and say, "Be realistic, dude," no matter which direction I take.
 

jarngaffel

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To be honest, it’s not exactly realistic either. Someone else would jump in and say, "Be realistic, dude," no matter which direction I take.
I think you're going to keep getting alot of comments on that scene, everything else was dayum but that scene really got me going like huh? Its easy pickings for haters

not a huge NTR fan, but i'd play that. Ive always wanted to play a corruption game where you take down the douchebags who are abusing your girl while playing a strong dominant type MC who isn't shit in bed. It's nearly every NTR and NTS game out there. Weak willed small dicked semi-pathetic MC who does nothing to fix his problems but learns to love watching....it's definitely getting old. I dont hate this game though. I like it cause i can rename the friend and insert myself as him so it becomes an NTI game which there aren't a ton of out there either.
exactly how i play it too, don't get the appeal of being the cuck lol. The corruption aspect is great.
 

lv3175

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Yeah, so... Visuals are great, amazing animation work with AI. Unfortunately it's just another...

"I created out of thin air a 'good man' but mainly a pathetic wimp, paired him with a 'Loyal' goddess who loves him and plans to create her life with him. Then you create out of thin air a big-dicked loser asshole, who quickly finds 'reasons' to hammer away at the poor goddess, and she tosses her relationship into the toilet to become a 1-dimensional enthusiastic cum-dump."

This plot is old, no matter how pretty the pictures. Hey at least this asshole isn't black... not all in on the tired old trope. At this point, The Cuck is dismissable, the Slut is a piece of garbage to be discarded, and the Asshole needs to be shot and left in a ditch. End of story. No character is likable or relatable. Really couldn't care less what happens to them anymore.

Just once it would be amazing if this was not the go to plot for this type of fantasy. I mean seriously, Why not, just once, have the Cuck actually not be a pathetic wimp, but solid athete, smart and built, A good man (with an impressibe package himself), but the Girl finds herself in a blackmail situation, and is leveraged into being somebody elses toy, but has to keep it secret to protect herself and her lover. Unfortunately she finds she loves the rough sex she's forced to engage in; even as she hates her tormentors; even though he actual lover is very satisfing, and the strain of the 2 lives evokes the drama. Make the MC begin an adventure unknowingly puting him on course to expose his lovers tormentors, meanwhile the FMC can be trying to sabotage them from the inside, surrendering to using her body to earn her access to their secrets. Together, from different angles they rescue themselves from the assholes, and our MCs have to figure out how to accept eachothers newly expanded experiances and fetishes. Make the MC have have to cheat on his lover in the course of the adventure as he infiltrates his tormentors lives. Let the FMC find out first and have to deal with her lovers cheating, even as she is now cheating. drama!

I dunno, anything except this AVNs, admittedly well drawn, but insepid and tired plot.
Yah totally agree on the tired old trope of 'some loser who somehow has an out of his league drop dead hottie wife/girlfriend that he can't satisfy, enter big dick bob who blows her mind (and vagina) and makes her forget limp noodle bf/husband.' I mean why can't we have a fmc that is actually happy with an attractive partner who can satisfy her in bed, but that gets slowly roped into the action by choice and seduction. I mean something along the lines of her just giving in for the thrill of doing something bad/forbidden and the risk of getting caught. Or maybe just tired of the same old same old and wants a rush. Or hell, maybe flip it on its head and have her be with a 'bad boy' but gets seduced away by the 'nice' guy that shows her a real relationship and feelings. Why is it always some weak 2 minute man with a 4 inch penis scared of their own shadow, that would have never ended up with a bombshell in the first place. I mean it makes you root for the 'seducer' in the story, cause why would a woman stay with a loser that can't make her happy?
 

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Yah totally agree on the tired old trope of 'some loser who somehow has an out of his league drop dead hottie wife/girlfriend that he can't satisfy, enter big dick bob who blows her mind (and vagina) and makes her forget limp noodle bf/husband.' I mean why can't we have a fmc that is actually happy with an attractive partner who can satisfy her in bed, but that gets slowly roped into the action by choice and seduction. I mean something along the lines of her just giving in for the thrill of doing something bad/forbidden and the risk of getting caught. Or maybe just tired of the same old same old and wants a rush. Or hell, maybe flip it on its head and have her be with a 'bad boy' but gets seduced away by the 'nice' guy that shows her a real relationship and feelings. Why is it always some weak 2 minute man with a 4 inch penis scared of their own shadow, that would have never ended up with a bombshell in the first place. I mean it makes you root for the 'seducer' in the story, cause why would a woman stay with a loser that can't make her happy?
Honestly the thing that annoys me most about this trope is with the female she never portrayed in away to say the MC that she is with could be her first actual relationship who maybe even took her virginity so she has no past experience so she doesn't know anything else out side of her experiences with the MC , but on the other side she never portrayed in way that she comes across as this super slut where it would happen either way

So I puts me in the middle that she's had some sexual experiences, and yes I know it's a porn game and written a very specific way but she would of had sex with the MC in the early days of the relationship so she knows exactly what she's getting she has other experiences to compare it against so then it makes me think why then commit to the MC if the sex isn't your thing... Yes sex isn't everything but it plays a massive role in any relationship, so I guess what I struggle to see is what makes the FMC stick with the MC if he's not ticking all the right boxes
 
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Jebulus

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I want to say thank you, even if you found the scene a bit too unrealistic. I appreciate the feedback and thought it might help to explain a bit more about the intention behind it.

Personally, I don’t turn on the light when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night because it messes with my eyes’ adjustment to the dark. Most people I know are the same. I’m not trying to argue that this makes the scene perfectly realistic, just offering some context for why I designed it that way.

As for the characters' behavior, I’ve mentioned before that I intentionally tried to avoid making either Cristine or Blake too active at this stage. I still want to portray them as, at least on the surface, a decent girlfriend and a decent friend. I know some players may already feel that line has been crossed, but I believe things would feel even worse if either of them acted with full awareness and initiative this early on.

the massage (granted i skipped most of the repetitive ai dialogue) did already portray the "best" friends agency perfectly, but that scene u can get away with.

the bathroomscene is undefendable. you threw all believeability out the window here.
you not turning on the lights when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night is one thing. two people doing the same, alright can happen.
but theres a thousand other factors that have to play out perfectly for this to make sense.
the dude sitting in the middle of the night with his erect shlong on the crapper, why? diarrhea dick that doesnt fit in the bowl? he masturbates in the bathroom in the middle of the night? why not in his bed? he makes 0 sounds?
already unbelievable as fuck.
now enters the chick.
doesnt hear the dude
doesnt make out any kind of profile on the toilet, doesnt feel any heat or presence, doesnt hear anything, doesnt smell anything or anyone, doesnt check if the seat is down or anything just straight up pulls down her panties in the doorway i guess, positions herself to drop down on the bowl without entangling with the dudes legs whos shitting with a boner? jerking off without making sounds? perfectly angled with her dry pussy on his massive cartoon shlong? dick doesnt break, its just perfectly aligned to enter? legs arms hands nothing entangles just straight up plop pussy falls on top of dick.
bullshit.
the followup is even worse.
imagine ure a chick and i guess the universe alligned for a series of 501 consecutive lottowins kind of probability and u land on top of that dick, u dont jumpscare get off? RLY? because its too thick to get off? but entering is fine?

dude thinking this through gets worse and worse, this is 8year old boy braggin to his friends about his gangbang he had in the playboymansion last night believability. i know ai improved massively in the last few weeks, u cant tell me this took much personal input. if this scenario required more than 3-4 steps to create ud have held off urself at some point

ontop of lets just say incredibly unbelievable, u voided both characters of any kind of agency to make this happen. if either of them had, this fairytale inside a dream inside a fairytale would have been way hotter.
 
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NTR.ai

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the massage (granted i skipped most of the repetitive ai dialogue) did already portray the "best" friends agency perfectly, but that scene u can get away with.

the bathroomscene is undefendable. you threw all believeability out the window here.
you not turning on the lights when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night is one thing. two people doing the same, alright can happen.
but theres a thousand other factors that have to play out perfectly for this to make sense.
the dude sitting in the middle of the night with his erect shlong on the crapper, why? diarrhea dick that doesnt fit in the bowl? he masturbates in the bathroom in the middle of the night? why not in his bed? he makes 0 sounds?
already unbelievable as fuck.
now enters the chick.
doesnt hear the dude
doesnt make out any kind of profile on the toilet, doesnt feel any heat or presence, doesnt smell anything or anyone, doesnt check if the seat is down or anything just straight up pulls down her panties in the doorway i guess, positions herself to drop down on the bowl without entangling with the dudes legs whos shitting with a boner? jerking off without making sounds? perfectly angled with her dry pussy on his massive cartoon shlong? dick doesnt break, its just perfectly aligned to enter? legs arms hands nothing entangles just straight up plop pussy falls on top of dick.
bullshit.
the followup is even worse.
imagine ure a chick and i guess the universe alligned for a series of 501 consecutive lottowins kind of probability and u land on top of that dick, u dont jumpscare get off? RLY? because its too thick to get off? but entering is fine?

dude thinking this through gets worse and worse, this is 8year old boy braggin to his friends about his gangbang he had in the playboymansion last night believability. i know ai improved massively in the last few weeks, u cant tell me this took much personal input. if this scenario required more than 3-4 steps to create ud have held off urself at some point

ontop of lets just say incredibly unbelievable, u voided both characters of any kind of agency to make this happen. if either of them had this fairytale inside a dream inside a fairytale would have been way hotter.

If you are capable of thinking things through and explaining your points clearly, then assuming I just copied and pasted from AI to make a profit seems rather dismissive.

I am not going to claim I could have written this story entirely on my own. English is not my native language, and I struggle with writing in both Chinese and English. However, I do go through every scene and revise the dialogue while checking it alongside the visuals and animations. It is true that I sometimes cut repetitive lines, and I admit that was my mistake. I am sorry for that.

As for the questions and doubts you raised, I have already said multiple times that I know the bathroom scene is not realistic. What more do you want me to say? It is similar to "stuck" scenes in adult content. Nobody actually gets stuck in those situations either, but people still find it hot. That is why I used a similar concept here. I also shared my reasoning in another post.

And honestly, I really don’t understand why you’re so worked up. If I were a professional game developer and this were something you paid a lot of money for and couldn’t accept the story, I’d get it. But it is not, you can dislike and leave the comment, but why again and again and after I have already said that I know it is not realistic and also explained the reason in another posts.

copy paste that into the current ai prompt a couple of times, profit
 

Hotcoupleeasy

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I care about one thing : I was extremely turned on by the last update. Was it not realistic or realistic I don't care. I care also that animations is super and the dialogue is fucking hot. This game is different and this is great. Do we need copy paste ? No, we need different style.
 

Jebulus

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u're a bot, right? cant tell me u struggle with writing and then have these diplomatic, grammatically flawless answers everytime
 

Hefiron

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It's nice to see a dev so involved with the community. I hope he can discern the feedback, taking whats useful and not getting disheartened over a couple bad comments or reviews. There's no way to satisfy everyone and there will always be troll or malicious people.

So as the usual advise goes, follow your vision. I think you're on the right path, this kind of games stirs emotions and if some get angry you can even call it a good sign.

There's no problem using an absurd or comedic route to advance the plot, after all this is a porn game. As others said I remember a game using clumsiness leading to sex and it's a valid option.

Trying to improve is good but don't dwell too much in what you already make and keep pushing forward. I followed this game since release and got to say it has a nice pace so far.

Everyone can be an critical expert but how many of them have produced something themselves? You don't need to make something perfect but enjoyable imho.

I'm no native en speaker either and appreciate the effort it takes to express what you want without getting lost in translation. The game is understandable as a whole but there's some parts were it gets very rough. I noticed this mostly on highly hyphenated sentences.

I tried (and failed) to keep it short since there's lot of wall texts on this thread already, but the
Tldr is: the improvement is there in each release, keep going dev because you got something promising not only on this game but as a developer yourself.
 

NTR.ai

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It's nice to see a dev so involved with the community. I hope he can discern the feedback, taking whats useful and not getting disheartened over a couple bad comments or reviews. There's no way to satisfy everyone and there will always be troll or malicious people.

So as the usual advise goes, follow your vision. I think you're on the right path, this kind of games stirs emotions and if some get angry you can even call it a good sign.

There's no problem using an absurd or comedic route to advance the plot, after all this is a porn game. As others said I remember a game using clumsiness leading to sex and it's a valid option.

Trying to improve is good but don't dwell too much in what you already make and keep pushing forward. I followed this game since release and got to say it has a nice pace so far.

Everyone can be an critical expert but how many of them have produced something themselves? You don't need to make something perfect but enjoyable imho.

I'm no native en speaker either and appreciate the effort it takes to express what you want without getting lost in translation. The game is understandable as a whole but there's some parts were it gets very rough. I noticed this mostly on highly hyphenated sentences.

I tried (and failed) to keep it short since there's lot of wall texts on this thread already, but the
Tldr is: the improvement is there in each release, keep going dev because you got something promising not only on this game but as a developer yourself.
Thank you so much for the warm feedback, it's truly encouraging to hear that the improvements have been noticed. I'll do my best to ignore the unhelpful or aimless comments, but I have to admit, it's hard not to respond when I come across truly ridiculous statements. I guess it's just another part of personal growth for me.
 
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elbro

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The VN is interesting to me so far. I don't know how many updates it has, but looking through the folders, the game doesn't have many renders.

I think that's why the transitions between scenes are noticeably fast. A little more detail between scenes, especially the bathroom scene, would be better for the player. Being too direct isn't so good for telling a story.

Another thing: Blake is the antagonist, and as such, he's fine, but so far, his personality seems like a joke. Perhaps a little more character development would help his image.

I hope the game's creator continues with this project and has fun making it; it'll improve along the way.
 

NTR.ai

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The VN is interesting to me so far. I don't know how many updates it has, but looking through the folders, the game doesn't have many renders.

I think that's why the transitions between scenes are noticeably fast. A little more detail between scenes, especially the bathroom scene, would be better for the player. Being too direct isn't so good for telling a story.

Another thing: Blake is the antagonist, and as such, he's fine, but so far, his personality seems like a joke. Perhaps a little more character development would help his image.

I hope the game's creator continues with this project and has fun making it; it'll improve along the way.
Sorry, but the transitions scenes are about the one suggested by another member?
Now, pertaining to the animation: You absolutely don't have to sync reading speed and animations, but merely specific lines and animations. What I intended with my suggestion was essentially the following: Every animation so far loops endlessly. However, as soon as the line "She shifts instinctively, trying to pull away again [...]" comes up, you could end the endless loop and transition into a small animation where she attempts to more slowly lift her hips (to show the struggle) only to fall right back, only that his one does NOT loop. This means that it's quite literally a clip of a few seconds that ends after it has been played once. This then allows you to continue with still frames rather than animations without making the transition as abrupt as it is now (or continue with another animation for the thrusts; both are valid options). Furthermore, it more closely connects the text with the visuals. No need to anticipate reading speeds or anything futile like that.

If possible, could you elaborate a bit more on why you feel Blake's personality comes across as a joke? I’d love to understand your perspective better. Also, is there anything specific you’d like to see more of in terms of his character development?

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback!
 

damdadwa

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I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.
 

elbro

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If possible, could you elaborate a bit more on why you feel Blake's personality comes across as a joke? I’d love to understand your perspective better. Also, is there anything specific you’d like to see more of in terms of his character development?

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback!
He has a more stoner face that no one would take seriously, he seems very mocking.
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It reminds me of the boy from Scary Movie :LUL:
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Blake as an antagonist, that's fine. Even if the idea is for him to be stoner and carefree, even immoral, Blake should have some notable trait that makes the protagonist feel insecure.

For example, a good contrast would be for the protagonist to work hard to earn money, but his friend works little but earns the same or more. Inviting them to dinner would be a good idea, and if you want to include a post-celebration scene, like the protagonist drinking a lot and passing out (NTR moment).

Another scenario is for him to bring different girls home, which could lead to Cristina seeing him having sex and sparking her curiosity.

You could have Blake have hobbies that catch Cristina's attention, like being a Big Brother. Although he's very laid-back, he'd like to be a father at some point. She's a teacher, so taking care of others could be something she enjoys.
 
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