VN Ren'Py NTR'ed by My Friend [v0.5.1] [NTR.ai]

[pr0dukt]

I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.

The first fuck doesn't always have to be the finish line. In fact, its usually just where shit starts to ramp up in some of the best NTR works to date.... I'm a fan of the slow burn in particular hard Netori or Netorare cases where it makes sense to ease in from a starting point relationship,.. but given they have some history already, and given the characterization of Blake in general... this pacing works just fine I think. I think dragging it out would only prove to frustrate the reader and throw the characters off... they can only do the 'treading the edge' so many times and so often in such close proximity to Alan, without him intuitively know whats going on, then it becomes a completely different kind of narrative.. So is probably fine tbh.

 

[NTR.ai]

I know some people want to get into the action right away and I understand that. But this was too fast for me IMO. Could have played more of the mystery part with slower build up. It was going the right direction until that bathroom scene. Im loving the story so far but if it was meant to be short then i get it but I dont see where you can go from here they basically fucked already unless this was some type of dream.

If I were writing this game, I would delete that scene and keep it for a future scene. Instead they could do a massage part 2 where Male MC comes back and catches them massaging but she has her top off or something. Slower build up to make a longer game unless you want this to be short.

They went from almost touching her pussy through her shorts to penetration...

Playing this for free so appreciate any content anyways. Keep up the good work.

Yeah, this game won’t be long. I stated on my Patreon that there will be only ten chapters.

And thank you for the feedback—especially considering that you’re not a fan of the scene yourself. I really appreciate that. It’s totally fair to point out what you think could be better, and I respect that a lot. What I value most is that you’re not like some others who come in acting like they’re absolutely right and have some kind of “professional” authority over what this genre should be.

 

[NTR.ai]

He has a more stoner face that no one would take seriously, he seems very mocking.
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It reminds me of the boy from Scary Movie
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Blake as an antagonist, that's fine. Even if the idea is for him to be stoner and carefree, even immoral, Blake should have some notable trait that makes the protagonist feel insecure.

For example, a good contrast would be for the protagonist to work hard to earn money, but his friend works little but earns the same or more. Inviting them to dinner would be a good idea, and if you want to include a post-celebration scene, like the protagonist drinking a lot and passing out (NTR moment).

Another scenario is for him to bring different girls home, which could lead to Cristina seeing him having sex and sparking her curiosity.

You could have Blake have hobbies that catch Cristina's attention, like being a Big Brother. Although he's very laid-back, he'd like to be a father at some point. She's a teacher, so taking care of others could be something she enjoys.

To be honest, the way you feel about him is exactly what I wanted to capture—he is a funny guy, but not like some people around here. He’s funny in a good way… except for the part where he’s trying to fuck his friend’s girlfriend.

But I totally get your point. I actually added some flashbacks of him and Alan in v0.5.1, just to start hinting at their past. That said, it’s still pretty minimal—mostly because up to now, his role has been just the friend, so the way he acts is pretty much the same.

Starting from v0.6.0, though, his position shifts—he begins transitioning into both predator and lover. So I’ll definitely be expanding on his personality from there, showing different layers beyond just the laid-back buddy vibe.

 

[jarngaffel]

I truly appreciate your support and for being one of the patrons. I was genuinely glad to explain the setup and some of the intentions behind it. But I want to make it clear—I wasn’t trying to convince you. I simply shared my motivations and creative reasoning so you’d know that I did hear your thoughts, and here was mine in return.

As for him and me, we didn’t “over explain” the premise. What I saw was someone who didn’t fully agree with the scene, but still respected my setup and helped revise it as long as the scene stayed. That, to me, is real respect—not like the others who just jump in saying what you should do, or questioning your choices, or preaching that NTR needs to be a “serious” genre. Who decided that?

Some people just spouted nonsense and couldn’t back up a single point. As for me, I really don’t get where I supposedly “over explained” anything. I didn’t say “Hey, this is how it works because of X, Y, and Z.” I just gave three simple reasons for why the scene exists: the “keep light off” personal behavior, the character relationship building, and the inspiration from typical porn stuck scenarios. That’s it.

And the funniest thing is, no one can clearly explain the difference between this and a stuck scene. If someone can, great—I’m open to hearing it. But if they can’t, then it’s not about the logic behind the scene—it’s just personal taste. They don’t like this type of setup. And that’s fine. But that doesn’t make it a joke or invalid. This type of setup is popular for a reason and clearly has its audience.

If I wanted to be just as subjective, I’d say taking NTR or any porn genre “seriously” is the actual joke. You can take documentaries, biographies, and history seriously—but porn? Are you writing a thesis now? That’s the kind of attitude they have: full of criticism, entirely subjective, claiming to “embrace diversity” while refusing to accept any perspective that doesn’t match their own. Hypocrites.

Ngl i think those arguments are silly, getting philosophical and think theres a rule to ntr writing is kinda eh considering there's so much crap out there but I guess people like what you did and got really emotional over it cause he did give a good rating before it.

For me im a simple man, I just don't think you can accidentally sit on a dick unless she knew he was there before and did it on purpose. At least if you're stuck no matter how silly it is, the initiation is by the other party with intent - whether it's more teasing or penetrative. At least people can imagine that scenario playing out if it was consensually ok to do so, I think that's where the difference is.

 

[NTR.ai]

Ngl i think those arguments are silly, getting philosophical and think theres a rule to ntr writing is kinda eh considering there's so much crap out there but I guess people like what you did and got really emotional over it cause he did give a good rating before it.

For me im a simple man, I just don't think you can accidentally sit on a dick unless she knew he was there before and did it on purpose. At least if you're stuck no matter how silly it is, the initiation is by the other party with intent - whether it's more teasing or penetrative. At least people can imagine that scenario playing out if it was consensually ok to do so, I think that's where the difference is.

I appreciate you pointing out the difference, it’s a fair observation. That said, stuck scenes typically start as accidents, not intentional situations. Sure, they escalate deliberately later, but the setup almost always involves the woman being stuck somewhere, and a man seeing it and taking advantage of the opportunity.

So yes, I agree that one side being actively predatory can be the key difference. But the people arguing against my scene were talking about “realism.” And honestly, although there is a difference between stuck scenes and mine in terms of escalation, the initialization is the same level of unrealistic. Who gets stuck with half their body on one side and the other half on the opposite side of a washing machine, a wall hole, or a garbage can?

And if the beginning is already that unrealistic, I don’t think adding realism to the escalation helps at all. Let’s just take one random example someone else brought up—someone who clearly thought he was being clever. If a woman steps on a banana peel and somehow gets stuck with the banana, and then some man sees that and decides to fuck her, does that make it more acceptable?

Once again, I prefer that agreement or disagreement be based on personal taste—there’s no superiority or inferiority in that. And personal taste has nothing to do with logical reasoning or anything like that. It’s just like how some people enjoy fantasy, while others prefer more “realistic” genres.

 

[Fitharia]

Animation wise pretty well done, AI wise, not interesting characters, story wise pretty bad, come on you don't tell me she just fell on his cock and it shoved right in as if that even possible and then say she didn't knew he was in the bathroom. I love the animations, but there it stops. Wanted to try it one more time but this is sadly one of those worse NTR games with no real story in it and just stupid mistakes to turn it into NTR.

 

[Mirnation]

0.5 dropped and man, I didn't expect the AI to be as competent as that for this kind of scene.
There is a bit of redundancy in the dialogue here and there, a different artstyle for one pic with an "anime" tone but that was a solid update, especially because of the top notch animations, which were smooth, numerous and well edited.

I'm also surprised to see the update being released even though you worked on the other project (I'll say I prefer Christine's design but the new female MC looks pretty good too and the dad gives me a Chris Redfield vibe). Good job.

What's the other project you mentioned ?

 

[Nick Nosferatu]

What's the other project you mentioned ?

It's a work in progress, NTR'd by my dad. So far, there is a plot description and the picture of both the dad and the female MC.
As for the release date, it could be sooner than you would expect.

 

[TheDoctor88]

I know I'm probably late to the AI Chat game party but does anyone know where to start trying to develop a game like this?

 

[DaddyO]

This is my first comment, so hopefully I don't break some unwritten/unread protocol.

NTR.ai, I was sucked in at the first animation. Even the stills are hot. The basic story arc is great. I agree with giving Blake a bit more legitimacy/maturity and maybe less morality. He could be dastardly enough to orchestrate scenarios leaving him alone with his friend's girl. Maybe it's not always work pulling him away, but car issue, or what have you. I love that both Blake and GF have the summer off. Perfect opportunity to extend the NTR denial period. Following bathroom incident, she could be ridden with guilt and self promise to avoid Blake going forward. There's so many ways to go. I'll be watching for updates and plan to join your Patreon/Substcribe shortly. Perhaps there's some moments where he's pining for her when the MC is getting "all the loving".

Good luck and keep it coming! Great work!

 

[elbro]

To be honest, the way you feel about him is exactly what I wanted to capture—he is a funny guy, but not like some people around here. He’s funny in a good way… except for the part where he’s trying to fuck his friend’s girlfriend.

But I totally get your point. I actually added some flashbacks of him and Alan in v0.5.1, just to start hinting at their past. That said, it’s still pretty minimal—mostly because up to now, his role has been just the friend, so the way he acts is pretty much the same.

Starting from v0.6.0, though, his position shifts—he begins transitioning into both predator and lover. So I’ll definitely be expanding on his personality from there, showing different layers beyond just the laid-back buddy vibe.

Excellent. I've always liked villains to have a positive side. It also helps us sympathize with them or not hate characters who see good in them. It also provides arguments for Cristina to fall for Blake's manipulation.

It would be interesting to give Blake more support because messing with his friend's girlfriend is okay with him. It would be because his father told him that his mother was once the girlfriend of a coworker and that when he met her, he fell in love with her, so he pursued her and the two got married, emphasizing that the only thing that matters in the end is his happiness.

Another thing could be that Blake saw his mother having sex with someone other than his father, so he considers that all women are easy and treacherous, so they are only good for having fun.

 

[arimortaccitua]

He has a more stoner face that no one would take seriously, he seems very mocking.
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It reminds me of the boy from Scary Movie
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Blake as an antagonist, that's fine. Even if the idea is for him to be stoner and carefree, even immoral, Blake should have some notable trait that makes the protagonist feel insecure.

For example, a good contrast would be for the protagonist to work hard to earn money, but his friend works little but earns the same or more. Inviting them to dinner would be a good idea, and if you want to include a post-celebration scene, like the protagonist drinking a lot and passing out (NTR moment).

Another scenario is for him to bring different girls home, which could lead to Cristina seeing him having sex and sparking her curiosity.

You could have Blake have hobbies that catch Cristina's attention, like being a Big Brother. Although he's very laid-back, he'd like to be a father at some point. She's a teacher, so taking care of others could be something she enjoys.

you're right, he has the face of a drugged idiot, let's forget about the usual difference in the size of his dick, it's triple that of Mc, you've created a Toro who's more of an idiot than MC

 

[Harted]

When is chap 5 public release ?

 

[arimortaccitua]

This is my first comment, so hopefully I don't break some unwritten/unread protocol.

NTR.ai, I was sucked in at the first animation. Even the stills are hot. The basic story arc is great. I agree with giving Blake a bit more legitimacy/maturity and maybe less morality. He could be dastardly enough to orchestrate scenarios leaving him alone with his friend's girl. Maybe it's not always work pulling him away, but car issue, or what have you. I love that both Blake and GF have the summer off. Perfect opportunity to extend the NTR denial period. Following bathroom incident, she could be ridden with guilt and self promise to avoid Blake going forward. There's so many ways to go. I'll be watching for updates and plan to join your Patreon/Substcribe shortly. Perhaps there's some moments where he's pining for her when the MC is getting "all the loving".

Good luck and keep it coming! Great work!

other options, she literally fell on Blake's dick, she's like a lunatic, she can't get up, hahahahaha, what the fuck is wrong with these VNs, they slide on the dick like a banana peel, and they stay on it, Blake is ridiculous, but Cristine is more ridiculous than him, then MC, god god god, I'm speechless, it's a parody of trashy porn.

 

[NTR.ai]

This is my first comment, so hopefully I don't break some unwritten/unread protocol.

NTR.ai, I was sucked in at the first animation. Even the stills are hot. The basic story arc is great. I agree with giving Blake a bit more legitimacy/maturity and maybe less morality. He could be dastardly enough to orchestrate scenarios leaving him alone with his friend's girl. Maybe it's not always work pulling him away, but car issue, or what have you. I love that both Blake and GF have the summer off. Perfect opportunity to extend the NTR denial period. Following bathroom incident, she could be ridden with guilt and self promise to avoid Blake going forward. There's so many ways to go. I'll be watching for updates and plan to join your Patreon/Substcribe shortly. Perhaps there's some moments where he's pining for her when the MC is getting "all the loving".

Good luck and keep it coming! Great work!

Thank you for making your first comment to give me the feedback and encouragement! It's truly my honor. But I’m sorry—I might end up letting you down a little.

Originally, I had planned to use the summer break as a chance for Blake to make moves on Cristine while Alan was at work. But at some point, that plan became less realistic to fully implement. I still want to make use of that setup as much as I can, but I can’t promise there will be a long NTR denial period, since this game isn’t meant to be a long one.

 

[Harted]

Thank you for making your first comment to give me the feedback and encouragement! It's truly my honor. But I’m sorry—I might end up letting you down a little.

Originally, I had planned to use the summer break as a chance for Blake to make moves on Cristine while Alan was at work. But at some point, that plan became less realistic to fully implement. I still want to make use of that setup as much as I can, but I can’t promise there will be a long NTR denial period, since this game isn’t meant to be a long one.

Hey, public release for v5 is today bro?

 

[NTR.ai]

Excellent. I've always liked villains to have a positive side. It also helps us sympathize with them or not hate characters who see good in them. It also provides arguments for Cristina to fall for Blake's manipulation.

It would be interesting to give Blake more support because messing with his friend's girlfriend is okay with him. It would be because his father told him that his mother was once the girlfriend of a coworker and that when he met her, he fell in love with her, so he pursued her and the two got married, emphasizing that the only thing that matters in the end is his happiness.

Another thing could be that Blake saw his mother having sex with someone other than his father, so he considers that all women are easy and treacherous, so they are only good for having fun.

Although I said that I would introduce him more, I wouldn’t say that I’m really trying to highlight his positive traits. He’s the type who’s willing to help if it’s not too much trouble, and he can fight for what he believes in. He also knows that what he’s doing is wrong—but he still chooses to do it because he wants to.

I don’t think it’s necessary to give him some detailed backstory to justify why he would steal his friend’s girlfriend. Sometimes people just do things they know are wrong. A common example is slacking off and wasting time—we know we shouldn’t, but we still do it anyway.

 

[NTR.ai]

Hey, public release for v5 is today bro?

Probably 4/27 01:00 (UTC +8)

 

[Jebulus]

I appreciate you pointing out the difference, it’s a fair observation. That said, stuck scenes typically start as accidents, not intentional situations. Sure, they escalate deliberately later, but the setup almost always involves the woman being stuck somewhere, and a man seeing it and taking advantage of the opportunity.

So yes, I agree that one side being actively predatory can be the key difference. But the people arguing against my scene were talking about “realism.” And honestly, although there is a difference between stuck scenes and mine in terms of escalation, the initialization is the same level of unrealistic. Who gets stuck with half their body on one side and the other half on the opposite side of a washing machine, a wall hole, or a garbage can?

And if the beginning is already that unrealistic, I don’t think adding realism to the escalation helps at all. Let’s just take one random example someone else brought up—someone who clearly thought he was being clever. If a woman steps on a banana peel and somehow gets stuck with the banana, and then some man sees that and decides to fuck her, does that make it more acceptable?

Once again, I prefer that agreement or disagreement be based on personal taste—there’s no superiority or inferiority in that. And personal taste has nothing to do with logical reasoning or anything like that. It’s just like how some people enjoy fantasy, while others prefer more “realistic” genres.

i didnt rly wanna do this as u seem to value only syccophants but i can only read this so many times.

theres a few differences between your bathroom and the "classical" im stuck scene, and the biggest one is this: AGENCY

usually mc happens to find someone stuck in a helpless situation, and the MC now has a choice. do i help this stuck person? do i abuse it? if i abuse it, is someone else gonna catch us? etc etc. these choices give the mc power. its still very unrealistic but its the choice that makes this scenario hot.

another difference: being stuck like that somewhere is one huge coincidence. your bathroom scene is one huge coincidence ontop of another coincidence ontop of another one. i even listed it almost step by step a few posts ago as i found the immersionbreak so jarring. it honestly felt almost insulting to expect me as a player to just roll with it.

and then my personal gripe with your its a game, porn is also unrealistic excuse.

thats whataboutism comparing two very different forms of media.

porn mostly focuses on visual presentation of their paid actors and models penetrating each other. the plot is just a flimsy excuse to get them there. but even they found out that having somewhat of a story around it helps with immersion, making their product more effective as jerkoff fantasies.
now compare that to the visual/kinetic novel game form, which is inherently more immersive, with way more focus on how to set up the stage and a whole lot of descriptive words and dialogue to help with that. realism or believability and immersion is the benchmark quality that filters the good from the bad.


so theres that. i didnt agree with your reasoning so i felt compelled to respond, the essence is still constructive but i didnt phrase it in a i guess "nice" way so feel free to ignore it. i agree that its your game and you can do what you want, our interests only align in that i assume you want to make a good game, and i want to play a good game.

 

[NTR.ai]

i didnt rly wanna do this as u seem to value only syccophants but i can only read this so many times.

theres a few differences between your bathroom and the "classical" im stuck scene, and the biggest one is this: AGENCY

usually mc happens to find someone stuck in a helpless situation, and the MC now has a choice. do i help this stuck person? do i abuse it? if i abuse it, is someone else gonna catch us? etc etc. these choices give the mc power. its still very unrealistic but its the choice that makes this scenario hot.

another difference: being stuck like that somewhere is one huge coincidence. your bathroom scene is one huge coincidence ontop of another coincidence ontop of another one. i even listed it almost step by step a few posts ago as i found the immersionbreak so jarring. it honestly felt almost insulting to expect me as a player to just roll with it.

and then my personal gripe with your its a game, porn is also unrealistic excuse.

thats whataboutism comparing two very different forms of media.

porn mostly focuses on visual presentation of their paid actors and models penetrating each other. the plot is just a flimsy excuse to get them there. but even they found out that having somewhat of a story around it helps with immersion, making their product more effective as jerkoff fantasies.
now compare that to the visual/kinetic novel game form, which is inherently more immersive, with way more focus on how to set up the stage and a whole lot of descriptive words and dialogue to help with that. realism or believability and immersion is the benchmark quality that filters the good from the bad.


so theres that. i didnt agree with your reasoning so i felt compelled to respond, the essence is still constructive but i didnt phrase it in a i guess "nice" way so feel free to ignore it. i agree that its your game and you can do what you want, our interests only align in that i assume you want to make a good game, and i want to play a good game.

Funny, so how do you think about the statements from ConspicuousChanneler and NullVector? You think the former one was agreeing with me? And the latter one had a point?

So NullVector can say something like, " everyone else gave you solid reasons ", and you did like the comment, are you blind to other comments about the compliments?

If you think ConspicuousChanneler didn't agree with me completely, then your accusation "the one value only syccophants" is wrong. If you think he was agreeing with me. I don't think I need to have discussion about your other comments.

And I don't know why you have the audacity to say that I am the one value only syccophants when you these people were doing the thing you are questioning like ignoring other comments that are not the same as you. And did you pay for this game? Why do you also have the audacity to say that you want to play a game for free so you require others to make a good game for you?