You downplayed their criticism with "It's a porn game. It's not that serious." to which they understandably defended themselves. If you're open to others criticising and having a discussion, don't act like their criticism is somehow worth less just because it's directed at porn. It comes off as antagonistic.
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I didn't downplay that they could criticize. I was downplaying the seriousness of that scene. I was disagreeing and pointing out what was known all along about the game, "Magic big dick scenarios or unrealistic scenes." AKA, porn logic. He gave his opinion, and I gave mine.
When I replied to his criticism, he said, "That's because it was a dumb scene". If I liked the scene, does that mean he downplayed my opinion?
State your opinion, don't cry when it gets challenged.
Responding to criticism by saying that it's just a porn game, isn't downplaying a scene. It's making a blanket statement that porn games aren't serious enough to warrant such criticism, essentially devaluing and undermining the criticism in question.
Calling a scene dumb is directly criticizing the scene's writing, and not your opinion of it. They were already well into criticizing the scene before you even entered the conversation.
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And? Did I hurt your feelings? I'm pretty sure people were commenting on the game long before he was. The criticism was a waste of time, since there is a warning about what he was complaining about. It wasn't a big deal, and still isn't. Let it go, be happy.
Ah, there it is. I appreciate you at least admitting that you were downplaying their criticism rather than the game. It's better to be honest in discussions from the start, as it avoids silly squabbles like these. Cheers, friend.
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I wasn't downplaying anything with my original comment. I think you are overthinking, and getting offended over a misunderstanding. What's arrogant is playing a game with content you know you don't like, and then coming back and complaining about it, saying you don't care if you were warned ahead of tome. Anyway, peace.
Say what you will now, but you did, and only further confirmed your position by calling their criticism a waste of time.
Also, criticizing 'rapey' scenes in a game that isn't tagged for it is hardly going in expecting content that you don't like.
Have a nice day.
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"Rapey", is your opinion. And you are wrong, he already agreed that he was warned and said he didn't care. Read my original response. It was harmless. I am now, because you are annoying, and disingenuous. Doing backflips to make a nonsensical point. I didn't say they were wasting their time at first. But I am sating you are now, and you have been from the start. You are not the gatekeeper for opinions and comments, telling people how to word things and white knighting for randos on an NTR thread. I don't care what you think, and I will say what I want. Now kindly get over yourself and fuck off.
The game is solid — great animations, and I really liked that the main guy isn’t a total idiot. But honestly, I feel like the ending needed a longer route, like actually seeing him rebuild his life with his boss, or maybe even getting back with his ex. You could add that in this game, or save it for another one with more NTR or vanilla scenes. Also, you didn’t really give us anything with the boss, even though you introduced her — so in a new game or an extended ending, he could either decide to forgive his cheating ex, or completely drop her and start something new with his boss.
It isn't my opinion, it was the topic of their discussion when you interjected. No front page "warning" nor your assertion that it's a porn game applies or invalidates their criticism, which is why they defended it. Your original comment downplayed their criticism and sparked the initial exchange/confusion, and you doubled down on that a few posts up, whether you want to admit it or not.
Nothing that I've said is disingenuous. I'm simply reading the flow of conversation and pointing out where it broke down. I certainly didn't expect you to take offense to the point of dragging it out this far.
You know what they should have added feature at the beginning when you're selecting which povs you want they should have gave you a selection to choose whether to play Laker Allen through the story it would have brought the Story full circle I think I mean it's full circle now but it would have gave people the views what happened behind the scenes and all he would have had to do said maybe a couple scenes but you would have the full Dynamic of the story from all angles
Or have a small mini story game same title into yard by my friend with the subtitle Blake's story that runs staying timeline the story is the original game just get it from Blake's point of view
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You only replied to me because you decided to take offense with me for whatever reason. I "doubled down" because you are annoying like a stalker. Do you go into all the threads he posts in and defend him?
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Wow...this is the reason why I really think this website should introduce more ENGLISH labels like: female unwillingly cheating. I repeated this point over and over: NTR is Japanese Jargon that many Western players would misunderstand. If we look at the nuts and bolts, "NTR" initially carries a violent connotation. NTR(Netorare) is 寝取られ in Japanese, and 取 means take/being taken ---by force, semantically.
The NTR genre became popular initially in Japanese comics, where the process is dominant males subjugating females who are not willingly in the first place. Females later on surrender to and collude with the culprit because of all kinds of stupid reasons ---like: big cock. However, the fundamental reason is that women are liberated from social norms and the feeling of shame(eg, liking big cocks). From this perspective, NTR might look like rape due to the female's vocal protests. But the difference is that the males never completely restrain females, who actually can leave at any time. It's presented in detail; for example, FMC would ask themselves repeatedly, "Why can't I just say no to him?" (body is more honest)
Well, I won't deny that this could upset some players, but it was mainly caused by a lack of ENGLISH labels. I recommend players to get ready for the unconsented sex whenever they see the label "NTR", even though most of the violence is symbolic.
The NTR genre became popular initially in Japanese comics, where the process is dominant males subjugating females who are not willingly in the first place. Females later on surrender to and collude with the culprit because of all kinds of stupid reasons ---like: big cock. However, the fundamental reason is that women are liberated from social norms and the feeling of shame(eg, liking big cocks). From this perspective, NTR might look like rape due to the female's vocal protests. But the difference is that the males never completely restrain females, who actually can leave at any time. It's presented in detail; for example, FMC would ask themselves repeatedly, "Why can't I just say no to him?" (body is more honest)
Well, I won't deny that this could upset some players, but it was mainly caused by a lack of ENGLISH labels. I recommend players to get ready for the unconsented sex whenever they see the label "NTR", even though most of the violence is symbolic.
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This thread focuses on consensual content, if that's what people are looking for.
https://f95zone.to/threads/western-sharing-games-list.226259/
Honestly? I figured you could benefit from seeing why the conversation you had broke down the way it did. Understanding that much can help you avoid similar miscommunications in the future. There's really nothing more to it than that.