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DaFinker

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is it only me or are there some missing images? View attachment 4492563
According to the Modder, the Dev made changes to the entire script and the names of the slides for the "school/college" transition. I suspect there will be multiple disconnects and problems that arise from this. That scene worked right in v0.18 (I'm playing it now after not playing since v0.10 due to all of the retroactive changes that were happening), so you should probably just keep track of how many of these you run across so a proper bugfix can be done for all the bugs missed during the initial vetting. These problems have been pretty common during the retroactive change process that started around v0.08 or v0.07, whenever it was.
 

EyeWish1

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Here are some samples of the English translation fix I am working on..






 

Shawnchapp

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Wasn't that a scandal with the Russian space station?
idk but its also

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Updated my compressed Android port of Nudist College (formerly known as Nudist School) with Shawnchapp's walkthrough mod to v0.19.

Got some basic gestures loaded in: swipe up for save menu, swipe down to hide UI, swipe left to rollback and swipe right to skip. Save files are now stored in the Documents folder. This sometimes means that you may need to close and re-open the port after installing so the save folder is properly created.

Please let me know if you encounter any issues with the port and I'll see what I can do to get them sorted.

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Aioto

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It wasn't just "school/college" that was changed, the dev did a find and replace that changed all instances of "girls" to "women", sometimes "womens".
 

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It wasn't just "school/college" that was changed, the dev did a find and replace that changed all instances of "girls" to "women", sometimes "womens".
Which is also dumb if it was required. Even adult women in English are sometimes referred to as "girls".
  • Say, girls, shall we show them a good time?
  • My girl gives me crap whenever I act "too much like a man".
  • [Neon signs for sex spots — strip clubs or otherwise — often have "Girls, girls, girls" or similar]
  • "We messing with the same girl (same girl) same girl
    How could the love of my life, and my potential wife be the
    Same girl (same girl) same girl..."
Just as some examples. But sure, let's pretend "girl" always means underaged or something. :rolleyes:
 

jclosed

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Which is also dumb if it was required. Even adult women in English are sometimes referred to as "girls".
  • Say, girls, shall we show them a good time?
  • My girl gives me crap whenever I act "too much like a man".
  • [Neon signs for sex spots — strip clubs or otherwise — often have "Girls, girls, girls" or similar]
  • "We messing with the same girl (same girl) same girl
    How could the love of my life, and my potential wife be the
    Same girl (same girl) same girl..."
Just as some examples. But sure, let's pretend "girl" always means underaged or something. :rolleyes:
Don't underestimate Steam's stupidity and overthinking. Steam once even banned a VN like The Expression Amrilato where the only offence was a girl taking a bath, while there was absolutely nothing to see. And that game was about learning Esperanto!
So yeah - I can understand the author being very careful. Steam really made people completely paranoia about triggering a ban...
Of course if the girls where torturers lead by Hitler in a Nazi death camp, chopping of heads and limbs left, right and middle, then Steam has no problem at all, even if the girls would be under aged. A torture camp is no school you see...
 

Aioto

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Which is also dumb if it was required. Even adult women in English are sometimes referred to as "girls".
  • Say, girls, shall we show them a good time?
  • My girl gives me crap whenever I act "too much like a man".
  • [Neon signs for sex spots — strip clubs or otherwise — often have "Girls, girls, girls" or similar]
  • "We messing with the same girl (same girl) same girl
    How could the love of my life, and my potential wife be the
    Same girl (same girl) same girl..."
Just as some examples. But sure, let's pretend "girl" always means underaged or something. :rolleyes:
I also think they swapped "classmate" with "peer".
 

torpedogoat

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Don't underestimate Steam's stupidity and overthinking. [...]
I agree that it's dumb, but it's probably not entirely Steam's fault. They have the difficult job of making the games they are selling compatible with many dozens of different jurisdictions, each of which has different, sometimes vague rules. Some of these rules are so new that the locals haven't figured out yet how to interpret them. Breaking such a rule can have severe consequences. There is a chance that the local authorities enforcing these rules do not speak English and operate with translations that render "girl" as a word that cannot refer to an adult woman, only to a child. Either by accident or intentionally to solicit a bribe or unfairly prosecute Steam.

For example in Germany, the rules have become so strict that Steam has basically given up. The vast majority of adult-only Steam games cannot be bought at all; their store pages return an error in Germany and you need an external search engine to even find out that elsewhere they are available on Steam. A few are available in a censored version only. Also lots of older games are no longer available in Germany despite having no adult content at all, just because the developer could not be bothered to fill in the affirmation to that effect which recently became a requirement.

If they don't want to give other countries a similar treatment as Germany, Steam must be extremely strict. It's not practicable for them to have different rules for different countries. They need a single set of rules restrictive enough for all countries that don't get the Germany treatment. Any relaxing of the rules would probably mean that there is an additional country where they can't sell adult games at all.
 
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S1nsational

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Some games have patches to restore incest that was censored because of Patreon.

It honestly sounds like this game will need a patch to restore common sense language to the game.
 
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-CookieMonster666-

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I agree that it's dumb, but it's probably not entirely Steam's fault. They have the difficult job of making the games they are selling compatible with many dozens of different jurisdictions, each of which has different, sometimes vague rules. Some of these rules are so new that the locals haven't figured out yet how to interpret them. Breaking such a rule can have severe consequences. There is a chance that the local authorities enforcing these rules do not speak English and operate with translations that render "girl" as a word that cannot refer to an adult woman, only to a child. Either by accident or intentionally to solicit a bribe or unfairly prosecute Steam.

For example in Germany, the rules have become so strict that Steam has basically given up. The vast majority of adult-only Steam games cannot be bought at all; their store pages return an error in Germany and you need an external search engine to even find out that elsewhere they are available on Steam. A few are available in a censored version only. Also lots of older games are no longer available in Germany despite having no adult content at all, just because the developer could not be bothered to fill in the affirmation to that effect which recently became a requirement.

If they don't want to give other countries a similar treatment as Germany, Steam must be extremely strict. It's not practicable for them to have different rules for different countries. They need a single set of rules restrictive enough for all countries that don't get the Germany treatment. Any relaxing of the rules would probably mean that there is an additional country where they can't sell adult games at all.
Sounds like a them problem, though. If they have bad translations (software or otherwise), they need to get it fixed. Something like "girl" in English referring to an adult woman is as common as "man" or "dude" meaning any person ("Come on, man!" or "Dude, what a piece of crap!"). Developers can't be held responsible for Steam doing a piss-poor job of translating content. What's more, there are things like Japanese-language-only games sold in the United States, so I see no reason why games on Steam can't be in English without any translation provided. For anyone playing who actually knows English (fluent, not just proficient), there would be no confusion whatsoever.

To be frank, I think what you've described is far more than a problem with translations and multiple jurisdictions. This is a problem of control. Individual nations wanting control over content coming from another country. If they have such a big problem with it, they should just block stuff from other countries. And if citizens of those countries have a problem with what their governments do, they should seek for change if possible. For instance, obviously not all places have this option, but if they can vote out stupid anal-retentive prudes, they should.

I see no reason why anyone should have to censor their content because of some cultural difference. Different cultures view things in different ways. If you — whether as a personal decision or as a cultural influence — have a problem with how something is done elsewhere, just don't get that content. Trying to have government force companies to self-censor, effectively taking over the job of that nation's individuals practicing a modicum of self-discipline, is one of the stupidest things humans have ever come up with.

Again, because Nudist College is written in English — and because in nations with English as a first language there's absolutely nothing wrong with the terms school or girls, or in showing students in uniforms while in school — no changes whatsoever should ever have been required of Elsa. Steam is dictating an author's creativity at the behest of stupid governments who are too intolerant to understand that other cultures exist and their own way isn't "the only right way".
 
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DaFinker

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Sounds like you should volunteer. ;)
I did that more than a year ago. Twice. Offered to do it for free.

I often have the time, so I've offered for several VNs that I've played to clean up the English translation, but no takers. I think many don't want to add any more time to their production cycle and, on a more mature VN it would take a day or two or three to do the editing and then have someone else review it (the worst person to review work is the creator of that work). Of course, the review cycle for updates wouldn't take much time, and once you get past that first big edit, what follows for a VN like this one shouldn't take much time at all - a matter of a couple of hours versus a day or more.
 
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