LordLegolas

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I hate people like this. MF knows nothing about the process of 3D making, especially human rigging, especially animating anything, and animating humans is the hardest of all (except maybe liquids).

10 sec video may take days/week, 5 min it's 1-3 months, ONLY IF you know what you're doing

And they sitting on, lets be real, a pirate forum, getting all for free, and STILL manage to complain...
It pisses me off the most...
 
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mrttao

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How? If it goes beyond being taste then you're saying you're entitled to penetration? And by the way, porn isn't only sex and sex isn't only penetration, that's a childish mindset. By that logic lesbians neither make porn nor have sex.

Again, if you can't enjoy porn without penetration, then a lot of the content isn't going to be to your taste.
I said "sex" not penetration. don't put words in my mouth.
Lesbians eating each other out is oral sex and has no penetration, but is still porn.
 

mrttao

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I hate people like this. MF knows nothing about the process of 3D making, especially human rigging, especially animating anything, and animating humans is the hardest of all (except maybe liquids).

10 sec video may take days/week, 5 min it's 1-3 moths, ONLY IF you know what you're doing

And you sitting on, lets be real, a pirate forum, getting all for free, and STILL manage to complain...
It pisses me off the most...
So you want us to... what?
lie and tell him that a 10 sec video of someone posing is great and we love it and please do more of them?
 

itsyeboii

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I said "sex" not penetration. don't put words in my mouth.
Lesbians eating each other out is oral sex and has no penetration, but is still porn.
Well, there's plenty of sex in his videos then isn't there? I'm not putting words into your mouth you did that yourself, you and those others are acting as if the majority of Nyl's content is literally just models doing nothing, so that means you think those videos don't include sex because there's no penetration.

Pin-ups are porn too, showing off dick and tit physics in small videos counts as porn too. Plenty of people like pin-ups and short soft-core, oral sex, slow penetration, whatever. What is your point?
So you want us to... what?
lie and tell him that a 10 sec video of someone posing is great and we love it and please do more of them?
Nope, like I said before. Feel free to cry about something not matching your taste.
 

LordLegolas

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So you want us to... what?
lie and tell him that a 10 sec video of someone posing is great and we love it and please do more of them?
if Nyl makes something 10 sec or pin-ups, it is a side projects.
Usually you give to subs a small things like this to hype up a main video, and for a side works, it's actually damn good

And again, when it's a side projects for Nyl, the other 99% of artists never do the long videos, bcs how hard and time consuming it is, at least solo
 
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hater45

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I like how you qualify it with "major". So that all the videos that just show someone just standing there count as "minor" and thus do not count
Were you talking about pin ups, animation testing, and side projects? Nyl probably works on multiple to avoid burn out or getting bored on a project, so he throws out non major works. I never knew someone getting something free would complain about getting content lmao.
 

mrttao

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Nope, like I said before. Feel free to cry about something not matching your taste.
Cry?
It wasn't even me who initially complained. It was buster909 and adverporter.
You then jumped at them with your high horse.
I was just telling you that you are wrong to dismiss their complaints and explaining to you what the issue is.
Were you talking about pin ups, animation testing, and side projects? Nyl probably works on multiple to avoid burn out or getting bored on a project, so he throws out non major works. I never knew someone getting something free would complain about getting content lmao.
People complaint about free shit all the time. And the notion that if something is free it is beyond reproach is ridiculous
 
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I hate people like this. MF knows nothing about the process of 3D making, especially human rigging, especially animating anything, and animating humans is the hardest of all (except maybe liquids).

10 sec video may take days/week, 5 min it's 1-3 months, ONLY IF you know what you're doing

And you sitting on, lets be real, a pirate forum, getting all for free, and STILL manage to complain...
It pisses me off the most...
It does not take 3 months to make 5 minutes of animation.

Take a look at Azure Limina. Pretty new (and fairly skilled) animator. For the past several months they have made a 3-5 minute video. Every month. They also have a day job. There's plenty of other animators that can pump out 10 sec loops every couple of days as well. IMO, you have no business opening a paywalled account (patreon etc) if all you create are loops. It's low-rent grifting work at best. People getting thousands of dollars for hobby-level of work is ridiculous.

I like Nyl's work. It's excellent - when he actually does something that is not a 5-sec loop or some picture he made in an hour. Go look at his Patreon. He finished the MK threesome back in Jan of 2021. For the entire year and 5 months of 2022 (almost a year and a half) he released nothing but short loops and some pictures. $20,000 a month for that? Glad I stopped supporting him. At least he's released a few things as of late but he needs to officially cancel the gorgon animation he is clearly never going to finish.
 

LordLegolas

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It does not take 3 months to make 5 minutes of animation.
At Nyl's level? it does. I saw the artist you mentioned, he is good, but not even close. And for some artists 3 months are too
generous (hi Wildeer Studio :p ). To be fair, before 2022 Nyl did long anims ones a year. In 2022 we already have 2 and he releasing something in between

And those 16k a month, I think many of them are GeneralButch's refugees. Nyl almost the only one left doing something similar on that lvl
 
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Let's not pretend that most Rule34 animators release (some) of their stuff for free because they are just such good guys. They simply know that trying to paywall everything won't work, and getting your stuff out on the web is free patreon (subscribe star\whatever) advertisement. Well, the smart ones do that. The dumb ones lock everything, get exponentially less money, then make crying posts\threaten their own supporters when the stuff inevitably gets leaked.

Also, the general thread when it comes to nsfw projects\artists is that as the amount of money goes up, the speed of the releases goes down. Dunno if its the same with Nyl2, haven't monitored him all that closely.
 

LordLegolas

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Again going back to what I said, I'm no position to make this criticism, I'm not a supporter of his. Just some things I wanted to point out (y).
I know, I increased the time to 3 months, looking at all the artists that I know and took the average, I guess. But almost non of them makes over 1 minute videos.

And I think Nyl switched to fulltime not so long ago. And knowing how artists brain works he probably examines every scene and every frame for clipping and bugs, this alone could take days for big projects
 
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Cry?
It wasn't even me who initially complained. It was buster909 and adverporter.
You then jumped at them with your high horse.
I was just telling you that you are wrong to dismiss their complaints and explaining to you what the issue is.
I don't dismiss their complaints, they are completely free to have their opinion and voice it. But when people act as if the content is lazy/bad because it doesn't fit their taste then I'm going to respond and call them out. You share their opinion so I'm not sure how the initial response shields you.

You said that the "issue" surpassed taste, pretty much saying that it's objectively bad and you deserve better content. That's textbook entitlement. Nyl is by far the best 3D porn animator out there and you're butthurt that his talents aren't being used in a way that you'd prefer, just admit it already.
 

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But personally it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when folks jump to the defense of any creator so vehemently. Though its not as bad with Nyl community thankfully.
I usually agree with this, white knights rushing to defend a developer isn't my thing either. But Nyl makes some fantastic work and people still find a way to complain. I've stated my opinion in other threads too, were I said that I liked the art but it was a shame it was exclusively interracial. If I were to complain about it or be entitled, then I'd get shit for it too.
 

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Hi, forum noob jumping in here, just posting for a friend, but he told me he comes here for the critiques of the work, not for the critiques of someone else's critique.
 
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I know, I increased the time to 3 months, looking at all the artists that I know and took the average, I guess. But almost non of them makes over 1 minute videos.

And I think Nyl switched to fulltime not so long ago. And knowing how artists brain works he probably examines every scene and every frame for clipping and bugs, this alone could take days for big projects
Let's be real, he could take longer and it'd still be ok since the base tier costs 1$... It's nothing.
Small scenes?
9-15 minute videos were literally SMALL SCENES?!

1) Corporate training (Rikolo)
2) Donation (both)
3) Sindel Cassie Sonya
4) Wonder Woman & Power Girl
5)
etc.

Those are masterpieces! Each ove are unique, voiced every single second, perfect positions, creampies. Just perfection.
And what do we have now?!
Like 15 seconds lopped crap, with no nothing. Just useless lazy job.
There's a difference though. Rikolo charges 10$ for each video, Nyl is 1$ a month. There's literally no reason to complain about Nyl's schedule, content or whatever... y'all are ridiculous.
 
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hater45

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Small scenes?
9-15 minute videos were literally SMALL SCENES?!

1) Corporate training (Rikolo)
2) Donation (both)
3) Sindel Cassie Sonya
4) Wonder Woman & Power Girl
5)
etc.

Those are masterpieces! Each ove are unique, voiced every single second, perfect positions, creampies. Just perfection.
And what do we have now?!
Like 15 seconds lopped crap, with no nothing. Just useless lazy job.
You do know that 3 and 4 were from short scenes stitched together right? He would release those scenes between 30 secs to 1 minute and 30 secs and then add one or two scenes in the final movie when he put them all together? I believe he stopped doing that because it kind of ruined the whole full length when you've already seen every single scene that was in it in parts.

The thing you guys are moaning about was how he normally did things lmao.
 

LordLegolas

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Because now this is completely garbage.
Idk what in the hell are you talking about anymore. He literally did 2 40sec previews for the last Bordello, but it's wips, not releases. The rest are just Pin-Ups, he always did pics and small loops. But instead of one 7-8 min vid in a year, now it's 3-4 videos for 3-5 mins
 

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Finally, someone with brain speak the truth!
Just remember videos 9-15 minutes with great models, positions, creampies, even with some plot!

And what do we have now?! Not bad 5 minutes with 40% of sex in it? Or 15 seconds of nothing.
Great job.
god fucking damn it, are you the same guy that keeps getting banned?
 
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