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Can we not refer trans people to a fetish? Trans people are real people, and aren't a walking fetish. A trans woman is a woman, and if she's lesbian, then she's lesbian. If you aren't into trans women that's totally fine and valid, you don't have to date us or sleep with us, and none of us are going to force you to do so. But we aren't a fetish, we're humans. Or do we start to refer men and women as a fetish now too? You a lesbian and into women? Well, that's a neat fetish you've got there. See how stupid that sounds when your identity and humanity is boiled down to the point of being a fetish?
Reading myself back it does sound like I'm referring trans people as a fetish. I apologize, I was clumsily talking about voyeurism in that case, watching someone masturbate.
My sexuality is constantly labeled as a fetish or a kink, it would be very hypocritical on my part to participate in this. I will edit the original post. Sorry again.
It IS optional.

You need to be on Dana's route to see it and you find out about her penis in the first episode.

Which means if you saw her fuck a woman YOU picked to see it.

In fact, you picked to see it several times because that's her third optional scene.
Oh, that's worse.

I thought they were making an actual complaint not whining about seeing a penis for a whole second.
Correct me if don't understand your point. In your mind, someone going out of their way to be on a OPTIONAL path and complaining about it is a valid complain? But someone who complain about something NON OPTIONAL is not a valid complain?

Everybody have different tastes and kinks. I'm very consistent in my criticisms. In my view, anything sexual should be optional, it is more inclusive that way. You can go back and read my all of my previous posts on this website if you want/don't believe me, they are more or less about the same thing.
You can trivialize that scene all you want, it is still forced content.
You, as a lesbian, like seeing dicks? Good for you, I don't. Realistically speaking you probably just don't care about it but I do.
You can disagree with me it's fine, lesbians are not a monolith we can have different opinions.
I personally think it not controversial to expect no dicks (I have no problem if it's optional) in a lesbian game but the more time I'm spending on this website, I'm slowly realizing that the lesbian community is almost as dick craze(<-- hyperbole) as all the "straight" men complaining about lesbian content and asking for "more dicks and less pussy".
 

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Can the site make a rule to not have ratings be "This has potential?" A lobotomy has the potential to cure you. The Black Dahlia Murder has potential to be solved. Hitler had potential to be an upstanding citizen.

All you're saying is "I liked the 7 images that are in this minuscule release of a game."
The first chapter was 336 images.
 
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Everybody have different tastes and kinks. I'm very consistent in my criticisms. In my view, anything sexual should be optional, it is more inclusive that way. You can go back and read my all of my previous posts on this website if you want/don't believe me, they are more or less about the same thing.
You can trivialize that scene all you want, it is still forced content.
You, as a lesbian, like seeing dicks? Good for you, I don't. Realistically speaking you probably just don't care about it but I do.
You can disagree with me it's fine, lesbians are not a monolith we can have different opinions.
I personally think it not controversial to expect no dicks (I have no problem if it's optional) in a lesbian game but the more time I'm spending on this website, I'm slowly realizing that the lesbian community is almost as dick craze(<-- hyperbole) as all the "straight" men complaining about lesbian content and asking for "more dicks and less pussy".
It's good that you clarified that was hyperbole, I was tempted to question you whether you were implying that the lesbian community is overwhelmingly bisexual or full of chasers... except of course hyperbole implies there's a basis, and the basis here'd be... people being ok with non-op trans women in lesbian games? Games having both lesbian and straight content? Like, what are you saying? (Is that really what you want to say?)
Optionality is a good idea, in the abstract. It's not really feasible for everything in every game or even good storytelling - it means everything needs to be player-initiated or signposted and means a lot of stuff is just impossible (prior relationships for one). I'm an even bigger fan of content declarations (or tags or content warnings or whatever else you wanna call them) - I was a teenage exocolonist (non-adult game) is a great example of implementing that, with broad overall warnings, that you could then zoom in on with more explicit contextualizations and explanations (what kind of violence is done by whom to who). More games should do that! Almost none do, and faulting a lesbian game for that while ignoring every other game...
Barring those detailed declarations (that I advise!), we work with expectations. With a game in 2025, two female side characters kissing should be within expectations. If that upsets you, that's on you (may I suggest therapy? Or the countless things you'd rather do, except posting here :giggle:). In an adult game, walking in on someone masturbating... uh, oof, actually, whatever.
And here's the crux of the matter - if it had been a cis lesbian, you wouldn't really have been upset, right? Would you really complain if your main character in a lesbian game non-optionally walked in on a love interested flicking her bean? Like, honestly?
If you don't want to see a penis in an adult game, that's fine. ASK! "Hey, so this game is tagged lesbian, but has a futa/trans tag, are all dicks optional? I mean not just intercourse, but everything" - you'll probably get some dipshit responses, but fuck them. And yes, be clear - fucking and walking in on somebody are extremely differerent things, for most people. And lesbian doesn't mean cis-lesbian. If you think it should 1. it shouldn't, 2. at least be clear that you think that, don't hide it.
Failing the clarification of expectations, yeah, you'll be treated like the dipshits triggered by two women kissing. Cause lesbian means being a woman attracted to women, which includes trans women. My condolences.

(Like, seriously: I can understand the impulse, but: Is what you're writing really what you want to say?)
 
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Just finished the newest update & I must say Faye stole my heart. I love Devi's attitude, but Faye is dommy mommy. I have a weakness for bad bitches (ㅠ﹏ㅠ).
 
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Can the site make a rule to not have ratings be "This has potential?" A lobotomy has the potential to cure you. The Black Dahlia Murder has potential to be solved. Hitler had potential to be an upstanding citizen.

All you're saying is "I liked the 7 images that are in this minuscule release of a game."
Report them and check before if they following the rules.
 

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but Faye is dommy mommy. I have a weakness for bad bitches (ㅠ﹏ㅠ).
tenor.gif Bad Diavel, bad!
I won't let them take it, it's mine all mine.
Sorry Avaron it's already started, they even cut your scene in the Lord of the Rings where after placing your hand on Frodo's shoulder you say to him "And you will have my sarcasm"
 

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I partially agree with the first part of your comment, trans women are not a fetish, but scientifically and biologically they are not a woman,They are a Trans woman and will be until we are capable of altering our DNA, Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against trans people if that's the life they choose to live, and i see nothing wrong with adding them to a lesbian AVN as long as it can be optional.
It's all about choices and variety, making a novel tailored to a larger variety of people. and so far that one trans woman has worked in this novel.
We identify as women. But none of us are going to claim we are biologically the same as cis women. Trust me, we're all painfully aware that we aren't. That's what makes us trans in the first place. I guarantee you, if you ask any of us politely and respectfully if we see ourselves as being the same as cis women biologically, we'll all give you the same answer just as politely. No. We might not biologically be women or girls, but it doesn't make us any less than them. All we ask for is if not understanding, then at least respect enough to let us live our lives, where 99% of us mind our own business and never bother or hurt anyone else.
 
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There is nothing else.

Malady, the MC, is a lesbian. No interest in men.
yeah i know i just stated it havent heard of anything about any men sex scenes or heard of anything like that or that there would be any choise being with any men either i have played all the Updates so i knew i havent seen any Men.
 
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