VN Ren'Py Occultus: The Craving [Ch.6 Rev1] [BC]

[c3p0]

Several reasons.
1: She is able, and willing to take you under her wing, and teach you to become stronger and better.
2: She is right about vampires not reaching their potential.
3: You get to kiss her feet.
4: She is the one that made you, so you should have a stronger bond with her by defaut.
5: She's hot

1) So, you will become like her. No, thanks
2) And?
3) And you always will a pawn on her chessboard and a slave to her
4) And?
5) She isn't, she's rotten to the core

And also obviously, as Ava has written, she is no Ash.

 

[Pinnedyr]

Several reasons.
1: She is able, and willing to take you under her wing, and teach you to become stronger and better.
2: She is right about vampires not reaching their potential.
3: You get to kiss her feet.
4: She is the one that made you, so you should have a stronger bond with her by defaut.
5: She's hot

yeah PASS. ASH FOR ETERNITY. ( MIC DROP )

 

[HoneyMonster]

Wouldn't really work.

None of the girls are big on sharing and most of them don't get along to the point some of them want to kill each other.

Besides that, a harem in this setting would just be weird.

And how did you work out it would be weird to have a harem, If mal becomes strong like her sire then she would be prime to have multiple girlfriends/wives/lovers, so a small harem of 3 or 4 would fit her well. and since her sire is crazy as fck it would fit even better to help in stopping mal going crazy, Either way with or without a harem it all works

 

[Pinnedyr]

Several reasons.
1: She is able, and willing to take you under her wing, and teach you to become stronger and better.
2: She is right about vampires not reaching their potential.
3: You get to kiss her feet.
4: She is the one that made you, so you should have a stronger bond with her by defaut.
5: She's hot

but in all seriousness it would be be good to be taken under the wing by your Creator A BIG IF she wasent a Huge psycho who Killed and Force Turned the MC. yeah Bond can be beneficial or can totaly fk you and control you give you Pain make your life misrable. she may be right about vampires not reaching the highest potential but at what cost is the question.

 

[c3p0]

And how did you work out it would be weird to have a harem, If mal becomes strong like her sire then she would be prime to have multiple girlfriends/wives/lovers, so a small harem of 3 or 4 would fit her well. and since her sire is crazy as fck it would fit even better to help in stopping mal going crazy, Either way with or without a harem it all works

Because the game isn't written that way since day 0 (even more the previous Occultus DoD wasn't either), so having this harem mindset on this game is just weird (in my eyes).

 

[Avaron1974]

And how did you work out it would be weird to have a harem, If mal becomes strong like her sire then she would be prime to have multiple girlfriends/wives/lovers, so a small harem of 3 or 4 would fit her well. and since her sire is crazy as fck it would fit even better to help in stopping mal going crazy, Either way with or without a harem it all works

Because it's not designed as a harem.

Not to mention the story would need to introduce entirely new characters to fit that because, as I said earlier, none of the love interests shown in this or returning from the previous game are interested in sharing.

 

[HoneyMonster]

Because the game isn't written that way since day 0 (even more the previous Occultus DoD wasn't either), so having this harem mindset on this game is just weird (in my eyes).

Mal was not a vampire in DOD so yeah it would not make sense there, but to have a small harem now she is a vampire and a seer also is not wierd,

Because it's not designed as a harem.

Not to mention the story would need to introduce entirely new characters to fit that because, as I said earlier, none of the love interests shown in this or returning from the previous game are interested in sharing.

just because it's seems not designed that way yet does not make it weird to have a small harem, and as previously mentioned members of a harem dont need to get along, as for needing new characters to incorperate a small harem is bull crap, you could use the exsisting characters, like Ash, Bronwyn and devi, do not need new characters to give mal multiple lovers/girlfriends, there have been no signs that the three characters i just mentiomed would not share, Vampires view sex and relationships differently than humans do, that has been shown when mal was first taken to the vampire club dressesd as a pet/slave and made out with the hunter in front of?? can not remember her name but she owned the bar and gave mal a place to stay after ashes death, so it would work and would not be weird. So easy to incorporate, but not really needed.

 

[Avaron1974]

Mal was not a vampire in DOD so yeah it would not make sense there, but to have a small harem now she is a vampire and a seer also is not wierd,

just because it's seems not designed that way yet does not make it weird to have a small harem, and as previously mentioned members of a harem dont need to get along, as for needing new characters to incorperate a small harem is bull crap, you could use the exsisting characters, like Ash, Bronwyn and devi, do not need new characters to give mal multiple lovers/girlfriends, there have been no signs that the three characters i just mentiomed would not share, Vampires view sex and relationships differently than humans do, that has been shown when mal was first taken to the vampire club dressesd as a pet/slave and made out with the hunter in front of?? can not remember her name but she owned the bar and gave mal a place to stay after ashes death, so it would work and would not be weird.

Ash certainly doesn't share, point of fact she dumps Mal in the first if she sleeps with anyone else.

Devi certainly doesn't share.

Bronwyn wouldn't let anyone else touch her woman without tearing their throat out.

It's like you've completely ignored their personalities.

Vampires in whatever media your thinking of may think differently about relationships but the vamps in this have shown very traditional relationship values.

Vel didn't mind Mal fucking the hunter because Vel wasn't in a relationship with Mal at that time.

You're trying to push a harem into a game not aimed at being a harem, it aint gonna happen.

 

[HoneyMonster]

Ash certainly doesn't share, point of fact she dumps Mal in the first if she sleeps with anyone else.

Devi certainly doesn't share.

Bronwyn wouldn't let anyone else touch her woman without tearing their throat out.

It's like you've completely ignored their personalities.

Vampires in whatever media your thinking of may think differently about relationships but the vamps in this have shown very traditional relationship values.

Vel didn't mind Mal fucking the hunter because Vel wasn't in a relationship with Mal at that time.

You're trying to push a harem into a game not aimed at being a harem, it aint gonna happen.

i am not pushing anything, i never asked for a harem, im just saying it would not be weird as mentioned by someone else, i might be on a different path to you becaues i have not seen any signs no other vamp would not share, as for ash and mal they slpit because mal changed when she was turneed into a vampire, same for mal and vel, that relationship turned bitter once mal bacame a vamp. no mal and vel were not dating but val was most interested in having mal, it is all explained by mal herself, It had nothing to do with mal sleeping with anyone else, As for bronwyn, she has changed so yeah it could easily work. just accept if the dev wanted it they could easily do it, But it is the dev's choice if it ever happened and NO im not pushng for a harem because it was not me who asked about a harem path, im happy without a harem

 

[Dr.TSoni]

She's tortured Devi for years, she can't be trusted.

and she is intent on torturing Mal until she cooperates.
Also She is not Ash

members of a harem dont need to get along

So you propose that Mal goes full Cerys

 

[c3p0]

...as for ash...

I believe Ava was talking about Ash from the first Occultus and she breaks up if you sleep with another one. Don't remember it myself, but I trust Ava to don't hurt me, if I stay on her good site.

 

[HoneyMonster]

and she is intent on torturing Mal until she cooperates.
Also She is not Ash

So you propose that Mal goes full Cerys View attachment 5616783

No i do not propose anything, i never asked for a harem path, that was someone else, im just stating that it could work, as for cery's that would never work because mal does not like or trust cerys, so mentioning cerys is just stupid

 

[HoneyMonster]

I believe Ava was talking about Ash from the first Occultus and she breaks up if you sleep with another one. Don't remember it myself, but I trust Ava to don't hurt me, if I stay on her good site.

I don't remember that part either, been a while since i played DOD, will go back to it and see what i forgot.

 

[Sigrsim]

but in all seriousness it would be be good to be taken under the wing by your Creator A BIG IF she wasent a Huge psycho who Killed and Force Turned the MC. yeah Bond can be beneficial or can totaly fk you and control you give you Pain make your life misrable. she may be right about vampires not reaching the highest potential but at what cost is the question.

All the things that you consider bad, when it comes to Faye, I consider good.
Her being controlling, cold etc is what makes me like her. Vampires should not be carebears.

 

[Avaron1974]

as for ash and mal they slpit because mal changed when she was turneed into a vampire,

In THIS game they split when Mal changed. In the first game the only way to be on Ash's route was to start it before she "died" and stay faithful.

She won't stay with Mal if she sleeps with anyone else between her "death" and Mal finding her all vamped up.

Same for pretty much all of them.

members of a harem dont need to get along,

Then that's not a harem, that's Mal cheating on several people.

As for bronwyn, she has changed so yeah it could easily work

Ahhh, delusions. If you think Bronwyn, a Vamp well documented for not liking others very much, would be willing to share with said people she doesn't like, I have a lovely timeshare I could sell you.

just accept if the dev wanted it they could easily do it,

I don't need to accept anything of the sort.

A harem would only work if we ignore the plot, characters and setting.

If butchering the characters to fit a weird fucked up harem fantasy is what people want, count me out.

Personally, i'd rather jam a cactus up my vagina than see characters I adore watered down and sanitised to fit a shitty harem scenario.

 

[Rehwyn]

Ash certainly doesn't share, point of fact she dumps Mal in the first if she sleeps with anyone else.

Devi certainly doesn't share.

Bronwyn wouldn't let anyone else touch her woman without tearing their throat out.

It's like you've completely ignored their personalities.

Vampires in whatever media your thinking of may think differently about relationships but the vamps in this have shown very traditional relationship values.

Vel didn't mind Mal fucking the hunter because Vel wasn't in a relationship with Mal at that time.

You're trying to push a harem into a game not aimed at being a harem, it aint gonna happen.

I don't need to accept anything of the sort.

A harem would only work if we ignore the plot, characters and setting.

If butchering the characters to fit a weird fucked up harem fantasy is what people want, count me out.

Personally, i'd rather jam a cactus up my vagina than see characters I adore watered down and sanitised to fit a shitty harem scenario.

While I think a full-on harem wouldn't fit, I think that the setting and several characters are a lot more open to casual CNM than you seem to be interpreting.

It's mentioned several times, including by Vel, that sex is a more casual affair for vampires than for humans compared to sharing blood. There's the hunter group sex scene. There's a later scene where under certain situations Mal can watch Vel and Sylvia have sex where Vel comments that the hint of jealousy is part of the fun. If you're on Ash and Vel's paths mid-game, Vel does make the comment about 'bowing out gracefully', but my interpretation of that scene was her offering because being Vel's ghoul might have been interfering with Mal's relationship with Ash in an unnatural way by influencing Mal's emotions.

There's some limits, but you actually can sleep around quite a bit until basically picking your ending with the Librarian's choice. That includes picking Ash even if you've slept with multiple other people before that, so I wouldn't say it's accurate that she dumps Mal if she sleeps with anyone else.

Furthermore, if you pick Vel's option at the Library, the vision that you get is basically that Mal might have a harem or at a minimum many lovers in her life.

Later on, if you meet certain requirements, every LI except Trin gives consent for Mal to have sex with Lucille as well, and that's after they are calling each other girlfriend. And it's implied that there's an open invitation for Mal to bring her girlfriend by next time for a threesome with Lucile instead.

So while I agree a full harem would feel weird for multiple reasons, more casual CNM or small polycules wouldn't feel out of place to me.

 

[BeCe]

So while I agree a full harem would feel weird for multiple reasons, more casual CNM or small polycules wouldn't feel out of place to me.

Because that's more or less what I'm going for. Ghouls/Humans are basically playthings for vampires, so those relationships aren't treated seriously and sex/hookups with them aren't going to bother vampire LI's too much.

As for vampire x vampire relationships, it would depend on the vampires involved. Like Ash, for example, has definite issues with Cerys, Bronwyn and Dana but not Devi.

 

[Avaron1974]

Also, later on, if you meet certain requirements, every LI except Trin gives consent for Mal to have sex with Lucille as well, and that's after they are calling each other girlfriend. And it's implied that there's an open invitation for Mal to bring her girlfriend by next time for a threesome with Lucile instead.

That's not because they are open to sharing, that's because Lucille is a hot celebrity people don't get the opportunity to bang.

So while I agree a full harem would feel weird for multiple reasons, more casual CNM or small polycules wouldn't feel out of place to me.

Casual sex works, it did in the first one but it also blocks relationships.

That's the point I was trying to make.

Casual sex is fine but none of them want a relationship involving multiple people.

A harem implies a relationship between the MC and the girls involved. That's what wouldn't work. Sure, they don't view sex and relationships the same as normal folk do but all the vamps are territorial, suspicious and a little bit selfish. In the case of Devi, a tad anti social to boot. Bronwyn isn't a big fan of some of the vamps Mal can get involved with. Ash hasn't been one for sharing at all since the first game. Dana doesn't get along with anyone and isn't exactly in the good graces of half the cast. Not sure if Vel is a love interest in this but she doesn't trust anyone and no one trusts her. If Peggy is a love interest, she is also on the anti social side of things.

Going by how they all get along with each other, the only possible throuple as it stands right now would be Peggy and Devi. They are the only 2 that get along.

Edit - Be brought Cerys up so sounds like she might be a LI. There is no chance in hells sweaty anus anyone is going to be want to be near her so any chance of a throuple+ is out. A few want her dead, most want to avoid and Bronwyn is related and would probably rather ride a cactus.

 

[Rehwyn]

Because that's more or less what I'm going for. Ghouls/Humans are basically playthings for vampires, so those relationships aren't treated seriously. As for vampire x vampire relationships, it would depend on the vampires involved. Like Ash, for example, has definite issues with Cerys, Bronwyn and Dana but not Devi.

Cool. That's definitely the read I had gotten, that certain combinations might be fine with CNM or maybe even poly, but personality and other clashes make a full harem unrealistic.

Also potentially good news for me since I was with Ash at the end of DoD and have done stuff with Devi in The Craving.

 

[BeCe]

A harem implies a relationship between the MC and the girls involved. That's what wouldn't work. Sure, they don't view sex and relationships the same as normal folk do but all the vamps are territorial, suspicious and a little bit selfish. In the case of Devi, a tad anti social to boot. Bronwyn isn't a big fan of some of the vamps Mal can get involved with. Ash hasn't been one for sharing at all since the first game. Dana doesn't get along with anyone and isn't exactly in the good graces of half the cast. Not sure if Vel is a love interest in this but she doesn't trust anyone and no one trusts her. If Peggy is a love interest, she is also on the anti social side of things.

Going by how they all get along with each other, the only possible throuple as it stands right now would be Peggy and Devi. They are the only 2 that get along.

Edit - Be brought Cerys up so sounds like she might be a LI. There is no chance in hells sweaty anus anyone is going to be want to be near her so any chance of a throuple+ is out. A few want her dead, most want to avoid and Bronwyn is related and would probably rather ride a cactus.

Mostly accurate, trying to build the game around a bunch of anti-social hot women who hate each other but have to save the world. How they feel about each other may change, but only in ways that make sense.

There won't be any harems, there may be a poly situation or two if played right and there will definitely be threesomes.