Just saying, man. I really want for your game to be real and awesome, but i guess you can call me a sceptic. And too many people lie about these thing so you got to understand us as well..
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What skips your attention though Mr sceptic Mastermind is that this market is very dependent on psychology. The beginning of this work is good and it could work, even if the chances in your opinion are slim. Now... if you and others repeatedly point out your doubt that it will work, then it simply won't stand a chance, cause you made sure it never got one.
I hope I made myself clear, I thought it'd be easier to explain. Just let it go, let it be. Live and let live. Do not support if you do not believe in it, but please remain quiet as the dev has not proven to be guilty of anything and perhaps deserves a chance.
Thank you.
You got me wrong, but that's ok, my fault for not elaborating more. Thnx for words of wisdom. Power of the Thought
. I am actually commenting and expressing my sceptisism because i want this game to happen, and i know the best way to see if that is ever to be is for people to donate, so do that, guys p.s. I rarely ever comment anything here, that speaks a little how much i want this, and how much i dont want it to be a scam.. All the best for all of you in this unprecedented times
Oh yeah i dont know the actress ? Varvara Abramova (Варвара Абрамова) we have seen her VK
and her posts about the game . as far as i know and i have had some russian friends search around too
she has not done anything nude only normal fashion modelling
Maybe she has some nude photos somewhere that is not the point I am trying to make
the question was and always will be will she do hardcore pornography or not ?
Because by the way you are evading these questions makes it look like there wont be
nothing more than teasing and some softcore implied "sex scenes"
Also you are releasing this game here not out of the goodness of your heart
so dont give us the take or leave it speech you released it here because you want supporters .
They way you act is making people skeptical so people ask questions .
And the way you avoid those questions or give super vague answers people have even less trust in you .
We have witnessed and are witnessing many scammers that milk their patrons .
And since you have not even given the people a taste of what your game could be
people have the feeling that you want to scam them too . That is normal human behavior .
Answer questions or dont I frankly dont care anymore because
as far as I am concerned you have shown us your true face already .
Also calling out the users like this is really really not doing you any favors
Mate i have a suggestion.
Do not release the game for free here. Thats a good way to lose financial support. Yes, the game will eventually be pirated here, BUT if you get to the point that there will be any nudity at all, people wont have the patience to wait for it to leak here and a good amount of them will subscribe to your patreon, so you can keep the project going. Having real life actors to shape the game as you like is innovative and not some cheap rip the images off a movie style game
I have to agree.
I usually don't check out real porn games because the ones I did were just mashed up mainstream porn which does nothing for me. With my limited knowledge I assume that this is the first game of it's type and I always think that it at least deserves some respect that the dev took a risk on something new and innovative.
What caught my attention here is that the pictures were actually so good that I couldn't tell from the hover over preview if it was 3D renders or real pictures. The photographer is defintly talented and the images have great lighting and overall asthetics in colors and contrasts. The photography is more sensual than you see in most mainstream porn and really deserves praise.
I understand that there have been a lot of bad instances of devs scamming but if any one has the right to aggresively ask for support it is for this game. I think most people underestimate the overall effort and financial overhead there is in producing such high quality photography while matching a story. On it's baseline it is way more cost expensive compared to what most other games here start out with and I think is fair to assume the dev is taking a financial risk.
If you don't think you can trust the dev that's perfectly reasonable and nobody wants to force you to pay. But please stay respectful to a person who is taking a risk by trying to bring us new an innovative content. It is fine to voice your concern in a respectful way but it doesn't make sense to repeatedly spam this thread with the same sentiment while questioning everything the dev says. I'm not referring to any one person specifically but more the general way this thread has been developing.
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You should update you patreon's "about", it says :
amazing and hot, well, it's yet to be proven. If you need support "urgently" I don't see this project last long. Patreon can take months or years to have a decent support to only cover monthly expenses. And you have actors to pay
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You got me wrong, but that's ok, my fault for not elaborating more. Thnx for words of wisdom. Power of the Thought
p.s. I rarely ever comment anything here, that speaks a little how much i want this, and how much i dont want it to be a scam.. All the best for all of you in this unprecedented times
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As I said, I'm not referring to anyone specifiaclly or trying to bash people. Personally I think you were very respectful in stating your opinion and as I said that's totally fine.
When going through the thread I realized that the overall picture was rather confrontational and leaning to the negative side. I imagine that must feel bad when you are clearly investing a lot of effort and attention to deatil into your work. The last response frome the dev also sounded a bit like he was getting frustrated for that reason.
That's why I was trying get people to think about that side aswell and realax a little on this thread.
As I said, I'm not referring to anyone specifiaclly or trying to bash people. Personally I think you were very respectful in stating your opinion and as I said that's totally fine.
When going through the thread I realized that the overall picture was rather confrontational and leaning to the negative side. I imagine that must feel bad when you are clearly investing a lot of effort and attention to deatil into your work. The last response frome the dev also sounded a bit like he was getting frustrated for that reason.
That's why I was trying get people to think about that side aswell and realax a little on this thread.
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VIGOR Games Please keep at it and don't be discouraged. If there's one thing you've done, is get everyone talking. If a well-shot real-porn VN that isn't based on stock photos actually takes off, it opens up all kinds of possibilities. It's definitely a pioneering idea.
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VIGOR Games Making an adult game with sex scenes is not mandatory, there are some of them here in the forum, but you should put the 'no sex' tag then. If I'm honest, I'm very sceptical about there will be real sex scenes in this game too, I see it very unlikely, why the actress would do that for a couple of bucks?
My advice is to use some filter that makes the photos look like digital 3D characters and for the sex scenes hire someone to do realistic renders and animations based in the look of the model, like this guy https://f95zone.to/threads/daz3d-art-show-us-your-dazskill.4764/post-3233159.
Real models are a huge hook and a big innovation for this kind of adult VNs, I would say that many people will get interest in this, but the people will not believe in that she is going to do real sex scenes, so the people will not support you. If you do what I propose you, and you say something like: "I want to do realistic animated renders based in her look and to achieve that I need support to hire an animator for those scenes, then maybe you will get a lot of patrons". Doing renders based in a real person, I think will be a huge hit, even more when is a person who actually appears in the game. And perhaps you also could say something like: "if this game is a great success, I'm planing to hire a real porn star for my next game or even for some scenes in this one." But the uncertainty is not good for you and the game, you must present a realistic project.
My advice is to use some filter that makes the photos look like digital 3D characters and for the sex scenes hire someone to do realistic renders and animations based in the look of the model, like this guy https://f95zone.to/threads/daz3d-art-show-us-your-dazskill.4764/post-3233159.
Real models are a huge hook and a big innovation for this kind of adult VNs, I would say that many people will get interest in this, but the people will not believe in that she is going to do real sex scenes, so the people will not support you. If you do what I propose you, and you say something like: "I want to do realistic animated renders based in her look and to achieve that I need support to hire an animator for those scenes, then maybe you will get a lot of patrons". Doing renders based in a real person, I think will be a huge hit, even more when is a person who actually appears in the game. And perhaps you also could say something like: "if this game is a great success, I'm planing to hire a real porn star for my next game or even for some scenes in this one." But the uncertainty is not good for you and the game, you must present a realistic project.
i tried to look for it on google but it seems her vk.com (russian facebook)
where she posted about the game is private or something because i can not find it anymore
but on the first site post 14 is what she posted and the translation
and i think she made some more posts
she also had a lot of modelling photos on her vk i wonder why its gone now
maybe she got in trouble with her family or something ... I hope not because that would suck for her
but then again advertising that you are in a porn game on social media
might not be the best because everyone you know will learn about it
try this vk link it is from the "photographer" of the game he made a post on 4th of march about the game
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After reading through all of these posts and comments... Is it possible that these actors / actresses haven't finished all of theses scenes already? I mean why take the time to shoot all the content and not finish a scene fully.
I understand the game and story development and cropping hundreds of images from the video you shot and release in a build up. But I personally am here for the sex. I skipped every bit of text waiting to see if these two are going to get it on.
Sorry just being upfront with all of you.
I've downloaded this game 2x in 24 hours thinking there was an additional update. BTW:
I LOVE THE DUAL STORY LINE... That is awesome. But maybe include at the end of each update a "What's coming in next update" like MOS does.
Photography and videography is top notch, I was on the side of not knowing if the cover image was a render...
Just let your audience know if this thing is progressing to a porn game or if it's just a visual novel with some teasing in it so people will shut up and leave you alone. Make your content the way you want to make it. Just be upfront about where the game is leading so people don't become disappointed with your content.
Keep rocking.
I understand the game and story development and cropping hundreds of images from the video you shot and release in a build up. But I personally am here for the sex. I skipped every bit of text waiting to see if these two are going to get it on.
Sorry just being upfront with all of you.
I've downloaded this game 2x in 24 hours thinking there was an additional update. BTW:
I LOVE THE DUAL STORY LINE... That is awesome. But maybe include at the end of each update a "What's coming in next update" like MOS does.
Photography and videography is top notch, I was on the side of not knowing if the cover image was a render...
Just let your audience know if this thing is progressing to a porn game or if it's just a visual novel with some teasing in it so people will shut up and leave you alone. Make your content the way you want to make it. Just be upfront about where the game is leading so people don't become disappointed with your content.
Keep rocking.
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You can no longer change them??
That's a load of bull shit. Introducing one nude scene will not spoil your Oscar winning story.
The story can suggest whatever you want it to suggest, After all you are the one writing it.
With so many people/customers asking about the content that is planned, you could at least provide some teasers, but no. I guess the plan is to milk the patrons till chapter 4 and then abandon ship.
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The Dev asks for support for his game, but does not give clear answers to the players' questions. Interesting.
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Very interesting start, the fp sure is hot, a skilled photographer and a new and original concept. Congrats to the dev(s) for that
I'm not into real porn games but this is quite a different and promising category. Looking forward to see more!
I'm not into real porn games but this is quite a different and promising category. Looking forward to see more!
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It is Revolutiory idea. If she will play her role futher (sex, hardcore ect) There will be no better game.
LOL, looks like my insistence in asking the question of whether there's any validity in the use of the "real porn" tag or not has started a bit of a war in this thread. Whoops...
Here's my opinion, FWIW: People are way more likely to positively review and financially support your game if you're being completely honest and upfront about its contents. No one likes being given vague promises than can be taken back without notice, and then being asked to donate anyway. People are defensive with their money; they want to get what they paid for, and you can't really blame them for that.
This is further complicated by the fact that this game is a one-of-a-kind, one where humans are hired instead of 3D models being used, with all the messiness that dealing with humans entails. Being the unproven concept that it is, people are going to be even more skeptical than usual and demand to see even more evidence that you're willing to deliver on your promises.
Telling people to keep the donations coming because sexual content could be right around the corner, even if you're actually sincere about it and everyone in production is on board with it, still comes off as massive bait. You can't blame people for being super skeptical about it when it's known for a fact that the main actress has never posed nude let alone done anything hardcore before. If she's actually willing to go all the way for the sake of this project, that will be awesome, but in the meantime... throw us doubting Thomases a bone, show us that she means business. If, on the other hand, she's not willing to have sex on camera... just be honest about it. You'll still be able to make money from people who will be satisfied anyway, and you won't have mislead anyone.
Here's my opinion, FWIW: People are way more likely to positively review and financially support your game if you're being completely honest and upfront about its contents. No one likes being given vague promises than can be taken back without notice, and then being asked to donate anyway. People are defensive with their money; they want to get what they paid for, and you can't really blame them for that.
This is further complicated by the fact that this game is a one-of-a-kind, one where humans are hired instead of 3D models being used, with all the messiness that dealing with humans entails. Being the unproven concept that it is, people are going to be even more skeptical than usual and demand to see even more evidence that you're willing to deliver on your promises.
Telling people to keep the donations coming because sexual content could be right around the corner, even if you're actually sincere about it and everyone in production is on board with it, still comes off as massive bait. You can't blame people for being super skeptical about it when it's known for a fact that the main actress has never posed nude let alone done anything hardcore before. If she's actually willing to go all the way for the sake of this project, that will be awesome, but in the meantime... throw us doubting Thomases a bone, show us that she means business. If, on the other hand, she's not willing to have sex on camera... just be honest about it. You'll still be able to make money from people who will be satisfied anyway, and you won't have mislead anyone.
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