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Yes, google engrish is harsh, but it could not be understood only by the same as Zoey.
In the Soviet Union, there was such a subject at school - logic. Now he is gone and I think this problem is now not only in Russia.
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A creation will never become a priori masterpiece if it is the same as hundreds of others.

And yes. I don't understand how and why a person with sufficient experience decided to make a game the same as hundreds of others.

As a user with no less experience, I would prefer something else, of which there are 2-3 available, not hundreds.

Of course it must be some kind of extreme/bizarre, yes at least some futa/incest/bdsm... But seeing the big letters NTR in the OP, all interest in the game disappears in advance. Every time i see a discussion of NTR on porn forums, it seems to me that some slow trolls still cannot stop. But here ... but here it is displayed in large colored letters in the OP. FP to Zoey, no more, no less.
It says NO NTR, for people who like or don't like that up front. I still don't understand your point, but I won't further it. I will say this though. I don't think my game is really like any other game. I've never seen this subject tackled by anyone, and tbh I didn't even have that in mind when I decided to write it. I am just writing the game I feel led to write. If you don't like it there are plenty of other games out there for you to try. I'm sure you will find something "unique" to you at some point, or more than 3 games, so that's all I have to say.
 

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So far am I the only one who likes Mary best? I'm wanting a throuple while trying to walk the sober choices, I don't think it will be easy.

That said since this vn is based more in reality than most, I don't think any of the choices will be easy per say.
 

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So far am I the only one who likes Mary best? I'm wanting a throuple while trying to walk the sober choices, I don't think it will be easy.

That said since this vn is based more in reality than most, I don't think any of the choices will be easy per say.
I like that you like Mary. She is very complicated (not that they all aren't to some degree).
 
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I like that you like Mary. She is very complicated (not that they all aren't to some degree).
Touche' she just feels familiar in a real but also endearing way to me. So far there isn't a LI that I don't like yet so that is a bigger plus.
 
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The subject of this history might be a bit controversy for some people but still zoey already said it will be light hearted story, personally don't know why people do this kind of drugs knowing their effects, already tried some kind of drugs(weed, hash, mdma, lsd) but allways stay away from hard shit even coke I refused to try, the only thing I still do is smoke weed but sometimes I'm without smoking it for a year and smoke again and stop again.
So my thoughts about it and sorry if you think I'm harsh on that but everyone sleep on the bed they make, so I don't feel pitty or empathy for them or something like that.
Don't mind it in the game if it isn't too hard on that thing, I was "enjoying it" till the moment that Mary decides to try the needle and you could not do anything to avoid it, I will still keep playing to see were it goes and I wish you all the best zoey.
I do not agree with you in the last part.

Me too having the choice i never help Mary to made is first shoot. But in the reality, I do exactly like the MC do. This is a philosophy and a medical approach generally using in the medical system.

I precise i never shoot myself but i know really well how to do it.

If i give you only two choice and any another one. The guy (or girl) as to be beaten with a stick or with a hand. The option do not beat at all do not exist. The choice is easy. Beat him with the hand.

We are in the same type of situation with Mary. The MC have any good choice. He can just take the less damageable.

He do not push here to do it. He clearly show is disapprobation. But she as made is decision and if he do not help here. She simply try by herself or ask an ignorant.

This is preferable he teach here the good way to do it. If not the risk of injury and infection as more dangerous for is life than the injection herself.

I have really like this scene with Mary. Her show really well the mechanism behind the addiction. This is a simple curiosity for Mary. But this curiosity go fast as the light speed to be transformed in slavery.

With is first shoot. This is like she fall in love for the first time. She want right now do it the day after. But that she do not know that Is new lover do not love her and use her like a simple tool. Because starting right now. Mary have stopped to live for herself. From now she live for is consumption. Anything have more importante now.

The MC as clearly try to warning here. He show to here is objection. But she as an adult and he is not is father. She as made is decision and nothing was changing is mind. If he say no. She simply go to another place with the risk of bad technic going with.

The MC as simply do wath is better for is safety. Because saying no can be worst for here...
 

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I do not agree with you in the last part.

Me too having the choice i never help Mary to made is first shoot. But in the reality, I do exactly like the MC do. This is a philosophy and a medical approach generally using in the medical system.

I precise i never shoot myself but i know really well how to do it.

If i give you only two choice and any another one. The guy (or girl) as to be beaten with a stick or with a hand. The option do not beat at all do not exist. The choice is easy. Beat him with the hand.

We are in the same type of situation with Mary. The MC have any good choice. He can just take the less damageable.

He do not push here to do it. He clearly show is disapprobation. But she as made is decision and if he do not help here. She simply try by herself or ask an ignorant.

This is preferable he teach here the good way to do it. If not the risk of injury and infection as more dangerous for is life than the injection herself.

I have really like this scene with Mary. Her show really well the mechanism behind the addiction. This is a simple curiosity for Mary. But this curiosity go fast as the light speed to be transformed in slavery.

With is first shoot. This is like she fall in love for the first time. She want right now do it the day after. But that she do not know that Is new lover do not love her and use her like a simple tool. Because starting right now. Mary have stopped to live for herself. From now she live for is consumption. Anything have more importante now.

The MC as clearly try to warning here. He show to here is objection. But she as an adult and he is not is father. She as made is decision and nothing was changing is mind. If he say no. She simply go to another place with the risk of bad technic going with.

The MC as simply do wath is better for is safety. Because saying no can be worst for here...
This is spot on for how I wrote the scene, because Mary had already been doing drugs. She was going to try this no matter what the MC did, and he did everything he could to stop her (if you choose that path), but she was going to do it either way, so as was said above he tried to minimize the damage by at the very least showing her the right way, and only giving her a small amount, and watching her to make sure she was ok etc... This was a hard scene for me to write because it made me sad that I couldn't give the MC the chance to stop her because that's not how it would go in real life. She would have just done it elsewhere. She says as much. You can not make someone get high, and you cannot stop them either. It is ultimately their choice. So I gave you the option of the lesser of two evils. If you look at the WT, you get a sober point for trying to stop her.
 
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This is spot on for how I wrote the scene, because Mary had already been doing drugs. She was going to try this no matter what the MC did, and he did everything he could to stop her (if you choose that path), but she was going to do it either way, so as was said above he tried to minimize the damage by at the very least showing her the right way, and only giving her a small amount, and watching her to make sure she was ok etc... This was a hard scene for me to write because it made me sad that I couldn't give the MC the chance to stop her because that's not how it would go in real life. She would have just done it elsewhere. She says as much. You cannon make someone get high, and you cannot stop them either. It is ultimately their choice. So I gave you the option of the lesser of two evils. If you look at teh WT, you get a sober point for trying to stop her.
Sadly I have lived that scene to a certain extent. Not exactly the same in my eyes but it was still the choice of the lesser of two evils. It sucks and has stayed with me for years, like all of the choices of that type.
 
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Well, I played this one, mainly because I saw it was by Zoey, so I'll add my .02$:

Seeing what people act/say/do with an addiction is foreign to me, but it's enlightening to see it from a real perspective. I couldn't personally imagine having to go through all that and being so addicted that you make dire choices as many do. And to anyone who's struggling with this type of addiction, I hope that some help comes your way, no one deserves to struggle like this (and I know that this VN, while backed by personal experiences, is lighter than what I'd expect of a heavy addiction like that).

Now onto the actual VN: I liked the relationship, well, banter and connection the MC and Lydia,
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I know it's just a game/vn but it obviously comes from the heart, plus with all the work Zoey puts in on mods/guides etc I owe it to her to at least check it out. I'll keep following this one as it goes.
 

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Well, I played this one, mainly because I saw it was by Zoey, so I'll add my .02$:

Seeing what people act/say/do with an addiction is foreign to me, but it's enlightening to see it from a real perspective. I couldn't personally imagine having to go through all that and being so addicted that you make dire choices as many do. And to anyone who's struggling with this type of addiction, I hope that some help comes your way, no one deserves to struggle like this (and I know that this VN, while backed by personal experiences, is lighter than what I'd expect of a heavy addiction like that).

Now onto the actual VN: I liked the relationship, well, banter and connection the MC and Lydia,
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I know it's just a game/vn but it obviously comes from the heart, plus with all the work Zoey puts in on mods/guides etc I owe it to her to at least check it out. I'll keep following this one as it goes.
"Him", thank you for trying it. I want everyone to know I'm not going to pull an Acting Lesson's on you. The game has to be true to life or it's not worth writing for me though. The sober path as said in the overview will be the path to redemption (that's not going to happen overnight). The junkie path will obviously go the other way, but both will be true to what happens IRL. I don't want to spoil too many of my ideas, but as I said I'm not going to be pulling any stunts with romanceable characters. Is there gonna be more stuff that happens to them, yes, this is the life and I need to show it esp for that person who might need to see it and find out there is another way. Also to be true to my vision. There will be ups and downs along the way. I can't give away much more, but I hope that helps.
 
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"Him", thank you for trying it. I want everyone to know I'm not going to pull an Acting Lesson's on you. The game has to be true to life or it's not worth writing for me though. The sober path as said in the overview will be the path to redemption (that's not going to happen overnight). The junkie path will obviously go the other way, but both will be true to what happens IRL. I don't want to spoil too many of my ideas, but as I said I'm not going to be pulling any stunts with romanceable characters. Is there gonna be more stuff that happens to them, yes, this is the life and I need to show it esp for that person who might need to see it and find out there is another way. Also to be true to my vision. There will be ups and downs along the way. I can't give away much more, but I hope that helps.
Thanks for the response and I apologize on the "Her", I assumed, and for that I'm sorry.

But in any case, when I played the VN I did have an "AL" type feeling in the back of my mind, thankfully you alleviated any fears of that happening. :)
 

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Thanks for the response and I apologize on the "Her", I assumed, and for that I'm sorry.

But in any case, when I played the VN I did have an "AL" type feeling in the back of my mind, thankfully you alleviated any fears of that happening. :)
Yet you have BaD for you sig. who says someone doesn't get offed in that game? :) There are theories and he's done it before... I'm just messing w you I don't THINK that's going to happen in all honesty.
 
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