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Vollezar

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Yeah... did like this game in the beginning, but not a fan of forced relations. Thought we were going to be able to pick and choose our LI, but Ahn is forced on us. Which is odd, seeing as you gave us a choice with Julie and Alex, but no choice with the MC and Ahn. You just force that one.

Ah well. Guess this just won't be for me then. Was liking this until that happened. Best of luck with your game regardless. :)
Relationship with Anh is not forced. If you ended up making out with her it's because of the choices you made.
 

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Reading some of the comments here I am... Actually I kind of expected this. Glad to see that at least some people are willing to put themselves in the shoes of the characters. Oh well.
Have just played trough this game

But its a bit annoying even if you ignore the female friend and tell her no twice about talking with her

The mc still tells that asian girl i shouldnt have done this im leading you on

Like how is he leading her on... I already ignore that redhead female friend julie

Bit weird
Don't really know how to answer this. The game is about FC and MC and their friendship/relationship. If you didn't get that then I am not sure what else I can do for you to help you. Are you telling me that you have never begged someone for something even if they refused to the first time? She is desperate for him to forgive her.

He felt that he lead her on because he is messed up. On one hand he likes Anh and on the other he is realizing that he might possibly have feeling for FC beyond their friendship. It's messing with his head. And he is the kind of guy who does not like to take advantage of other people's emotions. Anh obviously likes him and is interested in more than just friendship, but he has no idea if he can give her anything more. So he feels that maybe he used her feelings for him just to get a little bit of Boom chicka bow wow (cue the 70's porn tune) which might signal to her that he is indeed interested in more. Luckily she understands that he is in a shitty situation and clears it up for him that this was just a bit of fun and there are no strings attached.
 

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P.S. I suggest that people try to play through all the routes. I have said it before that this game is not about me walking you by the hand through the story. There are no obvious paths. I can't explain it anymore without spoiling things, but let's just say you have yet to choose your LI regardless of what route you have already went through. Your choices so far will matter in the future, but they aren't set in stone like commandments.
 

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Now about Chapter 1: There will be a couple of events that people will not like
The player will also have to play through all of the options to get the whole story or not miss some important piece of dialogue. While some choices have very similar dialogue there are small snippets that characters say that give more info about them or their feelings. Basically pay attention.
 

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so even if you stop Alex the game still acts like you let her grope Julie and if you pretty much ignore Anh the game still thinks your interested in her and whats going on with making the MC bald he looks like and egg
 

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Yup pretty weird how Julie claims to love the MC but gets kissed by Alex and she admits she even liked it

And the MC is angry at Julie for the break up and wants nothing to do with her at one point

But at that college even after you said no to talking with Julie your somehow roped into talking with Julie anyways

Not to mention even after u show no feelings towards Julie ... The mc is still struggling in his mind are u kidding me

He better not fuck up the relation with Ahn caus of that stupid bs with Julie

Also making the MC bald is pretty weird too its like a twin of jake now
 

Vollezar

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so even if you stop Alex the game still acts like you let her grope Julie...
If you stopped she still feels bad for kissing FC. And that's what she is talking about.

and if you pretty much ignore Anh the game still thinks your interested in her...
You haven't refused Anh, yet. She is interested in you and MC does like her. Once again this not a game with Black and White choices. You might not want to bang someone but you can be friends with them.
 

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What if i don't wanna sleep with anyone besides the main female character? i'm specting a choice when the sex scene with the bartender happens. bald mc looks a lot better at least for me; some dialogues seen too forced honestly and why anh, jane, the professor, and the mc roommate are so plane? like give them personality or personal comments or something.

i'm looking forward to this game and love the setting of the releationship. many work to do, but i know it will be worth waiting!

Thanks Vollezar :geek:
 
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What if i don't wanna sleep with anyone besides the main female character? i'm specting a choice when the sex scene with the bartender happens. bald mc looks a lot better at least for me; some dialogues seen too forced honestly and why anh, jane, the professor, and the mc roommate are so plane? like give them personality or personal comments or something.

i'm looking forward to this game and love the setting of the releationship. many work to do, but i know it will be worth waiting!

Thanks Vollezar :geek:
With the bartender there wasn't a choice because of MC's state of mind. His girlfriend just broke up with him because his best friend said the he cheated on her. Plus he's had a few drinks. His judgement is impaired to say the least.

Which dialogue is forced?
As far as personalities go. They already are showing themselves by talking amongst themselves. There is quite a bit that they are already revealing about themselves. They are starting to show what they about through what they do and say to each other.
 

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In general, I like Julie - very pretty face - and the story is interesting so far.

Some suggestions:

1. I don't like that all the girls have low hanging or saggy tits. They are teenagers, for God's sake!

2. Also excessive arching in Julie's spine (esp. lower back) is like she was after decades of anal sex.

3. The text would be better without questionable comments from dev, e.g. how sexy Julie & Alex were standing at the door of the cafe. Comments harm the immersion, and I would disagree that Alex was so beautiful. I'd prefer Jane.

4. I'd like more choice and harem options- but I understand it might require many more renders, so nevermind.

5. Programming could be cleaner, e.g., using True and False rather than "True" and "False".

6. There shouldn't be "MC" and "FC" in the dialogue lines.

Thanks anyway, I'm looking for updates!

PS. I hated Alex's presence in that talk in the cafe, it's like Julie puts herself in opposition to me. If a girl loves me, she shouldn't be more open to random other people than to myself.
 

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Relationship with Anh is not forced. If you ended up making out with her it's because of the choices you made.
Except Ahn and the MC keep talking about how much they like each other and are interested in each other, and the MC keeps having inner dialogue of how he likes Ahn. Even after nothing happens.

I tried both paths. One where I thought I was just being nice (friend wise), but that apparently leads to a forced make out session with her (I'm not talking about the bedroom, I mean when they are talking under the tree) and telling her you are interested and like her. The only other option is to ignore her responses (which seemed rather rude), but it still leads to you telling her you are interested and like her, just without the make out session.

So yeah, that's forced. No matter how you do it, the MC is still interested in Ahn and talks about how much he likes her. Choices don't matter. They just decide if you make out or not, but either way, the MC is still interested and likes Ahn.
 
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Except Ahn and the MC keep talking about how much they like each other and are interested in each other, and the MC keeps having inner dialogue of how he likes Ahn. Even after nothing happens.

I tried both paths. One where I thought I was just being nice (friend wise), but that apparently leads to a forced make out session with her (I'm not talking about the bedroom, I mean when they are talking under the tree) and telling her you are interested and like her. The only other option is to ignore her responses (which seemed rather rude), but it still leads to you telling her you are interested and like her, just without the make out session.

So yeah, that's forced. No matter how you do it, the MC is still interested in Ahn and talks about how much he likes her. Choices don't matter. They just decide if you make out or not, but either way, the MC is still interested and likes Ahn.
You do understand that the game has just started, right? No relationships has been set yet. Not even if you have already ate Anh like she was the last ice cream. And just because they are both interested in each other does not mean they have a relationship. Or even going to.
 
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Vollezar

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Heres to eating Julie like she is the last ice cream.
Alright. Can't do it today, but give me a day or two. I'll dm you.


Also I will have a general update for all tomorrow as to whether I am going to bother anymore. Kind of obvious many people are not interested in the story or where it's going to go (all of the complaints are answerable if you actually played the game instead of clicking through it).There has been very little interest and far too many people expecting the same old same old.I am going to keep writing the story and making images for it, but that's as far as i am going to go with this. And that will be the decision I'll have to make by tomorrow. No point in spending 16 hours a day working on something if no one is interested in it.
 
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With the bartender there wasn't a choice because of MC's state of mind. His girlfriend just broke up with him because his best friend said the he cheated on her. Plus he's had a few drinks. His judgement is impaired to say the least.

Which dialogue is forced?
As far as personalities go. They already are showing themselves by talking amongst themselves. There is quite a bit that they are already revealing about themselves. They are starting to show what they about through what they do and say to each other.
Alright i'll be running doing side by side the game my thoughts about some choices to help you understand me:

The First thing comes to my mind when i say "forced dialoges" is the first scene with the bartender bobbie, u CAN make it a choice. instead of having a few drinks make bobbie stop him, maybe make it have him drink more to justify his sexual scene, make the main character doubt the bobbie invitation... i mean, you can make him still be himself but with some minor choices so the audience of the game feel more in control of his life but still have the same personality of course. im not saying to just leave bobbie with some rude comment because "drunk guy" is hurt but to make it variated? (i understand u want to make a story from ur perspective, but people like me follow some interests too... more choices = more scenarios = more audience)

It is forced because u CAN make a choice in a minor dialogue scene (doesn't have any impact in the game skipping this scene) and if u decide to make multiple ending later on (i'm specting that actually) i will conflict with a complete faithful path from the ex or the main female character even. WHY will u have any interest in having sex with anyone after ur best friend did that? that would remind u of it anyway... but again he was drinking, i guess is justified because he is FORCED to get drunk but not just some drink with his bartender friend u know what i mean?

the interactions with jake (roommate) is another thing, why his skin tone changed from the prologue? i guess thats just have to be fixed. i know, jake says he don't socialize much i think he says, and some weird dialogues like when he's waking up and talk casually with the main character or when he notice julie staring at mike why ask "who is she?" (i think is better to say "you know her?" that makes more sense. but he don't socialize much so ok) and finally: WHY JAKE IS SO OPEN WITH ALEX IF HE ISN'T GOOD SOCIALIZING? WHY HE GOES EXPLAINING EVERYTHING TO ANH AND JANE!? nonsense ( but maybe it will be explained later with who was giving him a blow before).

with anh... there are some choices that doesn't make sense with the outcome: if i chose to ignore anh with "..." and "leave." why in chapter 1 they act friendly regardless my choice? i've been taking choices to make her less flirty or friendly but she's still getting in my room and i'm acepting her flirty compliments? now THAT'S what i call forced. at least make choice for just friendly approaches, i'm not saying that those comments are weird but make the main character mor visually affected by what's happening or the dialogues. like look: if i chose to be cold with anh i get not only the same results from the friendly choices but the same flirty jokes ( chatting with anh in the bench, in a bench with direct sunlight by the way i don't know how they aren't sweating at the very least, why would u want as a hurt person passing for a difficult time with someone you've been trying to avoid in a friendly matter joke about having a date? sure is justifiable by just a weird comment. even worst if before u accept the invitation of julie, is a psichological dilemma if that would possibly happen, i mean it's weird but possible i guess.)

i think the problem i have is more from the dialogues and the outcomes from does dialogues than anything else, making more dialogues for those touching or personal conversations is key to understand those characters. having some advice from ms.sharp to julie with more realistic tone or dialogues, more bro-like friendly dialogues from jake and mike because why he's so open about the personal life of his roommate? like wtf men? some privacy? (a hug between mike and julie after their conversation in the coffee would've been nice to see).

and for the very end. there are some scenes where the character models seem phisically incorrect :unsure:, like their neeks, eyes, some leening scenes are a bit off or too exagerated (especially talking of the coffee scenes and the cafeteria, but there are more). talking again of the bench scene with anh, that ilumination issue of the scene is the one that set me off the most honestly, just sit in the grass in some shadowe place aroung the tree not in middle of the head!

Vollezar Please don't take this the wrong way! i think ur game is really good and i love it! but it piss me off when i see this minor things or interactions not making sense honestly, i hope everything makes sense after or is improve just how u did in the first release to this one. if this post has a response, please mesaage me private. i'll be actually waiting for that! (hope u understand most of it since i just rush the tipyng jaja).
 
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Vollezar

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Alright i'll be running doing side by side the game my thoughts about some choices to help you understand me:

The First thing comes to my mind when i say "forced dialoges" is the first scene with the bartender bobbie, u CAN make it a choice. instead of having a few drinks make bobbie stop him, maybe make it have him drink more to justify his sexual scene, make the main character doubt the bobbie invitation... i mean, you can make him still be himself but with some minor choices so the audience of the game feel more in control of his life but still have the same personality of course. im not saying to just leave bobbie with some rude comment because "drunk guy" is hurt but to make it variated? (i understand u want to make a story from ur perspective, but people like me follow some interests too... more choices = more scenarios = more audience)

It is forced because u CAN make a choice in a minor dialogue scene (doesn't have any impact in the game skipping this scene) and if u decide to make multiple ending later on (i'm specting that actually) i will conflict with a complete faithful path from the ex or the main female character even. WHY will u have any interest in having sex with anyone after ur best friend did that? that would remind u of it anyway... but again he was drinking, i guess is justified because he is FORCED to get drunk but not just some drink with his bartender friend u know what i mean?

the interactions with jake (roommate) is another thing, why his skin tone changed from the prologue? i guess thats just have to be fixed. i know, jake says he don't socialize much i think he says, and some weird dialogues like when he's waking up and talk casually with the main character or when he notice julie staring at mike why ask "who is she?" (i think is better to say "you know her?" that makes more sense. but he don't socialize much so ok) and finally: WHY JAKE IS SO OPEN WITH ALEX IF HE ISN'T GOOD SOCIALIZING? WHY HE GOES EXPLAINING EVERYTHING TO ANH AND JANE!? nonsense ( but maybe it will be explained later with who was giving him a blow before).

with anh... there are some choices that doesn't make sense with the outcome: if i chose to ignore anh with "..." and "leave." why in chapter 1 they act friendly regardless my choice? i've been taking choices to make her less flirty or friendly but she's still getting in my room and i'm acepting her flirty compliments? now THAT'S what i call forced. at least make choice for just friendly approaches, i'm not saying that those comments are weird but make the main character mor visually affected by what's happening or the dialogues. like look: if i chose to be cold with anh i get not only the same results from the friendly choices but the same flirty jokes ( chatting with anh in the bench, in a bench with direct sunlight by the way i don't know how they aren't sweating at the very least, why would u want as a hurt person passing for a difficult time with someone you've been trying to avoid in a friendly matter joke about having a date? sure is justifiable by just a weird comment. even worst if before u accept the invitation of julie, is a psichological dilemma if that would possibly happen, i mean it's weird but possible i guess.)

i think the problem i have is more from the dialogues and the outcomes from does dialogues than anything else, making more dialogues for those touching or personal conversations is key to understand those characters. having some advice from ms.sharp to julie with more realistic tone or dialogues, more bro-like friendly dialogues from jake and mike because why he's so open about the personal life of his roommate? like wtf men? some privacy? (a hug between mike and julie after their conversation in the coffee would've been nice to see).

and for the very end. there are some scenes where the character models seem phisically incorrect :unsure:, like their neeks, eyes, some leening scenes are a bit off or too exagerated (especially talking of the coffee scenes and the cafeteria, but there are more). talking again of the bench scene with anh, that ilumination issue of the scene is the one that set me off the most honestly, just sit in the grass in some shadowe place aroung the tree not in middle of the head!

Vollezar Please don't take this the wrong way! i think ur game is really good and i love it! but it piss me off when i see this minor things or interactions not making sense honestly, i hope everything makes sense after or is improve just how u did in the first release to this one. if this post has a response, please mesaage me private. i'll be actually waiting for that! (hope u understand most of it since i just rush the tipyng jaja).
The prologue, and this was my mistake in not clearing up, was just there to set the story going. No real choices because I wanted to portray, specially for MC, that his state of mind was completely messed up. Wanted to portray that what happened has completely thrown him for a loop. He is now completely alone and does not know what to do or where to go from here. He is so lost he'll take whatever comfort he can.
That's the prologue. Little choice because it is before the game actually starts.

Jake's skin is another issue. As I have mentioned I am only just starting to use Daz3D. I have never done art or anything of the sort before. The original model for him is actually based on a white model. I had to make adjustments to his face and figure out how to make him appear black. I have very little money and at the time I could not afford to buy an appropriate model so I made do with I could. There was also an issue with lighting in some scenes in Chapter 1 that made him look a lot lighter (or MC a lot darker, whatever). Lighting is another thing that is not very easy to do in Daz. I am getting better at it but I still have a long way to go.

As far as Jake's behaviour. He does not explain anything to Anh and Jane. He says that it's no his place to talk about what's going on with MC because it's too personal. And I don't see anything weird with his interaction with Alex. He is not very good at social interaction but he is not completely socially inept nor does he have social anxiety. I am exactly the same way ( to be honest). I am not good socially, not likely to start talking to someone but if it's important I have no trouble talking.

Anh. You are not really ignoring Anh and you are certainly not rude to her. So why would she hate your guts. Aside from that she is curious why you are so sad. She is not 12 and does not think that you avoiding some of the interactions are a sign that you are an ass. She can see that something is troubling you and she is a good enough person (naive even, maybe) that she wants to help you. She can see, as she has mentioned, that you are in pain.


Yes some of the character models are completely screwed up. Specially FC's model (right at the end). That was partly my error, though I still haven't exactly figured what was going on and big part of it was Daz itself. I didn't realize it until I noticed the blue splotches on FC's skin right at the end. After I went through all the setting for her character I realized that Daz (no idea why) was changing her physical proportions in some places and also changed some settings for her skin. by the time I got to that point I was already working for about 30 hours and made nearly 140 renders so I got a bit lazy and decided not to redo at least that part of the chapter. With the other ones (like Jake , for example, I simply had no idea what was wrong so I couldn't redo them). I have, since then, worked on all of the characters and corrected everything I could. Jake is ging to remain as he is in Chapter 1 instead of prologue. As he is in prologue is just not very usable. Since I had to adjust his skin myself it does not work with anything standard that works on Daz (like a dick for example). Just no way to match that skin with anything. Jane was also a mistake, but I'll have to bear with it and find ways around the issues with her.
 
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