If you played the last release of this, the only new bit is for if you failed the race in the water. The bit for winning, or anything else, hasn't been added yet. It is about the MC doing a favor for the LI. You're looking at maybe 5 minutes or less of content.
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That is why a strong case can be made that this kind of review system is antiquated and inaccurate, simply because it does not rate, measurable aspects of the VN, most of these reviewers all subscribe to general rhetorical bullshit statements like, e.g. its gud, I love the milf, i think this game will be gud, so 5 stars... You can't measure what you like about the milf unless you provide context and that means write what you feel is good. The same with predicting or hoping the game does well in the future, you can't measure that, its not relevant to what is in the VN right now, which is relevant. These are just 2 things about what reviewers do wrong, because they simply to lazy to provide a proper contextual review.
You have to take into account that many people lack the ability to give descriptive accounting. In-depth reviews require a decent amount of reading comprehension, along with an ability to transcribe what they see accurately. There's also deductive reasoning involved and again, many people lack the ability to make in-depth deductions simply because their lives in general don't require it. The system is set up so that an average person can give a review, which in most cases, is what the level of the Fandom is.
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Its hard for me to accept that, what are you basing your comment on, what data? Where are the statistics that justify your statements? In either case, to circumvent this, or at least potentially, is to create a review system that asks a few questions about the item being reviewed, in this case a VN so categories might be e.g. World Visuals, Model Visual, Interface & Control, Story, Dialogue and Writing quality. These could be then rated individually and a brief summary of each category should then be provided for the rating. This would, discourage the people you mentioned from posting random, baseless reviews without justification. Meaning those who do review, took the time and ultimately show respect for the developer and the player to provide at least some meaningful review. I am sure my point is made clear in this, better quality reviews are needed. You need quality over quantity.
I disagree with your point. You're putting the blame on reviewers for not providing "proper" reviews, but as I said before, you're overlooking the fact that not every player approaches a VN like a critic or even wants to. Not everyone is interested in breaking down every aspect like visuals, dialogue, or interface, and expecting that level of depth from every user just isn't realistic. Even large platforms do not require that kind of structure for reviews.
They are personal impressions, and it is up to the user how detailed or casual they want to be. For some people, "the milf has a fat ass" is enough reason to enjoy a game.
You mentioned respect for the developer, but I would argue that when someone puts a creative work into the public, they should expect a wide range of responses. Yes, quality is important, but quantity also matters because it offers a broader picture of how the game is being received.
I think the system works as intended. It gives everyone a voice, not just the most articulate or analytical ones. In a community-driven space, that is exactly how it should be.
For more detailed reviews I would recommend users to search in the recommendation forum or on the adult visual novel subreddits.
They are personal impressions, and it is up to the user how detailed or casual they want to be. For some people, "the milf has a fat ass" is enough reason to enjoy a game.
You mentioned respect for the developer, but I would argue that when someone puts a creative work into the public, they should expect a wide range of responses. Yes, quality is important, but quantity also matters because it offers a broader picture of how the game is being received.
I think the system works as intended. It gives everyone a voice, not just the most articulate or analytical ones. In a community-driven space, that is exactly how it should be.
For more detailed reviews I would recommend users to search in the recommendation forum or on the adult visual novel subreddits.
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I am going to point one thing out that I believe you are not considering and that is that your statement that people are not critical where reviewing. That IMO is inaccurate simply because while I have my criteria, so does each other individual, why bother with a review otherwise? While they may praise a VN for one thing I praise it for another or more things. FACT IS we all rate it because we like or dislike it for some reason. THE POINT I AM DRIVING IS, that if you are going to rate it, rate it according to a standard or at least provide clear context why you rate it and not a general rhetorical statement that means little to nothing or provides near zero value. Additionally having the review system provide a more holistic approach i.e. cater for several categories means that you can't skew results/ratings by saying IT LOOKS GOOD. So what? the story can be complete drek? it could be bugged up to the nines? it could have content in it that is not relevant to the player but not listed in the tags like NTR? etc etc. There are many reasons as to why a review should be fleshed out, i.e. the reviewer needs to provide a descriptive reasons as to their rating.
While understanding peoples motives is one thing, perhaps the world should start expecting more from people instead of simply accepting laziness like in this case. If you are going to review, do it properly or don't bother. Or the system needs to change to make it so that lazy people can't review it unless they provide valuable data as to why they rate it the value they do. Its like adding a CAPTCHA to your review system, protects everyone, adds value and discourages stupid lazy reviews...
But lets just agree to disagree
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This is a great game can't wait to see what they get up to when they get back to the hotel room!
Just tried to download this, and it was blocked by my browser. Added adblocker as suggested, and it still happened.
I get the same message and after I caught a virus last year after receiving a similar message, which my anti-virus reacted to and deleted all of my saved files from almost 150 VNs, I will definitely not download something like that again.
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There's many type of VN porn games, you cannot mash up everything with 1 review standardize.
This game defo a Nukige, type of porn game that easily reach 5 stars for it's fan. Because the point of Nukige is to give main character/player the best sex experience. There's no need of reason, plot and deep characteristic. Just boom boom boom, the women see MC cock, she melt and they fucking.
Then there's romance VN like for example Sisterly Lust with in-depth characters, Management VN like for example Mystwood Manor that unlock sex scene via managing hotel, and story focus VN like for example Timestamps: Unconditional Love with great story telling and dialogs. And more type like Meet and Fuck, etc.
Some people felt other game might be progressing to slow, they want quick action. Some people want slow build up in-depth story telling and rewarding with good sex scene. Like if someone like A Wife and Mother game, they can't force me to liking it. It's just too slow. Meanwhile I like Straitened Times that super grindy, I can't force anyone to liking it.
Wanking business is a subjective, not objective.
First, what type of VN that the person prefer. If they like fast pace no bullshit realism story telling, they will rate Nukige game very highly.
Second, Do they love the model and genre. If yes, another star added.
Third, do they care if it's English or Engrish ? Do they care of the music ? The UI. If not, they won't give it negative assessment.
Result, a lot of 5 star reviews. It's been plague since first review system implemented.
This is why when F95 make thread Feedback Wanted: Changes to Review Rules, my suggestion was to turn review into multi-option-scoring system. Like user must fill from 3 to 5 scoring option, then the site will calculate based on the answer in form of star.
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As first time player, I felt like that was a change of writer (for the better) at some point. The early part of the game it's the run of the mill "creepy" mc that we seen over and over again on many VNs out there, with stuff like jerking off on her while she's sleeping, touching her tits (you guess it) while she sleeps on the beach, with thoughts like "we are going to the beach tomorrow, that means bikini", seriously, the mc probably seen her hundreds of time in a bikini throughout the years, why act like it was a first time? It's things like that that made my eyes roll, felt like it was written by a horny 13 year old.
Then, we suddenly had a shift in the writing after the beach, a more mature approach, the mc wasn't as creepy and the milf started to tease as well. Now it wasn't just the mc being forceful, but with consent of everyone involved. I'm pleasant surprised on how the game it's progressing after the shift. I was really close to delete the game early on, now I'm definitely keep my eyes on this one.
Then, we suddenly had a shift in the writing after the beach, a more mature approach, the mc wasn't as creepy and the milf started to tease as well. Now it wasn't just the mc being forceful, but with consent of everyone involved. I'm pleasant surprised on how the game it's progressing after the shift. I was really close to delete the game early on, now I'm definitely keep my eyes on this one.
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Thats all good, I am on board with those ideas, because lets face it the current system doesnt work. I also understand you can't review each game on the same merits, but I am sure a clever enough system can be devised to do so. Maybe a system that prompts for specific criteria based on the game engine ? On the other hand place a NA on visuals or animations for a story/narrative driven game is completely acceptable, that way you imply that that criteria doesnt apply and you can still give it a high rating based on what does apply. Bottom line is there are ways around this and there are better ways to review these games.
I simply feel that a review should have criteria, conditions or parameters that the reviewer should stick to in order to "channel" their review, almost forcing them to provide a decent review that has context and not just throw out a 5 star or a 1 star with stupid comments like "its bad" "its good" "it looks nice" "I think this will be good" or some bullshit statement that ends up screwing the average review.
I also think reviews should have a shelf life of sorts, after a year they should get truncated from the reviews simply because many games become worse with time and it reflects in the reviews only much later or a game has a poor review but has improved significantly but a lot of negative reviews keep new players from even trying it due to the poor score. Any completed, on-hold, abandoned game can keep their review simply because the game has stopped updating.
These are all ideas and this thread is not really the place for it, but I feel pretty strong about the fact that much work is needed on the review system. Something of a side note, but having old reviews "re-reviewed" should bump them back to the top as a new review. The current system does not allow removing of your review and reposting, once you removed it you can't re-review which does not really make much sense at all as you can edit the review...so
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Wow, what happened there
Thanks for spotting that! I'll re-render the scene. I use a script that disables bone rotation limits maybe that's what caused it.
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Thank you!
I'll be honest, I'm not happy with the intro and Day 1/2. I have planned to expand the intro with a proper build-up of their relationship and to re-render the beach and restaurant scenes. Those were made with my old graphics card, and I had to reduce the texture quality a lot, from 8K down to 2K or even lower, just to get them rendered. If you look at her bikini or towel then you'll see in some scenes that they look pixelated.
My plan was to rework those parts once the main plot is finished, but maybe I'll start doing it gradually. With each monthly update, I could replace a few of the older renders or extend the intro a bit. The first impression of a game is very important, and even though I have been getting mostly positive feedback, which I honestly did not expect, the beginning of my game definitely needs some improvements.
This project actually started as a silly idea, and I jumped in without any real experience in 3D or storytelling. I didn't even have a proper outline for the story when I wrote the intro and Day 1. My goal is to create a proper love story, but I also want to give players the option to branch out into a more corrupted path if they choose.