VN Ren'Py Oppai Odyssey [v0.4.3C] [Cryoxxx]

[darlic]

I mean, that's not the argument I'm making... Ofc the dev has the right to do whatever he wants. Never said otherwise. If he wants to add forced vore into the game, it's his call. I'm talking about how making things optional isnt a win/win solution for everyone. Unless the dev decides to increase his workload, people who aren't interested in X content will get less scenes than they would if all the scenes featured content they enjoyed. So people who stick to vanilla would be at loss when a game decides to include more fringe kinks. Thats basic logic, and really all I'm saying.

This logic of yours shows a little fallacy. As I already said, bringing new types of content might upset some, but at the same time bring more audience (as it was the case for myself). And I'm pretty sure the numbers are much more in favor of the latter group.
Think of this "extra workload" as an investment in order to attract a wider pool of players (and supporters, this goes without saying). Also I want to reiterate that the dev wanted to put such content from the very beginning. He might have put a sort of warning or even a list of their future plans regarding the content in the first place, but what is done is done.

My whole argument is that "optional" is not the perfect solution some people seem to belive it is. It's still better than forced content, but it comes with repercussions. You kinda missed the point entirely

Ok, now I got your point and I agree, kind of. This however can be easily addressed by removing the talking point that enables potentially unwanted content and replacing them with some new options and flags in the main menu

 

[Cocona]

What scene did I miss?

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[Pitrik]

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Be submissive to Nyx

 

[cryoxxx]

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You have to lie on the bed during Nyx's scene in the Captain's quarters instead of forcing yourself on her

 

[Cocona]

Be submissive to Nyx

You have to lie on the bed during Nyx's scene in the Captain's quarters instead of forcing yourself on her

Tyvm... I got it...

 

[danvo2004]

Here's my Gallery Unlocker Mod for Oppai Odyssey v0.3.7R

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do you have gallery unlocker for v0.3.8 ? pls share

 

[Lykanz]

Be submissive to Nyx

You have to lie on the bed during Nyx's scene in the Captain's quarters instead of forcing yourself on her

 

[Xegrid]

People love to claim making certain kinks optional is the magic solution that makes everyone happy, when it's far from it for several reasons.

First and most important one is amount of content. People seem to think optional scenes make themselves. No, the dev has to spend his time making them like any other scene, which means less scenes get made for people that don't like that stuff.

Second, the characters have to be written in a way that they'd be willing to do X kink, even if you, the player, decide not to allow it. For instance, even if I take over Pip's interrogation, just knowing what Nix would do already lessened my opinion of her character.

Then there's other problems, like the lack of proper warnings, which this update certainly suffered. Technically, both the tentacles and urination were optional. However, in Nyx's scene, you just have the option to let her do her thing, but you have no idea what that means until it starts happening. For Noel, when I read "beyond extasy", I was just expecting to fuck her silly. Sure as hell wasn't expecting urination.

I'm not angry or anything, just puzzled as to what happened here. This update seemed like a very counscious effort to make the game more extreme. It felt like I was playing a different game, one I didn't sign up for. The whole thing felt so out of place. Pip saying the MC is so "caring" right after he let Nix rape her right in front of him. The "caring" MC calling the sweetest LI a "cum dumpster"? Where's my dialogue option to not be an asshole for that one?

I'll see with the next updates, but if this is indeed the direction this game is going, I wish best of luck, but I'll jump ship. I just hope that whatever direction this ends up taking, it is because of the dev's vision, and not a financial decision, or a group's pressure

haven't goten to play the update yet,(just got back from work) but if it's a choice not properly marked than it is a diferent situation bud, but that can easly be fix with a few extra words on the clickble choice, the "it takes extra time" thing, shure it will take extra time BUT this is how the game was from the start, you have choices from the very start, so since this is how the game was build from the very begining it would be compleat nonesense for the game to stop having them, and as for "does it make sense for the character" what you said is nonesense when it comes to games where you have options to pick for your character, if it's a VN where you have no choices and the mc does some BS that does not fit his character, than yeah i absolutly agree, in fact i love both linear and sandbox multiple choices styles of gameplay, and i myself also comented on the ones that where i have no input the mc does something completly out of character, but on the ones where you have choices on how the mc behives there is no such thing as "out of character", and i will let you have an example, on this very game is the mc a dom or a sub? the answear is whatever the player decided it to be, he has none of his own.

again i understand you are not "angry/upset" at anyone and i think that you are right as far as the devs need to make certain options PROPERLY show that they will result in the kinks that not everyone will be ok with,if the choices are not properly taged than everyone has the right to get upset by them, but does not also mean that "this is it" , and that the whole choice system is bad, you know, but in games where you have diferent ways to "build" your character personality the "*that option does not fit his personality" doesn't rly make sense,there is no option to make him fit MY SPECIFIC CHOICE OF PERSONALITY, well that, that is something else, and if so than that is rly unfortunatly, for you(maybe something to add in the future? but than again i am not a big fan of constantly revisiting old content to "fix it" insted of going forword), or going as far as saying that they are a bad idea because it takes an effort to make them? this argument doesn't rly hold on in a game where from the begining the promise of multiple choices was a thing this game was pushing

 

[heyarnold]

Think of this "extra workload" as an investment in order to attract a wider pool of players (and supporters, this goes without saying).

While I agree that adding new fetishes would increase traffic somewhat, it comes at the cost of alienating existing players who showed interest in the game due to its vanilla content. The sudden change in direction this late in the game's life cycle is alarming, because if it was done due to as you say 'attract a wider pool of players' then in order to keep said new players new content of that variety must be produced. Now if this is the case you have two vastly different demographics to cater to, it may turn into an attempt to please both parties and subsequently failing to live up to the expectations of either.

Also I want to reiterate that the dev wanted to put such content from the very beginning. He might have put a sort of warning or even a list of their future plans regarding the content in the first place, but what is done is done.

If the dev wanted to put said content in from the beginning, they should have put it in the beginning. Doing so would foster a playerbase that is interested in those fetishes and there would be no qualms. Instead the dev has fostered a playerbase that came for and stayed for the vanilla content and is suddenly changing course. Had this shift in direction occurred significantly earlier in development there wouldn't be an issue; players would see the type of game and what future fetishes would be implemented and decide to play or not.

I'm not saying the dev has to do only vanilla content, at the end of the day its their game and their choice. However, I feel like this decision is only tarnishing the reputation that the game has built. If the alleged surge of new players you described is true then there is a split, and it will be difficult to appease both parties. This feels reminiscent to the whole 6v6 vs 5v5 Overwatch argument that happened a month ago, what will happen remains to be seen but one side will lose. Going forward it may be in the dev's best interest to pull a Virtues; adding 'what if' or 'extra' chapters that are separate from the main game and clearly state what fetishes are included.

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

While I agree that adding new fetishes would increase traffic somewhat, it comes at the cost of alienating existing players who showed interest in the game due to its vanilla content. The sudden change in direction this late in the game's life cycle is alarming, because if it was done due to as you say 'attract a wider pool of players' then in order to keep said new players new content of that variety must be produced. Now if this is the case you have two vastly different demographics to cater to, it may turn into an attempt to please both parties and subsequently failing to live up to the expectations of either.



If the dev wanted to put said content in from the beginning, they should have put it in the beginning. Doing so would foster a playerbase that is interested in those fetishes and there would be no qualms. Instead the dev has fostered a playerbase that came for and stayed for the vanilla content and is suddenly changing course. Had this shift in direction occurred significantly earlier in development there wouldn't be an issue; players would see the type of game and what future fetishes would be implemented and decide to play or not.

I'm not saying the dev has to do only vanilla content, at the end of the day its their game and their choice. However, I feel like this decision is only tarnishing the reputation that the game has built. If the alleged surge of new players you described is true then there is a split, and it will be difficult to appease both parties. This feels reminiscent to the whole 6v6 vs 5v5 Overwatch argument that happened a month ago, what will happen remains to be seen but one side will lose. Going forward it may be in the dev's best interest to pull a Virtues; adding 'what if' or 'extra' chapters that are separate from the main game and clearly state what fetishes are included.

I would disagree entirely with the assertion that it is 'late in this game's lifecycle' in fact, I feel quite the opposite is true. Plenty of time for it to keep finding it's audience.

 

[Deleted member 2553135]

I'm not angry or anything, just puzzled as to what happened here. This update seemed like a very counscious effort to make the game more extreme. It felt like I was playing a different game, one I didn't sign up for. The whole thing felt so out of place. Pip saying the MC is so "caring" right after he let Nix rape her right in front of him. The "caring" MC calling the sweetest LI a "cum dumpster"? Where's my dialogue option to not be an asshole for that one?

Yeah, I agree. This update ruined 3.5 LIs for me, so I am going to call it quits. Game started off good with the mostly vanilla stuff, but with the past couple updates, have slowly added too many extreme fetishes for me.

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

My whole argument is that "optional" is not the perfect solution some people seem to belive it is. It's still better than forced content, but it comes with repercussions. You kinda missed the point entirely

I liked your post because You have digged up something which bothers me too with this update.

Optionality makes a game, a game, without that we would have a picture story. But in a sense you are not entirely wrong, I think. Let me Explain.

In the game, one of the LIs, Nyx, intends to rape another one. You have the option to stop it, or let it happen. Even if you do stop it, it doesnt change the fact that she was intent on doing it, which already stained my opinion of Nyx. Yet another example, already in game, that even if you make something optional, in order to fit some scenes, you have to write a character in a way that can be a problem for some.

This scene as an example. I have to put my explanation into spoiler section:

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As if the Option wasn't meant to be there and then and Option becomes a bad thing.
The Problem is not the Option. The Problem is that one of them is "empty".
Therefore, the story makes no sense for my Captain.

Because:

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The Option are only good when they lead to consequences.
So I disagree with you, but in a good way.

My Opinion about the Update:
I can't put my finger on it, but this updates doesn't feel right for me.
How my MC speaks in this update . He is sometimes soooo submissive. Goddess? Worship? Words right from a Domina Porn. Not fitting for my Version of the Skipper. Where is the Captain of the last few Updates? But maybe I am the only one who feels that way.

I started to like Nyx as my Ear slut. But now she is burned for me. That was one rape/intend too much.

I want to be frank here. Besides the sex scenes, the Story and the MC makes no sense to me in this Update. Nyx was in Character, her character is it, which isn't fitting. Something the Captain can solve. He has to put her in Place. Then it could work? Maybe.
Right now she can do what ever she wants, nobody cares. It is annoying. And when the Characters don't care, why should the audience?
The Sex scenes are very Erotic and I liked them. For all the critique I have, I don't regret that I downloaded the Game.
The Updates before that were wonderful. So yeah I believe I will see Updates which are more to my liking again in the future.
So Keep it up cryoxxx .

 

[axxrrl]

What is the mind control in this game?

 

[djura valtr]

me too!

Can i get the sauce from your second banner image?

 

[Pitrik]

Can i get the sauce from your second banner image?

Oppai Odyssey

Is a custom render for the 4th of May

 

[TM | Twisted Games]

Yep, Pitrik knows what's up lol

 

[loikl]

Is he really crying NTR over two harem girls having some fun ? I convinced 90% of people dont even know what NTR is and use it like some buzz word. Had one guy argue with me that a girl showing her tits for free drinks was NTR. <.< If he was memeing, then it would make sense, but he was dam serious.

Hello, just out of curiosity, the NTR that is tagged is 2 girls having fun? (lesbian) and already? that is all?

 

[Kazaim]

Interesting. NTR was added on this....why? Did i miss something? I notice someone's freaking out about Lesbians. Seemingly they misunderstand the definition of what NTR means. I also noticed something regarding "Non-consensual rape"...? I mean. Rape is what it is, rape. Tentacles or otherwise. If you have the Option to Avoid it. Can you call it Forced Event...?

No one else is attempting to bang and steal your Girls, leaving no actual risk or challenge other than your Option to pick a Scene/Event to occur, meaning you have full Control of this. Which spoils you so fucking rotten when there's plenty H-Games where MC's girls gets banged by someone else without you ever having any choice in the matter. But here you have the Choice. Am i mistaken?

And if the Creator wants new Content, and makes it very crystal clear this Game is about debauchery with your MC and his Harem, then can you call any of this forced...? It's about exploring Fetishes, whether the name of the Title is misleading to your or not. It doesn't humiliate anyone when the intention wasn't to do so, but to explore their lives. However much you hate Nyx, Tentacles, Urination, Scat, Vore and whatever.

You can fucking skip the scene, close your eyes while doing so, and if there's any sound that concerns you then mute the damn Client/Program. No one else can control your constant bitching and REEEing, and for the life of me, i can't understand if you're so entitled to complain about Content meanwhile as you are literally God in the Storytelling of the MC. Whether you set yourself in the MCs shoes or not.

Gracious goodness. Enjoy it for what is, skip what you don't want to see and ignore/tolerate the Characters you care more or less about, such as Nyx. Good fapping to you all and bless your horny souls.

 

[loikl]

Interesting. NTR was added on this....why? Did i miss something? I notice someone's freaking out about Lesbians. Seemingly they misunderstand the definition of what NTR means. I also noticed something regarding "Non-consensual rape"...? I mean. Rape is what it is, rape. Tentacles or otherwise. If you have the Option to Avoid it. Can you call it Forced Event...?

No one else is attempting to bang and steal your Girls, leaving no actual risk or challenge other than your Option to pick a Scene/Event to occur, meaning you have full Control of this. Which spoils you so fucking rotten when there's plenty H-Games where MC's girls gets banged by someone else without you ever having any choice in the matter. But here you have the Choice. Am i mistaken?

And if the Creator wants new Content, and makes it very crystal clear this Game is about debauchery with your MC and his Harem, then can you call any of this forced...? It's about exploring Fetishes, whether the name of the Title is misleading to your or not. It doesn't humiliate anyone when the intention wasn't to do so, but to explore their lives. However much you hate Nyx, Tentacles, Urination, Scat, Vore and whatever.

You can fucking skip the scene, close your eyes while doing so, and if there's any sound that concerns you then mute the damn Client/Program. No one else can control your constant bitching and REEEing, and for the life of me, i can't understand if you're so entitled to complain about Content meanwhile as you are literally God in the Storytelling of the MC. Whether you set yourself in the MCs shoes or not.

Gracious goodness. Enjoy it for what is, skip what you don't want to see and ignore/tolerate the Characters you care more or less about, such as Nyx. Good fapping to you all and bless your horny souls.

So the scene in question is lesbian? and that's it? and why so much scandal?

 

[Kazaim]

So the scene in question is lesbian? and that's it? and why so much scandal?

If i am to understand this right. Yes. I read several pages back, and people were complaining about a "Lesbian" scene with your girls. Dude. I'd love it for them to make up, as they prepare for the MC to rail them, as they are sufficiently wet and excited. I mean...it is MCs Harem, right? Can you consider it NTR when they aren't even attempting to steal your Girls? If a Futanari was implemented, or a Male, then the possibility of NTR would be become possible. That is if the Creator allowed such a thing to happen.

Personally. I'd implement it just to spite the fucking shit out of these REEEing children, who has NEVER played or experienced a genuine hardcore NTR experience where you have no control and it is completely unavoidable, even if there's only one scene of NTR, they'd break down into a mess of constant screeching. Like woketards.

Generation Z is incredibly intolerant and pathetic, i swear by all the Gods above...