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I'm not sure if I buy the Riley / Ghostraven theory. Riley seemed very adamant that we should not put ourselves in danger again this chapter. Then, later, after the fight, Ghostraven seems to arrive while we are inside the cage fighting, since she knows we saved Ruth.

Sure, we saved one of her friends, but if she were Riley, I think she would have stayed with us until she was sure we were fine, maybe even tried to scold us for being in a dangerous situation after the conversation we had.

Either she's acting a lot, or they are just two different people.
 
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I'm not sure if I buy the Riley / Ghostraven theory. Riley seemed very adamant that we should not put ourselves in danger again this chapter. Then, later, after the fight, Ghostraven seems to arrive while we are inside the cage fighting, since she knows we saved Ruth.

Sure, we saved one of her friends, but if she were Riley, I think she would have stayed with us until she was sure we were fine, maybe even tried to scold us for being in a dangerous situation after the conversation we had.

Either she's acting a lot, or they are just two different people.
They are definitely two different people
 

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The most I'd buy about Riley for the moment is that she does actually have powers and is hiding them. That much I feel makes sense.

I do see how people think Riley and Ghostraven are the same person, there are many things that can be considered hints towards it, but I'm just not convinced yet.
 

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A crackpot theory I've developed after playing this update is that Riley does have powers is actually secretly working for MCs aunt and her shadow organization for reasons unknown. She is simply being kept out of the loop regarding anything to do with MC to not complicate things

This would fit with all the "hits" of Riley being a superhero, only she's actually unknowingly of otherwise a villain or working with them.
 

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I'm not sure if I buy the Riley / Ghostraven theory. Riley seemed very adamant that we should not put ourselves in danger again this chapter. Then, later, after the fight, Ghostraven seems to arrive while we are inside the cage fighting, since she knows we saved Ruth.

Sure, we saved one of her friends, but if she were Riley, I think she would have stayed with us until she was sure we were fine, maybe even tried to scold us for being in a dangerous situation after the conversation we had.

Either she's acting a lot, or they are just two different people.
Try to look at it this way: this would be the third time MC has jumped into the fray to play the hero. At this point, it's more practical to teach him not to get killed than to try to dissuade him.
 

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Virtually guarantee the "twist" is that the MTF that controls the Sisterhood is the actual "bad guys," not that that would be a surprise. My theory right now is that the Sisterhood, already pretty disillusioned with the MTF, will join MC and the "villains" in taking down the corrupt MTF leadership.
idk, the way the steel lady kills that fleeing dude in the bar fight in cold blood without any regrets, she already aint no batman or superman, more like the Homelander. So any punishment that chokehold gets the steel lady deserves the same, but i guess if youre a man and an asshole it is perfectly fine to murder you with absolutely no repercussions, as has been shown even by MC's actions.
 

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Not currently up to date, and the one i know of that is isn't working right.
DA and BE have a recent port each. The DA port has a fixable (by URM) dead end bug. I dont know if its in the original release too.

Regarding Ruth: hell yes, she was on my to do list (ba dum tss) since her first appearance...
 
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I'd have to search for it, and unfortunately I'm currently short for time, but there was a post a while ago where someone used Photoshop to align them next to each other and used other characters for relative heights and stuff like that. There seemed to be more apparent differences when directly compared like that.
 

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idk, the way the steel lady kills that fleeing dude in the bar fight in cold blood without any regrets, she already aint no batman or superman, more like the Homelander. So any punishment that chokehold gets the steel lady deserves the same, but i guess if youre a man and an asshole it is perfectly fine to murder you with absolutely no repercussions, as has been shown even by MC's actions.
That guy literally tried to murder lady steel. It wasn't cold blood. He wasn't just some rude obnoxious asshole sexually harassing Lake, he tried to kill lady steel then ran when it failed. He could have fled instead of trying to kill her, he'd have been gone and no one would have been able to find him. Live by the sword die by the sword.

The Sisterhood seem to be a legal hero team, everything Ruth has done as part of that team has been legal.
Chokehold, as understandable as her motives are, was simply a murderer.
Also, Ruth has had repercussions when she went on a murder spree in her past, she was in prison ans was willing to do her time till she got recruited into The Sisterhood.
 

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idk, the way the steel lady kills that fleeing dude in the bar fight in cold blood without any regrets, she already aint no batman or superman, more like the Homelander. So any punishment that chokehold gets the steel lady deserves the same, but i guess if youre a man and an asshole it is perfectly fine to murder you with absolutely no repercussions, as has been shown even by MC's actions.
That was a bit cold blooded, but the guy was more than just an "asshole". He was an attempted rapist and attempted murderer (expanding inside Ruth would absolutely have killed her). He could have de-escalated before attempting to kill her and fled, but he didn't. Was it extrajudicial to kill him? Maybe, but we don't explicitly know what the Sisterhood is legally allowed to do. They killed the tiger guy, after all, and clearly faced no repercussions from that.

I feel it also should be pretty obvious by now that the world of OS is absolutely a bit darker and more dystopian than ours. The government essentially has concentration camps where troublesome people are disappeared to, people are forcibly relocated if they have the misfortune of manifesting certain powers, and the "law enforcement" guns down kids with impunity. It really shouldn't be a surprise that the "good guys" aren't Superman and have some moral ambiguity.
 
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It really shouldn't be a surprise that the "good guys" aren't Superman and have some moral ambiguity.
So the sisterhood is literally "The 7" but maybe a bit better. And gunning down perps who no longer pose a threat to you(shoot them in the back) is considered fine and dandy. Using deadly force in self defence is fine, using deadly force in self-offence is not. Interesting game that glorifies such behaviour.
 

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Using deadly force in self defence is fine, using deadly force in self-offence is not.
In our world, with our laws and circumstances, sure. And I'm not saying it's all peachy in OS either.

But this is not our world. Given the powers people can have, the difficulty of detaining people is different, as is the risk of potentially letting an attempted rapist and murderer run free.

Could she have approached it differently and less fatally? Possibly. But to authentically judge the morality of any action in OS, you need to reconsider your ethical frame of reference.
 
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Could she have approached it differently and less fatally? Possibly. But to authentically judge the morality of any action in OS, you need to reconsider your frame of reference.
To me the dumb shtick that main girls can do nothing bad is indicative of bad/sloppy writing.
And thats why i say that morals in OS are fucked.
Asshole men will be slain without repercussions, but if it's a girl? my goodness she can be fixed, so let me get those velvet gloves to not hurt her.

Also, terminal velocity of a phone is ~60km/h. so that might kill, but definetly wont penetrate as if it's an iPod in a dock. And terminal velocity can be reached if the phone is falling for ~2+ seconds, so a phone dropped from an apartment building will have the same deadliness as from a plane.
 
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