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e6mill

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Hmm...what happens if you don't manipulate her? As I chose the manipulate her choice
You just haven't got there yet. Being nice lets you learn more backstory but makes Ev seem like more of a bitch - back when she was 12 so you can't really fault her, but I didn't care for the learning. But it works out about the same either way really - so far.
 

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I always thought scarlet shadow and ghost raven were siblings. Same mask different colors and even there code names are similar. Like ninjas.
Evelyns powers I am assuming they only work when she touches you not you touching her. Due to Ms.Parker touched her and so did Steel she didn't ride them.
 

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Hmm...what happens if you don't manipulate her? As I chose the manipulate her choice, and so far nothing big happened. I guess I should try the other choice. Most likely I will find out in a later update, the results of the manipulating her choice.

But if her personality further softens (as it did when MC was getting her more into sexual acts), I hope there will be understanding from her how much of a bitch she has been to everyone. As I think there is more happening behind the scenes with regards to her story. Or she is just a total bitch that never will fully change, so she will become a bottom rung cock slave for MC. :ROFLMAO:

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On her non-manipulate path, there's a huge discussion in Ch 8 between Lucia and Evelyn mediated by MC where Lucia explains what happened in her past that caused her to bully Ev. Don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it, but it's a really, really good scene.

And if you want a more details regarding how that changes the interaction between MC and Lucia, Ev flat out tells Lucia that if they continue reconciling with each other, she's fine sharing MC with Lucia as long as Lucia feels the same way. And it's subtly hinted that she might join in sometimes too. And later on MC tells Lucia all about his power, she admits she's had a crush on him for 2 years, they kiss, and plan a first date. And as the dev recently mentioned, Lucia is officially promoted from side LI to main LI.
 
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Yes, to afford full sex with Cat you need to take extra cash and then not give any to the homeless woman.
Thank you. I was wondering what choice caused me to miss the Kat pussy scene. Though, I wonder if the homeless girl will have a scene later on? Like homely blonde the girl in detention, who creates a players choice duplicate for MC to have sex with.

And if you pick the hot lesbian movie star, there's a scene later with her I believe. Though, I'm glad we can label our saves. As it looks like multi plays are needed if the player wants to fully see the slight path choices that happen with some of the side love interests.

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Hmm...what happens if you don't manipulate her? As I chose the manipulate her choice, and so far nothing big happened. I guess I should try the other choice. Most likely I will find out in a later update, the results of the manipulating her choice.

But if her personality further softens (as it did when MC was getting her more into sexual acts), I hope there will be understanding from her how much of a bitch she has been to everyone. As I think there is more happening behind the scenes with regards to her story. Or she is just a total bitch that never will fully change, so she will become a bottom rung cock slave for MC. :ROFLMAO:

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Her personality drastically softens, there's a massive dive into her backstory and why she acts the way she does.
Hatchets get buried and people begin to be able to heal and move forward. The chance for old friendships be the potentially renewed, and new relationships to grow

Seems healthiest for everyone involved. Certainly feels better to do this than go the manipulation path and just let things be bad for everyone
 

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Thank you. I was wondering what choice caused me to miss the Kat pussy scene. Though, I wonder if the homeless girl will have a scene later on? Like homely blonde the girl in detention, who creates a players choice duplicate for MC to have sex with.

And if you pick the hot lesbian movie star, there's a scene later with her I believe. Though, I'm glad we can label our saves. As it looks like multi plays are needed if the player wants to fully see the slight path choices that happen with some of the side love interests.

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There isn't actually a variable the records whether or not you give money to the homeless woman. It just deducts 10 funds. And after Cat, you end up with 0 funds regardless. So there's no way to really accurately track if you gave money to the woman after that point, so it's unlikely to come up again. Hypothetically, he could use whether or not you fucked cat to tell if you donated, but you can also choose not to donate and also not fuck Cat, so it's not 100% accurate.
 
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Hmm...what happens if you don't manipulate her? As I chose the manipulate her choice, and so far nothing big happened. I guess I should try the other choice. Most likely I will find out in a later update, the results of the manipulating her choice.

But if her personality further softens (as it did when MC was getting her more into sexual acts), I hope there will be understanding from her how much of a bitch she has been to everyone. As I think there is more happening behind the scenes with regards to her story. Or she is just a total bitch that never will fully change, so she will become a bottom rung cock slave for MC. :ROFLMAO:

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The normal path has lot of differences on the scene(s) with Lucia+Emerald+Evelyn* in the middle of chapter 8.

*Evelyn only appears on the "normal" path in those scenes if not mistaken.

I'm glad I used URM to make a split save changing the luciapath string variable from "manipulated" to "normal" and start playing both paths.

I'm even considering to make my main playthrough the "normal" Lucia path instead of the "manipulated" Lucia path since I enjoyed more the outcome and scenes from it even though the "manipulated" one has a less vanilla/spicier sex scene in it and Lucia for the past behavior kind of deserve it but once I played the "normal" path I understood better Lucia and got empathy for what she had been through.
 
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Though, I wonder if the homeless girl will have a scene later on?
I doubt it. If she had a decent power she wouldn't be so down on her luck. Also, it's my understanding that no var is set if you give her cash, you just lose cash and so don't have enough for the full Cat experience.
 
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Her personality drastically softens, there's a massive dive into her backstory and why she acts the way she does.
Hatchets get buried and people begin to be able to heal and move forward. The chance for old friendships be the potentially renewed, and new relationships to grow

Seems healthiest for everyone involved. Certainly feels better to do this than go the manipulation path and just let things be bad for everyone
It's definitely my preferred route for Lucia as well for a number of reasons.

Regarding it seeming healthiest for everyone involved, the thought occurred to me of what might happen on the manipulate path if MC and Ev learn Lucia's backstory after getting their "revenge". Considering how devastated Ev was just on the normal path, I have to imagine it would be even more painful for her to learn about it late on a manipulate path, unless I'm completely misjudging where that path is going.
 
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The normal path has lot of differences on the scene(s) with Lucia+Emerald+Evelyn* in the middle of chapter 8.

*Evelyn only appears on the "normal" path in those scenes if not mistaken.

I'm glad I used URM to make a split save changing the luciapath string variable from "manipulated" to "normal" and start playing both paths.

I'm even considering to make my main playthrough the "normal" Lucia path instead of the "manipulated" Lucia path since I enjoyed more the outcome and scenes from it even though the "manipulated" one has a less vanilla/spicier sex scene in it and Lucia for the past behavior kind of deserve it but once I played the "normal" path I understood better Lucia and got empathy for what she had been through.
after this update I'm considering my canon route the normal, no question. The other one is fun, but feels kinda shitty with what we know. I still have a save for it, just to see how it plays out.
I doubt it. If she had a decent power she wouldn't be so down on her luck. Also, it's my understanding that no var is set if you give her cash, you just lose cash and so don't have enough for the full Cat experience.
I think that was just a bait to lose out on the full Cat scene, but who knows. May come back to bite you in the ass later.
 

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after this update I'm considering my canon route the normal, no question. The other one is fun, but feels kinda shitty with what we know. I still have a save for it, just to see how it plays out.
Yeah agree, I was already checking the normal path on prior chapters but just using save and load back and change the variable to normal but didn't made the split save. At start of this update I had a gut feeling I should make the split save from the descriptions of the gallery sex scenes that were locked (that I unlocked by loading the saves and run the scenes again) and the new ones from chapter 8 and I'm glad I did it.
 
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Yeah agree, I was already checking the normal path on prior chapters but just using save and load back and change the variable to normal but didn't made the split save. At start of this update I had a gut feeling I should make the split save from the descriptions of the gallery sex scenes that were locked (that I unlocked by loading the saves and run the scenes again) and the new ones from chapter 8 and I'm glad I did it.
ha, I made a save for that shit ages ago, I felt like it was kinda important. But yeah kinda easy to change the variable.
 
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OK, OK, you guys convinced me... you can stop now...

I'm going to replay this... No, no, no, I'm OK, really... I got convinced, there's routes to explore... What? No, you can't help me, no, I have to suffer this terrible fate alone. What? Why would I want a third hand fo........ ohhhhhhhh... but... but... Wait... no, NO... take your clammy cold hand off my................. OK. OK. Thank you for your intention to help, but I can manage with 2, no need for your help. Yes, yes, I'm sure...

Ooof... :: Wipes sweat of brow ::

Peace o_O
 

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Hmm...what happens if you don't manipulate her? As I chose the manipulate her choice, and so far nothing big happened. I guess I should try the other choice. Most likely I will find out in a later update, the results of the manipulating her choice.

But if her personality further softens (as it did when MC was getting her more into sexual acts), I hope there will be understanding from her how much of a bitch she has been to everyone. As I think there is more happening behind the scenes with regards to her story. Or she is just a total bitch that never will fully change, so she will become a bottom rung cock slave for MC. :ROFLMAO:

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The only thing I miss from the Lucia Manipulate route is seeing Ruth with the giant dildo! The look on Ruth's face & what happens to it afterwards is worth seeing it at least once! o_O
 
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Regarding the Ghostraven = Riley theory and the risk of MC/Ev finding out accidentally, do we know what Ghostraven's power is? We're aware of the powers of all the other members of the Sisterhood whether we're likely to fuck them or not, we've been told that she has enhanced agility, dexterity and strengh but that feels more like a byproduct because it's nowhere near Lady Steel's level of strength from what Ruth tells us, she says she's never met anyone with close to her super strength, and she's not exactly lacking in the agility or dexterity departments, so it could be that Ghostraven's enhanced skills are more like Lady Steel's fast healing than her actual power. If her power is that she's immune to other metaviruses so they can't be used on her then it would explain why Riley has no issue being touched by MC, the extreme agility and dexterity could just be a byproduct to allow her to avoid weapons wielded by enemies for example when just being immune to their power wouldn't guarantee survival, and enhanced strength would help her deal with giants for example even if they can't hurt her she'd need to be able to hurt them. It could also explain MC scrying his mom instead of someone he touched, if it was meant to be Riley and her power prevented it happening then it could be a strange side-effect that it pushes the scryer into the relative instead. It would be a way at the end of the story for Ev to be able to spend some nights as her mom if it gets revealed that that's the case.

I'm also wondering if Clara Dawson may enter the game at some point, or maybe she already has, possibly she's Scarlet Shadow given how she has Sofia at her beck and call, if she's still as manipulative as she once previously then that would explain having a pyro have so much faith in her.
 

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game needs a gallery unlock mod
Not really, the clues are pretty clear on what's required, the only one I had to go through with an earlier save was to get the Lucia manipulation scene with and without Amber, the variations of the projections (with or without Moonsong can be done with simple rollback as can Ev taking control with Anna and Arwen) and I only have two saves that covered everything else:

MC thinks with dick: takes Moonsong up on offer straight away, takes extra money and doesn't give to homeless girl, chooses Isabelle because it's Moonsong's fantasy, manipulates Lucia.

MC thinks with brain: turns down Moonsong because of pact with Ev, takes just the money required and gives to the homeless girl, chooses Anna to make Isabelle more comfortable, normal Lucia route.
 

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My save failed and I had to start all over again, but that was really good because it reminded me of one of the coolest things and scenes I've ever seen in these games, which was the scene where he loses his virginity. In that part, you have a choice: accept the heroine and lose your virginity to her or refuse. The obvious choice was to accept, but when I played for the first time, for a reason I can't even explain, I remembered the promise I made to his best friend to lose their virginity together. So, I went and refused the scene (like a good man who keeps his promises :)) I thought the scene would end there, but it didn't. I was rewarded for that choice since she calls her friend, he loses his virginity to her, and he even has a threesome with the heroine there, in other words, his first time was much better than he thought. When I saw that, I thought it was really cool. It was one of the most rewarding choices I've ever seen. It was definitely worth choosing that. About this update, it was really good to see the protagonist's first time with Ruth. The scene is very well done. It's curious that since the game is about choices, he had to stop her, but unlike the time he loses his virginity, here the choice is very obvious and only someone heartless would refuse her, huh? Well, I made the right choice, but since I'm curious, I went back to the save just to see the dialogue if I refuse her, and it's not at all nice to feel sorry for her since she's heartbroken. Well, overall, I'm looking forward to the next update to see much more of Ruth Evelyn and all the other girls.
 
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