VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.8.2] [JDOR]

[dpx79]

Maybe that's the point. if he is to powerful and sisters cant save him, then he is going to need help and in swoops this "aunt". but as i said still to early to know or as fatgaint would say cart before horse

 

[HiP1]

We still need to see what will be the limitation for his powers. We already know per the game's lore if a super is deemed too dangerous they are taken out by the autorities very fast. This could happen to Jack if this accumulation of powers has no limits.
I don't think the author will just forget all that to turn the game into a generic power fantasy.

we begin to see some hints of his limits.
seems he gets all the powers but not as powerful as the original. for now it passes as him not having mastered the power. he can't make more than one clone, he has a weaker psychic bond with his wolf, he can't choose his host, could have less control or energy output from the "green stuff"(TM)... also, having the wolf out drains him, so it's probably the same when he uses the other powers, and he gets limited like that. a bit like some kind of mana reserves. though he doesn't seem tired when drained.

Amber's invisibility might be related to her emotions. maybe she gets visible the better she feels. so a big orgasm will make her stay visible for a few days though she masturbates often, so it might have to be with a partner. some kind of feeling of being loved ? feeling seen ?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

we begin to see some hints of his limits.
seems he gets all the powers but not as powerful as the original. for now it passes as him not having mastered the power. he can't make more than one clone, he has a weaker psychic bond with his wolf, he can't choose his host, could have less control or energy output from the "green stuff"(TM)... also, having the wolf out drains him, so it's probably the same when he uses the other powers, and he gets limited like that. a bit like some kind of mana reserves. though he doesn't seem tired when drained.

Amber's invisibility might be related to her emotions. maybe she gets visible the better she feels. so a big orgasm will make her stay visible for a few days though she masturbates often, so it might have to be with a partner. some kind of feeling of being loved ? feeling seen ?

I like this idea. So the more powers Jack tries to copy at the same time the less powerful said copies become and the less control he has over then. That could be a nice way to implement a limit to his powers. And it makes sense, he was able to use the green fire and call that black wolf without any training, but now with more powers he seems to be having less control over them.
This could also open up the possibility of Jack having to choose which powers too keep, which in turn could change how some situations unfold.

About Amber, i don't think it was anything to do with orgasm. She is a stalking voyeur creep, so i doubt she haven't masturbated A LOT.
But it may have some emotional/anxiety component to it.

 

[HiP1]

I like this idea. So the more powers Jack tries to copy at the same time the less powerful said copies become and the less control he has over then. That could be a nice way to implement a limit to his powers. And it makes sense, he was able to use the green fire and call that black wolf without any training, but now with more powers he seems to be having less control over them.
This could also open up the possibility of Jack having to choose which powers too keep, which in turn could change how some situations unfold.

About Amber, i don't think it was anything to do with orgasm. She is a stalking voyeur creep, so i doubt she haven't masturbated A LOT.
But it may have some emotional/anxiety component to it.

MC needing to drop powers, and then keep a pool of girls with useful powers around so he can switch the ones available could be funny as a harem setting

yeah, she already masturbated for sure. and she already ate his cum when they were both aroused, so at that time MC hadn't manifested yet, and we know her power is not related to touching or eating cum
we only know that something might have happened when she kissed him. but did she really reappear briefly or was it just a storytelling thing for fan service ?

 

[Elduriel]

we only know that something might have happened when she kissed him. but did she really reappear briefly or was it just a storytelling thing for fan service ?

I think it could be either, but if I had to guess it would be the first, her permanent invisibility may be more like a mental block over her having feelings for the MC (but not being able to do something about it coz of Evelyn) so when they kissed she temporarily dropped that block. But I'm just theorizing here.

 

[Hungover00]

MC needing to drop powers, and then keep a pool of girls with useful powers around so he can switch the ones available could be funny as a harem setting

yeah, she already masturbated for sure. and she already ate his cum when they were both aroused, so at that time MC hadn't manifested yet, and we know her power is not related to touching or eating cum
we only know that something might have happened when she kissed him. but did she really reappear briefly or was it just a storytelling thing for fan service ?

Having to have a logistics system to rotate powers in and out is such a perfect fit for this kind of harem. Maintaining at least fuck buddy status becomes important then, and it also goes from the MC just becoming Superman, to actually needing tactics, strategy, etc, but be a Swiss-Army Knife of a hero, adaptable and flexible, if a little tired and smelling of sex.

But he'll have to learn how to forget, or run into those hard limits.

 

[HiP1]

I think it could be either, but if I had to guess it would be the first, her permanent invisibility may be more like a mental block over her having feelings for the MC (but not being able to do something about it coz of Evelyn) so when they kissed she temporarily dropped that block. But I'm just theorizing here.

that's what we all hope for, at least. but then it means that if we are not on her path she will get sent off ? or allowing herself to love him freely even without him reciprocating would be enough ?

Having to have a logistics system to rotate powers in and out is such a perfect fit for this kind of harem. Maintaining at least fuck buddy status becomes important then, and it also goes from the MC just becoming Superman, to actually needing tactics, strategy, etc, but be a Swiss-Army Knife of a hero, adaptable and flexible, if a little tired and smelling of sex.

But he'll have to learn how to forget, or run into those hard limits.

yeah, and the most fun would be to prepare his powers depending on the team mates he runs with to complement them in the best way and having to hold sex back during missions to avoid screwing up the available powers and their efficiency ?
the pills could help for local logistics, but it would be funny as hell if he has to stock up on cum reserves for machines around the world that administers cum+hormones remotely while he also takes the blue pill at the same time on the other side of the planet xD

 

[dpx79]

TBH i dont think he can get too overpowered as you already know they have tech that supresses powers and there are always going to be bad match ups with others who are equally if not more powerful then him.

 

[Rehwyn]

we begin to see some hints of his limits.
seems he gets all the powers but not as powerful as the original. for now it passes as him not having mastered the power. he can't make more than one clone, he has a weaker psychic bond with his wolf, he can't choose his host, could have less control or energy output from the "green stuff"(TM)... also, having the wolf out drains him, so it's probably the same when he uses the other powers, and he gets limited like that. a bit like some kind of mana reserves. though he doesn't seem tired when drained.

Amber's invisibility might be related to her emotions. maybe she gets visible the better she feels. so a big orgasm will make her stay visible for a few days though she masturbates often, so it might have to be with a partner. some kind of feeling of being loved ? feeling seen ?

I like this idea. So the more powers Jack tries to copy at the same time the less powerful said copies become and the less control he has over then. That could be a nice way to implement a limit to his powers. And it makes sense, he was able to use the green fire and call that black wolf without any training, but now with more powers he seems to be having less control over them.
This could also open up the possibility of Jack having to choose which powers too keep, which in turn could change how some situations unfold.

About Amber, i don't think it was anything to do with orgasm. She is a stalking voyeur creep, so i doubt she haven't masturbated A LOT.
But it may have some emotional/anxiety component to it.

To be honest, I suspect that the main reason his current version of the powers he's gotten is noticeably weaker than the originals is more a factor of his lack of experience and practice with them than anything else. MC has had powers for all of 1-5 days at this point (depending on the power in question). There's no way he's going to be as good at controlling any of them as people that have had their power (and only their power) to learn and practice with for years. Especially since he hasn't really actively practiced with them yet.

Even in the future, I suspect the fact he has more powers than anyone else to try to learn means he's probably not going to be as good at any of them individually simply as a factor of time limitations, even if there isn't an inherent limitation to his absorbed power. It'd be like trying to learn to be good at every instrument in a band vs focusing on just one.

Of course, if "time limitations" is the main factor, if he gets and can control Lucia's time power he potentially could go DBZ-style Hyperbolic Time Chamber and compress years of training into weeks or days. And he does have a potential head-start if people are willing to train him in how to use their power, which could cut off a lot of time in the learning curve (for example, I suspect he'll have Evelyn's power under control within a couple days, whereas it took her months to learn).

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

yeah, she already masturbated for sure. and she already ate his cum when they were both aroused, so at that time MC hadn't manifested yet, and we know her power is not related to touching or eating cum
we only know that something might have happened when she kissed him. but did she really reappear briefly or was it just a storytelling thing for fan service ?

I think it could be either, but if I had to guess it would be the first, her permanent invisibility may be more like a mental block over her having feelings for the MC (but not being able to do something about it coz of Evelyn) so when they kissed she temporarily dropped that block. But I'm just theorizing here.

Jack was with his eyes closed so my first thought was that he was imagining Amber, but the idea that she may have undone her power for a brief moment without noticing makes sense too.

 

[Just Jericho]

Jack was with his eyes closed so my first thought was that he was imagining Amber, but the idea that she may have undone her power for a brief moment without noticing makes sense too.

I definitely agree with the mental block theory. I suspect the mental block has more to do with her severe depression though. That moment when she was kissing the guy she liked let her forget things just for a moment. I think the moment she realizes that for herself is when the block is gone for good.

 

[Ssato243]

does the hero path have a harem or not?

 

[HornyyPussy]

does the hero path have a harem or not?

Not yet but it's coming.

 

[HiP1]

To be honest, I suspect that the main reason his current version of the powers he's gotten is noticeably weaker than the originals is more a factor of his lack of experience and practice with them than anything else. MC has had powers for all of 1-5 days at this point (depending on the power in question). There's no way he's going to be as good at controlling any of them as people that have had their power (and only their power) to learn and practice with for years. Especially since he hasn't really actively practiced with them yet.

Even in the future, I suspect the fact he has more powers than anyone else to try to learn means he's probably not going to be as good at any of them individually simply as a factor of time limitations, even if there isn't an inherent limitation to his absorbed power. It'd be like trying to learn to be good at every instrument in a band vs focusing on just one.

Of course, if "time limitations" is the main factor, if he gets and can control Lucia's time power he potentially could go DBZ-style Hyperbolic Time Chamber and compress years of training into weeks or days. And he does have a potential head-start if people are willing to train him in how to use their power, which could cut off a lot of time in the learning curve (for example, I suspect he'll have Evelyn's power under control within a couple days, whereas it took her months to learn).

in theory, if the tiger assault was not random, MC could be some kind of origin of all the powers and he doesn't really absorb them, but just gets them back, or reenables them by having his body/metagene remembering each power by coming into contact with it.

 

[Hungover00]

To be honest, I suspect that the main reason his current version of the powers he's gotten is noticeably weaker than the originals is more a factor of his lack of experience and practice with them than anything else. MC has had powers for all of 1-5 days at this point (depending on the power in question). There's no way he's going to be as good at controlling any of them as people that have had their power (and only their power) to learn and practice with for years. Especially since he hasn't really actively practiced with them yet.

Even in the future, I suspect the fact he has more powers than anyone else to try to learn means he's probably not going to be as good at any of them individually simply as a factor of time limitations, even if there isn't an inherent limitation to his absorbed power. It'd be like trying to learn to be good at every instrument in a band vs focusing on just one.

Of course, if "time limitations" is the main factor, if he gets and can control Lucia's time power he potentially could go DBZ-style Hyperbolic Time Chamber and compress years of training into weeks or days. And he does have a potential head-start if people are willing to train him in how to use their power, which could cut off a lot of time in the learning curve (for example, I suspect he'll have Evelyn's power under control within a couple days, whereas it took her months to learn).

Jack of All Powers, Master of None.

 

[dpx79]

I agree with the drain on his power. Doesn't matter how many powers he has because he only has limited energy so he is more of a utility power user rather then op user. Training will help but he will never be too overpowered once he runs out of steam.

 

[e6mill]

I agree with the drain on his power. Doesn't matter how many powers he has because he only has limited energy so he is more of a utility power user rather then op user. Training will help but he will never be too overpowered once he runs out of steam.

But is that energy pool per clone?

 

[HiP1]

But is that energy pool per clone?

we don't know if the clones can use powers themselves.

 

[dpx79]

But is that energy pool per clone?

I would think the clones are like the wolf. Just a extension of himself so i doubt the can make there own wolf but he might be able to use the like drone with say emeralds power.

 

[JJJ84]

Just finished the update (was on a holiday for about 2 weeks and just got back yesterday, and in fact, this is the first zone game that I jumped into when I got back).

And while I liked the previous updates slightly more (I personally prefer it when the game focuses more on the Sisterhood, heh), I still think this was a really good update with development for characters like Lucia and Evelyn.

Some feedback and possibly questions (though probably ain't that many compared to before lol) for Jacquesdor

1) The opening scene with MC & Midnight and the therapist scene as well as the tickle scene, I loved it (it's something I was hoping to see when Midnight first manifested).
Not sure how many of these MC & Midnight talks/therapist sessions will occur throughout the game, but I'd really like it if this becomes an ongoing thing to help MC wade through his dilemmas and inner troubles.


2) Moonsong revealing the further backstory of Ruth/Lady Steel was quite nice.
I feel that all these little things add quite a lot of meat on the bones of a sturdy base of the character (if that makes sense lol).
I hope every other Sisterhood member is given the same treatment in terms of each of their characterization department.


3) Lucia's powers have one major detraction; in which she continues to age while she pauses time.
MC warns Lucia about it frequently which she brushes it off (though I suspect that this aging consequence will inevitably catch up with her sooner or later).

So my question is regarding this power and MC; since this seems to be the path Lucia arc is going for with that being one of the main goals MC has with her route (with the pills now available).
Given how double edged sword kind of ability Lucia's power is, how can even MC properly train with that time stopping power?

Generally, the way to improve on MC's mimicry power would be to practice the power by using it more either through training or real life situations.
With that comes the dilemma given this detraction makes Lucia's power unconventional.
Personally, I doubt aging dampener (to counteract aging during MC's time pause state) is something even Moonsong can create, so is the only option for MC to not train on that power at all, and only use it on emergency situations?
What could possibly be the solution here?


4) Analbel/Annabel from Lucia's trio; her ability is.......She's Blue.
Will there be further explanation on her powers on whether there's more to her powers than that?

Cause based solely on what's written in her codex entry, it feels like a pretty useless power (almost equivalent to a normie imo), and I'm surprised that Lucia with how being a narcissistic bitch she is, lets Analbel in her "popular" group at all.
Given her and Courtney at this point just seem to be background characters to strengthen Lucia's characterization, while it may not be too important for grand scheme of things, it still got me curious.


5) Moonsong's Wolf summon, Tanya/Emerald's Emerald energy & Evelyn's Precognitive Censory Scrying, the mimicry of the partner's power came right away.
But with Cat/Catherine, MC's mimicry of her Multiplication ability didn't come until a day later when MC was having his second sex with Evelyn.
I'm guessing this delay in mimicry ability was due to MC fucking Cat's copy and not the original (even though both has metagenes)?

Will there be other instances where there might be delay in MC obtaining the powers after the sex like Cat's case, but due to different reasons?
For example, perhaps the prostitute that MC has sex with, or even MC himself is high with drugs etc which slows down the mimicry process.


6) Ruth/Lady Steel and Evelyn are both fantastic wingwomen/girl.
But will there be some girls (from main LIs) where MC can get just based on his own charms without the help?

I mean not that I don't appreciate the efforts of Ruth & Evelyn, but if it just becomes the too familiar pattern of MC getting LIs due to his wingwomen all the time, it's gonna get tiring quickly.
I'd say it would be good to be some changes at times at least.


7) Couple of grammar or word mistakes were noticeable in this update, but I think for me, it was particularly this one;

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But regardless, I enjoyed this update Jacquesdor.
So, looking forward to the next update.