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If you were a member of the sisterhood how much respect would you have for moonsong's boy toy who introduces himself as a fanboy and how often he jerks off to their posters?
The same respect you'd give to anyone else without knowing them. It's basic human decency. Treating someone you just met as entirely beneath you, only shows your ego as over-inflated and self-important. He's a fanboy, fine. He was nice to all of them, including at the meeting. So why talk down to him, insult him, and boss him around without knowing him?

It's a character flaw of the women in the game who act that way. It shows power DID go to their heads - exactly what they fear about possibly happening to him. And yet they preach, insult, and order regardless.

Honestly, I think how you approach someone you don't know in life tells a lot about yourself. And it changes quite a bit with age. That may be why we have such a large disconnect out here.
 

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The same respect you'd give to anyone else without knowing them. It's basic human decency. Treating someone you just met as entirely beneath you, only shows your ego as over-inflated and self-important. He's a fanboy, fine. He was nice to all of them, including at the meeting. So why talk down to him, insult him, and boss him around without knowing him?

It's a character flaw of the women in the game who act that way. It shows power DID go to their heads - exactly what they fear about possibly happening to him. And yet they preach, insult, and order regardless.

Honestly, I think how you approach someone you don't know in life tells a lot about yourself. And it changes quite a bit with age. That may be why we have such a large disconnect out here.
I agree for the most part that's how it should be, but I don't think it is in reality. And, the fact that some of the group are open, indifferent, and hostile is pretty real. I generally respect people until though show they don't deserve it. But, there is a difference between basic respect and happily acepting someone that wants to join your elite ranks a day after they get their power and have no training at all. So, their reactions are understandable. And the MC's reaction is too. If he didn't have self doubt that affects his reactions and all the women immediately supported him, it would be an unrealistic and shallow story. People are complex and I like the variety.

I'd also say that you can respect a person, but not respect them being put in a job (or training for one) that they're not qualified for. And so far his resume is pretty much getting his ass kicked. And sometimes when your in situations where your emotions are not in check, people say things without thinking.

Just curious, am I too old or too young to understand? :D
 

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how long is the playtime of just the latest update? i hvnt had time to play v08
1 hour? 2?

cuz some games crosses like 5 hours and i want to play in one sitting
 

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And so far his resume is pretty much getting his ass kicked.
Yea, but the reasons I think are the important thing.

Every time he got his ass kicked it was to protect someone else.

And you have to consider that the fallout would be if he actually fought back using his powers.
The first time he did use his powers Ruth said he likely gave that guy serious brain damage. She took the blame for it.
MC is just a random not an official hero or anything, him beating the crap out of others, even if the defense of people, could have gotten him into serious legal trouble. Especially with how trigger happy the MTF and their supporters are
 

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how long is the playtime of just the latest update? i hvnt had time to play v08
1 hour? 2?

cuz some games crosses like 5 hours and i want to play in one sitting
I'd say about 2-3 hours, but it does depend on which Lucia route you are following (or if you're doing both and if you are doing both if you want to do both in one sitting).
 

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Yea, but the reasons I think are the important thing.

Every time he got his ass kicked it was to protect someone else.

And you have to consider that the fallout would be if he actually fought back using his powers.
The first time he did use his powers Ruth said he likely gave that guy serious brain damage. She took the blame for it.
MC is just a random not an official hero or anything, him beating the crap out of others, even if the defense of people, could have gotten him into serious legal trouble. Especially with how trigger happy the MTF and their supporters are
That's all good for commitment and growth, but not really to say he doesn't need training. And blasting the guy into a coma was because he doesn't no how to use his powers. So, someday he'll be a great superhero (which in AVN terms will be Sunday or Monday). In a nutshell, when he's trained enough that the sisters trust him to help them, without putting himself or them at unnecessary risk, he should have all their respect. He'll probably gain respect from them while he trains and shows commitment and (as of now reckless) desire to help everyone.

In case it's not clear, I'm not saying the MC is bad or anything. I'm just saying that at his current level it is understandable that some of the sisters may not respect him. Which was the topic topic in the thread that started this.
 
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I'd also say that you can respect a person, but not respect them being put in a job (or training for one) that they're not qualified for.
That's all good for commitment and growth, but not really to say he doesn't need training. And blasting the guy into a coma was because he doesn't no how to use his powers. So, someday he'll be a great superhero (which in AVN terms will be Sunday or Monday). In a nutshell, when he's trained enough that the sisters trust him to help them, without putting himself or them at unnecessary risk, he should have all their respect. He'll probably gain respect from them while he trains and shows commitment and (as of now reckless) desire to help everyone.

In case it's not clear, I'm not saying the MC is bad or anything. I'm just saying that at his current level it is understandable that some of the sisters may not respect him. Which was the topic topic in the thread that started this.
My point was in regard to respecting his motives and the why of his getting his ass kicked. He was doing the right thing for the right reasons.

Right now, with no training MC could pretty realistically kill all of the sisterhood with relatively little trouble using his current powers. Were he of a mind to. And that's a big issue. Even besides having no combat training MC is simply reluctant to use his powers. He was started using them, and playing with them, even without actual combat training he'd be brutal to deal with. But he's not.

So yea. He can be respected, as a person. Which in a world full of people with powers, and not all of them good people, that at the start is by far the more important metric.

Like right now, as of the current release, MC would be unstoppable as a villain. He has time stopping powers and powers that give him eternal youth by swallowing sexual fluids, plus super strength.

He could easily go around stopping time and raping countless women to copy their powers, getting more and more powerful in what seems like an instant to the outside world.

But he's not doing any of that. He's only ever been throwing himself into danger for others.

He is worthy of respect. Worthy of being trained.

And you have to also realize, respect aside, the issue here is there are only two noble paths forward for MC.
  1. Gets taken in and trained by the sisterhood. Becomes a hero.
  2. Doesn't get taken in, and is deemed a worthless risk. Allows himself to be killed or imprisoned in a torture prison for life.
The secret third option, which only unlocks in the face of option 2 is to become an unstoppable villain or at least an antihero before anything bad happens him. Which is personally the one I'd go with. No way I'd just lie down and die.
Not saying I'd do the raping villain path I mentioned earlier, but I'd probably style myself after Magneto only killing MTF on sight.
 

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My point was in regard to respecting his motives and the why of his getting his ass kicked. He was doing the right thing for the right reasons.

Right now, with no training MC could pretty realistically kill all of the sisterhood with relatively little trouble using his current powers. Were he of a mind to. And that's a big issue. Even besides having no combat training MC is simply reluctant to use his powers. He was started using them, and playing with them, even without actual combat training he'd be brutal to deal with. But he's not.

So yea. He can be respected, as a person. Which in a world full of people with powers, and not all of them good people, that at the start is by far the more important metric.

Like right now, as of the current release, MC would be unstoppable as a villain. He has time stopping powers and powers that give him eternal youth by swallowing sexual fluids, plus super strength.

He could easily go around stopping time and raping countless women to copy their powers, getting more and more powerful in what seems like an instant to the outside world.

But he's not doing any of that. He's only ever been throwing himself into danger for others.

He is worthy of respect. Worthy of being trained.

And you have to also realize, respect aside, the issue here is there are only two noble paths forward for MC.
  1. Gets taken in and trained by the sisterhood. Becomes a hero.
  2. Doesn't get taken in, and is deemed a worthless risk. Allows himself to be killed or imprisoned in a torture prison for life.
The secret third option, which only unlocks in the face of option 2 is to become an unstoppable villain or at least an antihero before anything bad happens him. Which is personally the one I'd go with. No way I'd just lie down and die.
Not saying I'd do the raping villain path I mentioned earlier, but I'd probably style myself after Magneto only killing MTF on sight.
And Coldsnap knew none of that when she blamed him for Lady Steel's hand. Steel knew none when she started protecting him, but I think respects him now as she knows him better. Most people don't know he has powers at all. I don't remember Coldsnap's reaction at the end of the update, but I'm pretty he gained respect for him.

But, you're saying he should be respected, and all I'm saying is it makes sense to me that not everyone does. I mean in the real world not everyone will respect him no matter how awesome he is. And it's been what, six days since they met him? Some of them he spoke to once the day after he got his powers? Just give it some time and they'll all love him and give him their power.

To avoid temptation (tongue in cheek), I don't think he can stop time and rape people to get powers. Both people have to enjoy it and I don't think she can with time stopped. Maybe he could force feed a pill and restart time. Besides, I don't think he got Lucia's power yet.
 

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To avoid temptation (tongue in cheek), I don't think he can stop time and rape people to get powers. Both people have to enjoy it and I don't think she can with time stopped. Maybe he could force feed a pill and restart time. Besides, I don't think he got Lucia's power yet.
It'd actually be very easily done. He can keep people unpaused with himself, use his super strength and or sapphire power to hold people down. The eternal youth power also comes to features practically designed to force an orgasm out of partners.

So yea, he could easily do it.

Assuming he did get Lucia's power, which I can't remember 100% either way right this moment.
 
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To avoid temptation (tongue in cheek), I don't think he can stop time and rape people to get powers. Both people have to enjoy it and I don't think she can with time stopped. Maybe he could force feed a pill and restart time. Besides, I don't think he got Lucia's power yet.
I'm pretty sure we know he can't, since they have to have the corresponding response, which can't happen if he breaks them (which most likely would happen if he tried to have sex with them, considering just moving people risks breaking bones). Now, stopping time and putting the pill between their lips and hoping they swallow? That at least has some chance of success, but just as bad.

And I think on the manipulation path there's a chance he got it, but he hasn't tried to / accidentally used it yet, so not necessarily.
 
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It'd actually be very easily done. He can keep people unpaused with himself, use his super strength and or sapphire power to hold people down. The eternal youth power also comes to features practically designed to force an orgasm out of partners.

So yea, he could easily do it.

Assuming he did get Lucia's power, which I can't remember 100% either way right this moment.
Remember, it's not just his enjoyment, they have to respond too. They can't just get his fluids on them. So if he unpaused someone and raped them and they had the response, then yes. But he'd have to start killing them too (unless he gets a memory-erase power I suppose), 'cause there's no way that doesn't get out. And with all the regulation and tracking of powers, I don't think it would take long for people who think they can trust him to figure that out.

But yea, it's so far out of his personality though.
 
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Remember, it's not just his enjoyment, they have to respond too. They can't just get his fluids on them. So if he unpaused someone and raped them and they had the response, then yes. But he'd have to start killing them too (unless he gets a memory-erase power I suppose), 'cause there's no way that doesn't get out. And with all the regulation and tracking of powers, I don't think it would take long for people who think they can trust him to figure that out.

But yea, it's so far out of his personality though.
In real life it's actually not super rare for people to actually orgasm when being raped because orgasm in a physiological reaction to stimulus. It actually play a part of why a lot of rapes go unreported, because a lot of idiots think that if the victim orgasmed then it wasn't rape, which isn't true, but the widely held belief adds to the humiliation, self hatred, and trauma a lot of victims and survivors experience.

So with MCs powers, they very likely would "respond".

Regulation and tracking of powers only works when people admit to there powers openly or can't hide what there powers are.

On a path where he's raping people for their powers I don't think killing people left and right would be too much of an issue to be honest.
 

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think if he is going to steal powers it would be by getting the guy's Midas touch power and...err...get his hands dirty and touch someone. But, it's a porn game, so odds are it'll just be sex. Unless he wants to get a guy's power and can't use a pill.

But, unless you can turn off the midas touch, that would be one of the worst powers in the game. Accidentally touch the barrista's hand and they spill your coffee all over you. And they'd have to wait 20 minutes to recover and make another. But I guess it'd bring a whole new meaning to "nice to meet you".
 
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