VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[A360]

Oh no, a developer has a life and doesn't want to work 24/7. This is disaster.

Thing is we're nearing how long since last update? At this point the dev is either milking or the development is now simply too much for them to handle to finish the game in a remotely reasonable time frame. Personally I think it's the latter.


Neither is exactly a good point to reach though and people are going to react to it. Especially with how porn games never get finished or development slows to a crawl because the dev had x happen 4 years previously.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Thing is we're nearing how long since last update? At this point the dev is either milking or the development is now simply too much for them to handle to finish the game in a remotely reasonable time frame. Personally I think it's the latter.


Neither is exactly a good point to reach though and people are going to react to it. Especially with how porn games never get finished or development slows to a crawl because the dev had x happen 4 years previously.

Ignore the Eva white knights. He is acting as if the dev didn't spend 2 weeks on a vaccation just a month ago

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Thing is we're nearing how long since last update? At this point the dev is either milking or the development is now simply too much for them to handle to finish the game in a remotely reasonable time frame. Personally I think it's the latter.


Neither is exactly a good point to reach though and people are going to react to it. Especially with how porn games never get finished or development slows to a crawl because the dev had x happen 4 years previously.

Read my second post below, I wrote about the alleged reasons for the delay.

 

[Doppelgang]

Ignore the Eva white knights. He is acting as if the dev didn't spend 2 weeks on a vaccation just a month ago

Lol, she’s a game developer, not a slave. Of course she takes a vacation every once in a while.

Also, I assume you’re referring to the post where Eva said she was visiting a book fair and taking “a few days off” (while using that time to work on the structure of the story!), but it doesn’t strengthen your argument that you just make up a fake “2 weeks” duration of it.

 

[Doppelgang]

She's sounding more and more like Crushstation every day. Won't be long until she starts deleting chapters to start over because she isn't feeling the artwork. I can't honestly believe that anyone here gives a flying fuck about the animations for a pool mini game. Read the room Eva.

It doesn’t strengthen your argument either that you have to make up some extremely hypothetical “deleting chapters to start over” future scenario to discredit Eva’s work. Also, “animations” for the pool mini games? Where did you take that from? It literally says “a new mechanic”, while also stating that it’s something the programmer is working on. Person A, Eva, writes the episode and works on the art. At the same time person B, the programmer, works on a new mechanic for the pool mini game. That doesn’t affect the speed of the development. I didn’t think that would be rocket science to figure out, but well, here we are

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Been saying it’s always gonna be Sep/Oct.

It was never going to be either. It's December for sure, just before the holydays and then a whole month of doing nothing

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Lol, she’s a game developer, not a slave. Of course she takes a vacation every once in a while.

Also, I assume you’re referring to the post where Eva said she was visiting a book fair and taking “a few days off” (while using that time to work on the structure of the story!), but it doesn’t strengthen your argument that you just make up a fake “2 weeks” duration of it.

She literally says she took "a week off" in

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, so the only person lying here is you with that "few days" bullshit. I also said 2 weeks because that's how long she hasn't posted any status updates before dropping the news of her being at a book fair (

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posted on July 8th and the next one was posted on July 22nd).

"She's a game developer, not a slave" yeah I know, slaves don't get paid but she sure does rack in some good money

 

[Mr_Ainz]

Since February-March I've started coming into this thread every two months, I'm not a patreon nor am I in position to pay if i wanted, but I wait for the update no rush. Here I am enjoying this game for free and moving on. Congrats to eva on making such a good game.

 

[RoboticCatDogHybrid]

Hopefully she comes up with a more reasonable work schedule instead of a erratic one my bros. Aside from her writers block and constant vacations/weddings, if she has a pattern and a deadline she puts on herself, that can probably alleviate these problems. Here's to hoping she sticks to a schedule my bros. And at least we got AOA academys new chapter coming out soon!!

 

[okal]

They may care about the game but her income is not of anyone's concerns. Or would you say more income = faster release?

…yes. Money facilitates improving the rate of progress in a project. This is why startups keep trying to secure more and more funding. It eases the process of getting a product/service out to market. Investors, who get their money back by the company finishing and selling a product, wouldn’t give them their money if that weren’t the case.

 

[okal]

I want to be different.

The chances Lena sleeps with a homeless dude.?

Guaranteed UTI

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

I bet the homeless guy will be the hidden key to destroy the stalker Seymour.

 

[Doppelgang]

She literally says she took "a week off" in

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, so the only person lying here is you with that "few days" bullshit. I also said 2 weeks because that's how long she hasn't posted any status updates before dropping the news of her being at a book fair (

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posted on July 8th and the next one was posted on July 22nd).

"She's a game developer, not a slave" yeah I know, slaves don't get paid but she sure does rack in some good money

So as proof that Eva took two weeks off, you refer to a post where she says she took … one week off? While the “few days off” I mentioned—a direct quote from the Patreon post the week before—is “lying” and “bullshit”? That’s some solid reasoning. Well, thanks for confirming it was just something you made up, then.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Since February-March I've started coming into this thread every two months, I'm not a patreon nor am I in position to pay if i wanted, but I wait for the update no rush. Here I am enjoying this game for free and moving on. Congrats to eva on making such a good game.

Who's burner is this?

 

[dolfe67]

…yes. Money facilitates improving the rate of progress in a project. This is why startups keep trying to secure more and more funding. It eases the process of getting a product/service out to market. Investors, who get their money back by the company finishing and selling a product, wouldn’t give them their money if that weren’t the case.

rate of progress ≠ speed of progress. Some things can't be rushed, CDPR (and a lot of AAA studios) can attest to that. Investors want more than their money back sure, but being too impatient can backfire

 

[lucadiadis]

I wonder what a wedding attended by Eva Kiss looks like. The Bride is already pregnant by her father, though she has also slept with her mother, two full gangs of West Coast Rappers and latino drug traffickers are attending, gangbanging the bride in front of the cuck groom throughout the honeymoon located in a swinger resort....She could make a side game out of it.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

So as proof that Eva took two weeks off, you refer to a post where she says she took … one week off? While the “few days off” I mentioned—a direct quote from the Patreon post the week before—is “lying” and “bullshit”? That’s some solid reasoning. Well, thanks for confirming it was just something you made up, then.

"I also said 2 weeks because that's how long she hasn't posted any status updates before dropping the news of her being at a book fair (

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posted on July 8th and the next one was posted on July 22nd)."

I swear, some people on here just refuse to acknowledge reality.

 

[Joe Steel]

Do you have a tin foil hat I can borrow?

You could always

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[Joe Steel]

Hopefully she comes up with a more reasonable work schedule instead of a erratic one my bros. Aside from her writers block and constant vacations/weddings, if she has a pattern and a deadline she puts on herself, that can probably alleviate these problems. Here's to hoping she sticks to a schedule my bros. And at least we got AOA academys new chapter coming out soon!!

That's not the way art works. Writers write when they can write, and stop when they can't write. It happens to all writers.

EK has bought a metric to of cred by completing more complex game and getting a second to this point. I am positive that she's not trying to milk anyone and would much rather have product out there being praised than have it sitting half-finished on her computer.

 

[Doppelgang]

"I also said 2 weeks because that's how long she hasn't posted any status updates before dropping the news of her being at a book fair (

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posted on July 8th and the next one was posted on July 22nd)."

I swear, some people on here just refuse to acknowledge reality.

Last post on this topic from me, because this is getting ridiculous and is not really about ORS anymore.

Did Eva take two weeks off? Well, she wrote that she was taking “a few days off” in one update (July 22nd), then in the next update she referred to it as “my week off” (August 2nd). Maybe she decided to take a few more days off than she first planned, or maybe it was around five days and both “a few days off” and “my week off” seemed precise enough. Who knows. But that's the information we've got available if we're trying to establish the reality that you, true enough, point out that someone’s having a hard time acknowledging.

I assume you mean that she spent all the time between July 8th and July 22nd on vacation because no status update was posted during that time. But that's just an assumption you make, that rests on the premises that 1) she started her vacation more or less directly after the July 8th update (don’t know what you’re basing that on), and 2) Eva is honest about having some time off, but is lying about the length of the vacation (interesting theory). (For the simplicity of things, let’s not bother about the “using this away time to make some much needed work on the structure of the story” quote, which doesn’t sound particularly vacation-like either.)

So when you’re wondering why someone is “acting as if the dev didn't spend 2 weeks on a vaccation just a month ago”, as you wrote in the original comment, it might just be this: It’s not “reality”, but just an assumption you’ve made on a set of not particularly convincing premises.