JohnnyKiss

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I don't think the Lena x Louise x Jeremy scene is complete. It's too easy to get it and the fact that Ian and Lena are together doesn't matter at all. Which doesn't make sense, considering that Lena was against them being a couple if she played with Jeremy. This was most likely one of the last 3 scenes that Eva worked on. It was good enough for the Alpha, but things won't remain like this.
Lena cheating on Ian with Jeremy was always going to happen. It was inevitable, so it makes sense we finally got that option. If anything, what doesn't make sense is Lena refusing a relationship if she already fucked Jeremy since that goes nowhere and is pointless. She had sex with Jeremy before Ian and her were official so why not? It would actually make more interesting story if she accepts relationship and then tries to avoid Jeremy and inevitable failing to do it.

Another variable that was not used at all during this update is ian_lena_open. Right now it doesn't matter if you agree to be in an open relationship. A good place to use this variable is in the club's bathroom, when Ivy tells Lena that she cheated. Lena could say something along the lines, "in a way I didn't cheat, but I still feel bad about it". Later when they get to Ivy's place they could expand more on that. Ian could even earn an extra point with Ivy for this, considering how she thinks that a normal relationship is not the way to go in life.
Like I said, the game is far less complex than what I expected it to be.
 

BloodyMares

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I have opposite exprience, I can cheats Lena with Emma and still can offer relationship while Lena having fun with Jeremy refuses relationship
I'm talking specifically about Chapter 10. Where Lena didn't fuck with Jeremy to block their relationship. Only texted at best. Before they make a commitment it's not really cheating.
 
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niek07

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Question for BloodyMares:

For the Ian-Ivy scene, you need to get more than 5 relationships with Ian. Those are:
  • Make a joke( Chapter 2)
  • It was super hot (Chapter 5)
  • Come clean before Axel ( Chapter 7), Requirements: [ian_lena_dating = True]
So to get the Ian-Ivy scene you need to be/have been on the Ian-Lena path. Is that correct?
 

BloodyMares

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Question for BloodyMares:

For the Ian-Ivy scene, you need to get more than 5 relationships with Ian. Those are:
  • Make a joke( Chapter 2)
  • It was super hot (Chapter 5)
  • Come clean before Axel ( Chapter 7), Requirements: [ian_lena_dating = True]
So to get the Ian-Ivy scene you need to be/have been on the Ian-Lena path. Is that correct?
Haven't played the update myself yet but asked Eva. Curious what the answer will be.
 
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Canto Forte

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Jeremy is not sharing himself. He is only out to fkk the girls of others. That is why
they all chant his manwhore anthem in the house of Perry.
Jeremy could share if Ian gives in, not himself.
guide for male mc ultima chad route?
I have question! If Ian refused Alison and Emma then Jeremy will have them and send some pics so why he don't send some pics of Lena too if Ian didn't want to be with Lena.
Jeremy is written as a one dimensional NTR bull trope and the constant bully of Ian.
Jeremy only shares pics to brag to Ian after they talk about it. They never talk about Lena.

Jeremy asks and insists on getting Allison even after Ian tells him she is his.
Jeremy is a jerk thru and through, no wonder Ivy is not giving him any unless drugged outta her mind.
 

Gicoo

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I have question! If Ian refused Alison and Emma then Jeremy will have them and send some pics so why he don't send some pics of Lena too if Ian didn't want to be with Lena.
He doesn't have pictures of Lena. He didn't use his phone during the game in front of three girls. He was caught off guard by Lena in Louises bedroom and he may be too occupied with two girls at the same time during the threesome.
 
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Canto Forte

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If Ian does not want Lena, Jeremy never meets Lena outside of already being a cheating asshole to both Ivy, Lena and Louise. So the fact there is a three way with all of them knowing they each are a piece of shit lowest of the low turds to humanity and their friends, drug heads shitting on everything humaine about them, it is all on the gamers who want to see subhuman deranged brain dead turds fkking their lives away.
He doesn't have pictures of Lena. He didn't use his phone during the game in front of three girls. He was caught off guard by Lena in Louises bedroom and he may be too occupied with two girls at the same time during the threesome.
That scene is about the shittiest of assholes - Ivy+Lena+Jeremy.
This game makes absolutely no sense after that. Those chars lost all character development in there.
 

BloodyMares

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Question for BloodyMares:

For the Ian-Ivy scene, you need to get more than 5 relationships with Ian. Those are:
  • Make a joke( Chapter 2)
  • It was super hot (Chapter 5)
  • Come clean before Axel ( Chapter 7), Requirements: [ian_lena_dating = True]
So to get the Ian-Ivy scene you need to be/have been on the Ian-Lena path. Is that correct?
Sorry, I was too focused on the variable and not on the "Come clean before Axel". Actually, axel_knows_dating requirement makes sense since Ian gained a lot of respect from Ivy as someone not afraid to stand up for himself, even in front of an unstable chad like Axel. Plus it's a harmless sparring, doesn't necessarily mean that it will be the only way to unlock more content with Ivy in the future.
 
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Rosequake

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Iirc it helps to masturbate to Holly when you first get the option.
Thanks I’ll try that! It does seem ridiculous though to lock the Lena-Holly-Ivy threesome behind not hooking up with Louisa AND having to specifically fantasise about Holly in a really early scene that gives no indication as to its purpose. Especially the not-hooking-up-with-Louisa thing - why wouldn’t Lena be horny for an Ivy-Holly threesome if she’s already been having sex with Louisa? Not sure if Eva is trying to increase playability or something, but unnecessarily limiting roleplaying opportunities is just bad game design
 

Modsognir

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Thanks I’ll try that! It does seem ridiculous though to lock the Lena-Holly-Ivy threesome behind not hooking up with Louisa AND having to specifically fantasise about Holly in a really early scene that gives no indication as to its purpose. Especially the not-hooking-up-with-Louisa thing - why wouldn’t Lena be horny for an Ivy-Holly threesome if she’s already been having sex with Louisa? Not sure if Eva is trying to increase playability or something, but unnecessarily limiting roleplaying opportunities is just bad game design
Hm, yeah, some things are not really optimal. But tbf, it's a ton of work to make such a project with so many branches work correctly. Haven't played c10 yet, but so far Eva has done a much better job with this than most other devs. Also in GGGB.
 

desmosome

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Sorry, I was too focused on the variable and not on the "Come clean before Axel". Actually, axel_knows_dating requirement makes sense since Ian gained a lot of respect from Ivy as someone not afraid to stand up for himself, even in front of an unstable chad like Axel. Plus it's a harmless sparring, doesn't necessarily mean that it will be the only way to unlock more content with Ivy in the future.
I think gating the first Ivy-Ian "scene" behind such stringent requirement is an oversight though. There has been precedents already for closing off routes if you miss something in the build up phase.
 

Turret

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Jeremy asks and insists on getting Allison even after Ian tells him she is his.
Then you make a mistake somewhere. Early on in the game there is a talk with Jeremy about Alison. If you tell him you like her and consider her yours, then Jeremy backs off completely from Alison.
 

dundun

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I've always assumed that the "experimenting" relationship was phrased intentionally vague to give room for misunderstandings between Ian and Lena—to blur the line of what's cheating or not. If that's not the case, I think that ideally could have been a bit more explicit in the chapter 9 relationship talk.
First, I also understood that wrong :) But the actual conversation is quite clear:

Ian: "We're both in a similar situation, so I get where you're coming from. I feel a bit like that too..."
Ian: "So maybe we could keep experimenting... together."
Lena: "Experimenting together? And... how would that be like?"
Ian: "I'm not sure. I've never tried something like that in a relationship, but maybe we can talk it over."
Ian: "If the two of us are OK with it, I guess we could try a more... {i}open{/i} approach to things."
Lena: "That could be... interesting."

So at the very least no sex with other people before they 'talk it over'.


One more thing, It seems there will be Robert content in this chapter after all.
If Lena gets in a fight with Ian regarding her Stalkfap content she will go home alone and have the option to call Robert.
If you click on it nothing happens for now but it will be added in the Beta or Final for sure.
I didn't play through it but looked at the code and the scene is already there. It is just one reused picture from chapter 7 though.
 

Rickster82

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How do you think the progress of the whole game is? How many are done? 1/3?
There is still so much content possible and so many constellations.
But I'm afraid if we only get 1-2 chapters a year it will take at least 7-10 years.
 
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