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I kind of like the idea of Ian getting with a man or a trans woman. Give him a chance to explore his sexuality.
Well, Perry could show some appreciation for Ian footing the food bill during their beach outing, if you know what i mean. They could include Emma with a strap-on too for the full package. :whistle:
 
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Is there a way for grappler Ian to win the mma fight in the 1st round?

I was able to do that on the kickboxing path.
 

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How does the fighting work in this game.
Is it all only right fixed choices or its random?
I tried fighting in this tournament and i cant seem to win. I tried it few times and i found out what works is to defend, dodge and strike.
It always suceeds and yet i lose somehow, i dont understand this its so weird.
I like BaD fighting a lot more where i actually get to fight through my own skills lol
 

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Is it all only right fixed choices or its random?
The outcomes for first three instances of each action MC can perform are scripted (each subsequent acting can be slightly harder to pull off, the checks are done against Ian's skills in both disciplines and/or his physical attribute and other factors like being tired or hurt. Afterwards they get random, effectively penalizing the player who sticks just to one move.

Both characters in the fight have their stamina and health, executing attacks reduces the former. Successful attacks will reduce the latter and yield you points if they actually land, but can often (especially in round 2 if you're leading after the 1st) lead to opponent's counter. If your Ian focused on jiujitsu then a solid strategy is to conserve your strength in round one and wait for your opponent to tire, then attack in round 2 and try for trip/control/submission. There's some posts with successful sequences of moves posted by some people upthread.
 

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Can anyone tell me what the last Alison scene in the gallery is? Or how to get it? I can't seem to get it playing an Alison path.
 

Zara Scarlet

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In all my playthroughs Lena deletes her stalkfap (I assume due to Seymour's request).

Does this mean the only way to view the ch 12 stalkfap scene is in a playthrough where Seymour isnt Lena's patron?
If Lena agrees to Seymour's proposal she doesn't need money from Stalkfap. There's little point in her building up loads of money, with nothing to spend it on. Seymour probably wants Lena to become some kind of unattainable goddess, that only he as 'the child' can ultimately possess. And her being on a 'sordid' social media platform like Stalkfap, is incompatible with that.

If Lena rejects Seymour's plan, unlike Peoplegram he apparently can't stop her from posting on Stalkfap, so it's an important source of potential income for her. And maybe even a first step to a future career in porn?
 

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Seriously? You fail to see the comedy in someone warning someone else about their girl being a cheater and then end up being the one responsible for it?
But if they're on a vanilla route as you suggested, it would never happen, so Jeremy would be responsible for nothing. The really funny thing is that you don't seem to get that.

If Lena and Jeremy have sex, Lena decides she's not ready for a relationship with Ian
 
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If Lena agrees to Seymour's proposal she doesn't need money from Stalkfap. There's little point in her building up loads of money, with nothing to spend it on. Seymour probably wants Lena to become some kind of unattainable goddess, that only he can ultimately possess. And her being on a 'sordid' social media platform like Stalkfap, is incompatible with that.

If Lena rejects Seymour's plan, unlike Peoplegram he apparently can't stop her from posting on Stalkfap, so it's an important source of potential income for her. And maybe even a first step to a future career in porn?
Basically he would do the same thing but with the difference that they would pay him, what a nice future he expects :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:, what would Ian think? One thing is to go out with a Stalkfap girl and another with a porn actress, how would Axel react to how violent it is to see so many men excited about her having sex in a porn movie?:unsure:
Maybe we'll see Hulk Axel and what color would he be? :unsure:
 
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Basically he would do the same thing but with the difference that they would pay him, what a nice future he expects :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:, what would Ian think? One thing is to go out with a Stalkfap girl and another with a porn actress, how would Axel react to how violent it is to see so many men excited about her having sex in a porn movie?:unsure:
Maybe we'll see Hulk Axel and what color would he be? :unsure:
Purple definatly, but when he turns he wouldn't be strong, he would be so weak that he isn't as much an alpha as he thought he was.
 

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For those of you still struggling with the fighting, I decided to make a guide to help with it.

For this playthrough I'm playing with an Ian that is a complete fighter with a focus on kickboxing.
Here is how I achieved this:

In your first appearance at the gym, after sparring with Jeremy, he will offer to go again. Select that option. Wen will then offer some grappling tips. Take him up on the offer.

When you first encounter Robert, you want to intervene and tell him not to touch Perry. This will start a fight. to get the best outcome for this fight, select the kick option.

When next you visit the gym, Jeremy will bring up your fight with Robert. Wen will offer you more wrestling training. Take it.
Whenever you are presented with the option to go to the gym, always pick it.

When Yuri comes back from Thailand, he will conduct a session with you.

Based on some decisions you made in the story (Lena sleeps with Robert) you will be given a chance to fight Robert again. To start the fight shove him or insult him. To win the fight, pick these options in the following order. Attack>Punch>Guard up>Evade>Punch>Provoke>Evade>punch. This will result in a flawless victory for you taking no damage and knocking out Robert.

You will eventually be given the choice to either stick with kickboxing or focus in Ju-jitsu. Stick with kickboxing. Yuri will then teach you combinations. Follow his instructions to learn them.

At this point whenever you visit the gym, despite choosing to stick with kickboxing, when Yuri is not around, you will automatically train wrestling with Wen and when he is around you train boxing instead.

You will get the chance to spar with Jeremy Again. Select these options to get the best outcome: Guard up>Attack>Grapple>Provoke>pick whatever. The result will always end with Jeremy knocking you down but commending you on how much you have improved.

It goes without saying that if you want participate in the tournament you have to pick that option.

In the final session at the gym before the tournament, Yuri will tell you that your striking is above average and with some work can compete at the Amateur level. Wen will say that your grappling is sufficient against most opponents in the ring. You will then be given the option to improve striking or grappling or master striking or grappling. However you will not be able to improve striking or grappling since they are already at a very decent level. You can then spend a will point to either master Kickboxing or Ju-jitsu. (Pick whatever. I picked kickboxing).

At the tournament, after Jeremy's fight before your fight starts, wen will ask you if your ready. Pick the option: "Any Advice?" this will unlock the ability to "Test the waters".

First lets start with Grappler Ian ( I did this with an Ian focused on kickboxing so if you picked grappling you may get better results than me)

When the fight starts, pick "Guard up" first. Nothing will happen.

Second pick "Guard up" again and you will be presented with this screen:
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Pick the option to kick him.

For your third action you want to still go with "Guard up" but after your first two actions you get random scenarios for your third option based on what your opponent does.
I will tell the the options to pick for the best result now.

When you see this:
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Pick Defend which will give you this screen
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Combo gives the best result but you want to conserve stamina or the first round so pick strike since it's the second best option.

For this:
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Pick Dodge then and you can either pick combo or strike next but as I said, since you want to conserve stamina in this round, pick strike.

For this:
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Select Stay still then Strike next.

That about covers all scenarios for your third choice.

For your 4th choice(when the clock is at 1:30), select provoke. This will the give you the choice to either Strike back or Grapple. Select Grapple and Trip him.
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(You can also throw him but that costs more stamina but does more damage to him) then select Secure position>Go For a Choke>Squeeze. The clock will run out with Ian almost submitting his opponent ending the first round.

If you have done everything correctly then Ian will tell Wen that he didn't get it with anything significant and he still has gas in the thank. Wen will inform Ian that he is currently destroying his opponent.
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When the second round starts, your opponent will bombard you with shots. You will then get this screen:
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You wanna pick dodge then Counter:
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From this point on just pick "guard up" and you'll get one of the previous scenarios above. This time don't be afraid to let the combinations fly.

Eventually your opponent will get either hurt or tired. Wen will then signal you to finish him:
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Select Attack>Grapple>Feint and Shoot. You'll get this screen:
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Pin him down first then go for the submission and that will be all she wrote for red shorts.

For Kickboxing Ian It's really simple.

In the first round Select "Attack" first then "Test the waters".
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Second select "Attack" again then "Strike"

Then from then on just pick guard up and you will get one of the same scenarios in the Wrestling section. Pick the same option and be conservative with the combos.

After you hit him or the third time, your opponent will lash out at you. Do not worry he won't hit you with anything significant.

When only 0:30 minutes is left on the clock, select "provoke">"Strike Back".

At half time Wen will once again inform Ian he is destroying his opponent.

At the start of the second round, your opponent will lash out again.
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This time you want to counter straight away. He will get two hits off you but there is a chance he might be hurt after this exchange based on how many times you hit him last round.
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If he isn't hurt then Attack and strike him once then he will be hurt.

From here you can select Attack>Grapple>Feint and Shoot>Pin him down>Go for a Submission and end the fight by submission. Or alternatively you can Attack then Strike. He will take you down.
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But do not worry just select "Reverse the position" after and you're good.
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Sometimes he will escape here. Other times he becomes trapped. If he is trapped, you can select Pin him down>Go for a submission to end the fight by submission.

If he escaped, both of you will stand back up and Wen will give the signal again to finish him off.

Just select Attack>Attack until he can't stop you no more then you'll get this screen:
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From then Ian will perform an automatic combo to knock out his opponent.

I didn't intend for this to be so long. Sorry about that lol.

Edit: Due to a comment made by What's New in the thread, I found out there is a way to win in the first round by Kick Boxing.
The trick is to put your foot on the gas and not worry about stamina management and always try to hit him in the face and Combo as much as possible. At 1:00 or 0:30 mark, he will be hurt enough for you to finish him. To do this just select Attack>Strike . There is an element of rng to it but here's what worked for me: Attack>Strike>Guard up>Punch>Attack>Strike>Guard up> Defend>Combination>Attack>Strike. I am yet to figure how you can do this for Grappling.
 
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For those of you still struggling with the fighting, I decided to make a guide to help with it.

For this playthrough I'm playing with an Ian that is a complete fighter with a focus on kickboxing.
Here is how I achieved this: you

In your first appearance at the gym, after sparring with Jeremy, he will offer to go again. Select that option. Wen will then offer some grappling tips. Take him up on the offer.

When you first encounter Robert, you want to intervene and tell him not to touch Perry. This will start a fight. to get the best outcome for this fight, select the kick option.

When next you visit the gym, Jeremy will bring up your fight with Robert. Wen will offer you more wrestling training. Take it.
Whenever you are presented with the option to go to the gym, always pick it.

When Yuri comes back from Thailand, he will conduct a session with you.

Based on some decisions you made in the story (Lena sleeps with Robert) you will be given a chance to fight Robert again. To start the fight shove him or insult him. To win the fight, pick these options in the following order. Attack>Punch>Guard up>Evade>Punch>Provoke>Evade>punch. This will result in a flawless victory for you taking no damage and knocking out Robert.

You will eventually be given the choice to either stick with kickboxing or focus in Ju-jitsu. Stick with kickboxing. Yuri will then teach you combinations. Follow his instructions to learn them.

At this point whenever you visit the gym, despite choosing to stick with kickboxing, when Yuri is not around, you will automatically train wrestling with Wen and when he is around you train boxing instead.

You will get the chance to spar with Jeremy Again. Select these options to get the best outcome: Guard up>Attack>Grapple>Provoke>pick whatever. The result will always end with Jeremy knocking you down but commending you on how much you have improved.

It goes without saying that if you want participate in the tournament you have to pick that option.

In the final session at the gym before the tournament, Yuri will tell you that your striking is above average and with some work can compete at the Amateur level. Wen will say that your grappling is sufficient against most opponents in the ring. You will then be given the option to improve striking or grappling or master striking or grappling. However you will not be able to improve striking or grappling since they are already at a very decent level. You can then spend a will point to either master Kickboxing or Ju-jitsu. (Pick whatever. I picked kickboxing).

At the tournament, after Jeremy's fight before your fight starts, wen will ask you if your ready. Pick the option: "Any Advice?" this will unlock the ability to "Test the waters".

First lets start with Grappler Ian ( I did this with an Ian focused on kickboxing so if you picked grappling you may get better results than me)

When the fight starts, pick "Guard up" first. Nothing will happen.
Second pick "Guard up" again and you will be presented with this screen:
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Pick the option to kick him.

For your third action you want to still go with "Guard up" but after your first two actions you get random scenarios for your third option based on what your opponent does.
I will tell the the options to pick for the best result now.

When you see this:
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Pick Defend which will give you this screen
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Combo gives the best result but you want to conserve stamina or the first round so pick strike since it's the second best option.

For this:
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Pick Dodge then and you can either pick combo or strike next but as I said, since you want to conserve stamina in this round, pick strike.

For this:
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Select Stay still then Strike next.

That about covers all scenarios for your third choice.

For your 4th choice(when the clock is at 1:30), select provoke. This will the give you the choice to either Strike back or Grapple. Select Grapple and Trip him.
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(You can also throw him but that costs more stamina but does more damage to him) then select Secure position>Go For a Choke>Squeeze. The clock will run out with Ian almost submitting his opponent ending the first round.

If you have done everything correctly then Ian will tell Wen that he didn't get it with anything significant and he still has gas in the thank. Wen will inform Ian that he is currently destroying his opponent.
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When the second round starts, your opponent will bombard you with shots. You will then get this screen:
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You wanna pick dodge then Counter:
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From this point on just pick "guard up" and you'll get one of the previous scenarios above. This time don't be afraid to let the combinations fly.

Eventually your opponent will get either hurt or tired. Wen will then signal you to finish him:
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Select Attack>Grapple>Feint and Shoot. You'll get this screen:
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Pin him down first then go for the submission and that will be all she wrote for red shorts.

For Kickboxing Ian It's really simple.

In the first round Select "Attack" first then "Test the waters".
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Second select "Attack" again then "Strike"

Then from then on just pick guard up and you will get one of the same scenarios in the Wrestling section. Pick the same option and be conservative with the combos.

After you hit him or the third time, your opponent will lash out at you. Do not worry he won't hit you with anything significant.

When only 0:30 minutes is left on the clock, select "provoke">"Strike Back".

At half time Wen will once again inform Ian he is destroying his opponent.

At the start of the second round, your opponent will lash out again.
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This time you want to counter straight away. He will get two hits off you but there is a chance he might be hurt after this exchange based on how many times you hit him last round.
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If he isn't hurt then Attack and strike him once then he will be hurt.

From here you can select Attack>Grapple>Feint and Shoot>Pin him down>Go for a Submission and end the fight by submission. Or alternatively you can Attack then Strike. He will take you down.
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But do not worry just select "Reverse the position" after and you're good.
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Sometimes he will escape here. Other times he becomes trapped. If he is trapped, you can select Pin him down>Go for a submission to end the fight by submission.

If he escaped, both of you will stand back up and Wen will give the signal again to finish him off.

Just select Attack>Attack until he can't stop you no more then you'll get this screen:
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From then Ian will perform an automatic combo to knock out his opponent.

I didn't intend for this to be so long. Sorry about that lol.
Awesome work varpep !!

This should be in the OP!
 
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Basically he would do the same thing but with the difference that they would pay him, what a nice future he expects :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:, what would Ian think? One thing is to go out with a Stalkfap girl and another with a porn actress, how would Axel react to how violent it is to see so many men excited about her having sex in a porn movie?:unsure:
Maybe we'll see Hulk Axel and what color would he be? :unsure:
Do you honestly believe Seymour needs the relatively small amount of money that Lena could earn as a model? He's the richest man in Baluart. What she earns is pocket change to him.

I guess Ian could adapt to it, the same way he adapted to stalkfap. I would imagine, it would only work though if they have an open relationship or Ian is being cucked. Lena having sex with other men as a pornstar, would be incompatible with a conventional relationship. And either there would be a further opportunity to switch to an open relationship, or they would go their separate ways? Of course, this is all hypothetical, because so far there is no indication that Lena will have the opportunity to do porn.
 

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But if they're on a vanilla route as you suggested, it would never happen, so Jeremy would be responsible for nothing. The really funny thing is that you don't seem to get that.

If Lena and Jeremy have sex, Lena decides she's not ready for a relationship with Ian
I think you guys are taking the joke too literally, which isn't a surprise considering things.

Also, you can still get it in the game if you use the universal Ren'py Mod. It makes the game MUCH better.
 

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Can you elaborate pls. Did you finish the fight in the first round or you won the first round?
I was asking if Ian can finish the mma fight (as in submission) in the first round on a jiujitsu path.

I was able to knock out the opponent in the first round on another save file where my Ian focused on kickboxing.
 
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