VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[noturiah]

My girl is looking good. I had assumed a low-change Holly would be in a one-piece, maybe a one-piece with shorts on top Glad to see even low-change Holly gets a bikini. Exciting to think about what Ivy will give a high-change Holly to wear! "Find a cute random surfer guy or girl - or both! - and have them take some pictures of you to send to me. I wanna make sure you're actually out in public in that g-string!"

I digress. But seriously, you can accuse me of huffing some grade-A copium if you want, but I'm actually glad Eva is noting how difficult the writing is over the three in-game days at the beach, which is quite a decent amount of time to be developing when all of them could be jam-packed with scenes, depending on your playthrough. And how she's being careful to make conversations and interactions have nuance and flow well, over quite a lot of variation in narrative so far based on branching paths. Yes, it slows down the writing and the updates. But I'd much rather Eva put in the added time and have the scenarios and dialogue be up to the quality she's been delivering pretty well overall since the start. I'm here for the sex scenes, but also here for (most of) the characters. I hope Perry will let his hair down. I hope Emma and Lena will become more than friends (with or without Ian). I hope for passionate stuff if Ian and Lena are together; I hope for just as passionate other stuff if they're not But I want it to be grounded in solid characters and believable storylines based on what's come before, and Eva making it clear that's what she aims to give us will be worth it to me, even if the update drops later than we'd all like.

 

[chiperman]

GGGB: one month
ORS: one year

How could it have come to this, Eva?!

I don't really know mate, but I'm sure she's focusing on writing

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I don't really know mate, but I'm sure she's focusing on writing

I completely lost any fate in this game when it comes to the release dates and it seems like most people are over it. Lowkey I'm glad the jokes about "focusing on writing" still persists 4 years later.

 

[Blurpee69]

My girl is looking good. I had assumed a low-change Holly would be in a one-piece, maybe a one-piece with shorts on top Glad to see even low-change Holly gets a bikini.

Genuinely curious why you, and others, thought a low change Holly would be dressing up like she's a lifeguard on duty? Is it simply for the added contrast of the bikini cut a high change Holly would wear? Holly lacks confidence in herself, but I don't think she has ever expressed a concerning lack of confidence to the point that sort of swimwear would come into play. We can see from the club scenes that even a low change Holly wears sexy dresses, they're just not out and out slutty dresses like Ivy or Lena can wear.

In my experiences even fairly religious / conservative women wear bikinis to pools and beaches unless they have concerns about their weight, or something to hide. For example I had a friend through middle and high school who was the daughter of a pastor, she herself was very relgious and believed strongly in no sex until marriage; even she and her church friends wore bikinis except one, and that was only because she had a tattoo along her hip that would have been impossible to hide in anything but a one piece.

 

[jimul18]

Apparently I was right about updates every half a year

I completely lost any fate in this game when it comes to the release dates and it seems like most people are over it. Lowkey I'm glad the jokes about "focusing on writing" still persists 4 years later.

Until patreons are starting to vote with their wallets instead of the continued simping/coddling in the comments this is going to persist, progress and even spiral. The excuses here about "the complexity compared to GGGB, the artstyle, the lines of code..." are also going to stay, but honestly at this point this is delusion to the point of embarrassment.

The hard truth is that EK can coast on the amount of patrons as well as the smell of her own farts (i.e. "focusing on writing"). ORS needs to either wrap up quick, 1-2 updates/years or it is going to need a complete overhaul with EK taking taking a smaller role in her own creation, writing specific dialogue and narration for otherwise predetermined (by others) scenes.

 

[ffive]

In my experiences even fairly religious / conservative women wear bikinis to pools and beaches unless they have concerns about their weight, or something to hide.

Low change Holly potentially wouldn't attend gym sessions with Lena and Ivy, so she'd be relatively chubby and yes, possibly concerned with her appearance when next to Lena. That said, i don't think this is just a matter of concerns over appearance or having things to hide. Not everyone is comfortable with the amount of skin exposed when wearing a bikini and it has little to do with religion or political views. Also, wearing one piece swimsuits can simply be due to preference and actually liking the way they look.

 

[varpep]

Does anyone know the conditions for Lena to be able to join in on the fun between Holly and Ivy in chapter 8?

 

[yuvce]

Does anyone know the conditions for Lena to be able to join in on the fun between Holly and Ivy in chapter 8?

 

[Leongen43]

Low change Holly potentially wouldn't attend gym sessions with Lena and Ivy, so she'd be relatively chubby and yes, possibly concerned with her appearance when next to Lena. That said, i don't think this is just a matter of concerns over appearance or having things to hide. Not everyone is comfortable with the amount of skin exposed when wearing a bikini and it has little to do with religion or political views. Also, wearing one piece swimsuits can simply be due to preference and actually liking the way they look.

It's just an image of Holly from the route probably where Lena/Ivy don't have that much influence over her and she probably has a relationship with Ian but without much corruption, I would like to see other images of her but very sexy where Ivy/Lena has corrupted her, wearing a micro bikini maybe?

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[Xupuzulla]

If Holly is in the Marcel/Robert/Mark/Clark path she should be wearing something more risky for sure

 

[Krysis_here]

If Holly is in the Marcel/Robert/Mark/Clark path she should be wearing something more risky for sure

Let's keep Potato Head Robert Aside for Sometime **Bonk** **Bonk**
Now in the case of Marcel/Mark/Clark dress could be more revealing, Right? Or Why to wear even clothes She can go Free Dragon

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[Xupuzulla]

Let's keep Potato Head Robert Aside for Sometime **Bonk** **Bonk**
Now in the case of Marcel/Mark/Clark dress could be more revealing, Right? Or Why to wear even clothes She can go Free Dragon

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Holly the mother of black dragons

 

[Leongen43]

Holly the mother of black dragons

It will be interesting if we could have a change of look for Holly so she can compete better with the other ORS bitches, the sex scenes with Ian will be hotter and maybe on a bbc route for Holly too, right? everyone is going to love the nerd

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[noturiah]

Genuinely curious why you, and others, thought a low change Holly would be dressing up like she's a lifeguard on duty? Is it simply for the added contrast of the bikini cut a high change Holly would wear? Holly lacks confidence in herself, but I don't think she has ever expressed a concerning lack of confidence to the point that sort of swimwear would come into play. We can see from the club scenes that even a low change Holly wears sexy dresses, they're just not out and out slutty dresses like Ivy or Lena can wear.

Partly yes, I think it would be interesting from a branching angle to have any character with low to high change variables wear clothes which reflect the variation in personality. We already have seen it with Holly and her hairstyle/clothes over the past few chapters, so it seemed reasonable to me to think different bathing suits might also stem from that.

And partly my thought was, we've seen Holly be hesitant to work out at the gym - and even when she does, wear gym clothes which cover up most of her body at the start and with low change. I would guess that a beach situation would be similar. In both situations most people tend to wear less clothing and lighter fabrics, but someone who is body-conscious (for whatever reason) may well choose to wear more clothes, or heavier clothes, or simply cover up more of their body.

So yeah, I was trying to think about it both from Holly's potential POV, as well as the idea that Eva might want to continue having different visual options for different branches.

 

[Blurpee69]

Low change Holly potentially wouldn't attend gym sessions with Lena and Ivy, so she'd be relatively chubby and yes, possibly concerned with her appearance when next to Lena. That said, i don't think this is just a matter of concerns over appearance or having things to hide. Not everyone is comfortable with the amount of skin exposed when wearing a bikini and it has little to do with religion or political views. Also, wearing one piece swimsuits can simply be due to preference and actually liking the way they look.

I don't disagree with what you said, and there are a multitude of reasons for wearing a one piece suit, I was just using a relatable example from my experiences. But nothing of Holly's character really points to what you described, or how I've seen some other reactions. She has always come across to me as inexperienced and lacking the confidence that comes from experiences, rather than uncomfortable with who she is or really even her appearance.

Yes, she is growing bolder as her friendship with Lena and Ivy grows, but that's to be expected from any friendship.

The suit shown in the preview actually lines up really well with Lena's default option when going shopping, before the player can decide on the charisma black, or the lust white suits.

 

[BlandChili]

So yeah, I was trying to think about it both from Holly's potential POV, as well as the idea that Eva might want to continue having different visual options for different branches.

You know I wouldn't actually mind terribly if Holly dating Ian would produce a unique variant here and there too. Eva is probably not looking to add even more branching to her game at this point, but it would make sense if Holly being with Ian and getting some confidence in herself from being romantically successful, could have a slightly different look from non-Ian Holly with either low or high change variable, something to differentiate her in that comparison and another way to have an alt with her. If she gets with neither Ian or Lena and isn't encouraged to change she would remain as she is from game's start.

And partly my thought was, we've seen Holly be hesitant to work out at the gym - and even when she does, wear gym clothes which cover up most of her body at the start and with low change. I would guess that a beach situation would be similar. In both situations most people tend to wear less clothing and lighter fabrics, but someone who is body-conscious (for whatever reason) may well choose to wear more clothes, or heavier clothes, or simply cover up more of their body.

I've known some body-conscious women who wore two-piece swimsuits, not because they found it more or less comfortable personally, but because it was rather the least conspicuous option. It makes sense in a way, in a sea of bikini-clad women you'd stand out being one of the few in a one-piece, or at least that's a reasoning one could realistically conjure up even if it's not actually true.

 

[ffive]

But nothing of Holly's character really points to what you described, or how I've seen some other reactions. She has always come across to me as inexperienced and lacking the confidence that comes from experiences, rather than uncomfortable with who she is or really even her appearance.

I think it's safe to say that Holly was at least shy about her appearance, and that's why she's dressing the way she is when at low change:



Granted, this is "Hollywood Homely" kind of "drab, unassuming and loose" but the game still makes it pretty obvious that Holly would rather cover herself up than draw attention to her body, or simply present it the way it is. Which isn't really what a person confident in their appearance would do.

 

[ffive]

You know I wouldn't actually mind terribly if Holly dating Ian would produce a unique variant here and there too. Eva is probably not looking to add even more branching to her game at this point, but it would make sense if Holly being with Ian and getting some confidence in herself from being romantically successful, could have a slightly different look from non-Ian Holly with either low or high change variable, something to differentiate her in that comparison and another way to have an alt with her.

INB4 we find out the necklet chad Ian buys for Holly spells "CUMEATER".

 

[BlandChili]

INB4 we find out the necklet chad Ian buys for Holly spells "CUMEATER".

I mean, if Ian was a real Chadington Buffworth IV he'd get her a collar that said "Slut #1" or another number depending on how he'd rank his bitches.

Now I feel like I have to go wash my hands. And my keyboard.

 

[Leongen43]

I mean, if Ian was a real Chadington Buffworth IV he'd get her a collar that said "Slut #1" or another number depending on how he'd rank his bitches.

Now I feel like I have to go wash my hands. And my keyboard.

It's understandable I guess these things happen so when "you're ready they will be too", right?

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