VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[lorkdubo]

For "slut Lena" they are hook ups, not LIs. Lena isn't picking them so she can hold hands with them and dream of future together, but to get off, which they deliver. It's not "women " any more than a guy hooking up with a girl and keeping at it even when he well realizes she isn't "girlfriend material" but because sex is good is "men ".

Now, if your actual point was indeed that male characters in the game are mostly lacking as LIs, then you'll probably find very little disagreement around here. But it was weird choice to tie this discussion to "slut Lena" specifically, because if anything it'd apply to Lena who is an opposite of a "slut", i.e. looking for actual relationship and not casual fucks.

Even as hook-up material, they are quite lacking. Blackmailing is not cool. Fuck you Robert!

 

[0tt0von]

ORS is a porn, visual. choose your own adventure, if a particular adventure does not appeal to you then don't choose it

The above does not apply to those who lack the mental acuity to not choose the paths they don't like. Those people should continue to do that and then whine incessantly about it, after all just because they are booger sucking morons doesn't mean they shouldn't get to play ORS.

 

[bombaclaaaat]

gr8 game brosky

 

[WatsonJohn]

The game provides (porn) options. But the existence of this content doesn't mean it's trying to make you play only in the way that lets you see all content in single playthrough. That's on the player and how they choose to approach it. If anything, the fact considerable chunks of this content is mutually exclusive hints at the opposite, possibly a preference for multiple playthroughs with less unbridled approach.

Never said the game forces you to play a single path, hence the terms "cater" and "focus". Those mutually exclusive scenes heavily favor a particular path. In fact, you can get most or all of those scenes in one path while you don't see most of them on the other. The most of those "exclusive" content you'll get are text changes. In the most recent update for example, the new scenes you get from Lena are her getting fucked by either Axel or Jack, giving blowjob to either Jeremy or Marcel, and lastly with Ian. On the more romantic and less slutty path, you get some satisfaction of rebuffing Axel and sex with Ian. Lena could have a more meaningful relationship other than with Ian, more scenes with Holly both romantically and platonically. Hell, she could have had other decent options than Ian. As I said before, I'm here mostly for the fetishizing, but let's not kid ourselves with what the game caters to more. Despite what the author said, ORS bears a lot of narrative similarities to GGGB.

 

[Secative]

With the next patch, will this game get completed tag?

 

[Socrambus]

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Hi guys!

I've been rather silent after the release of Chapter 11's epilogue, but I haven't been idle. I've been focusing on writing Chapter 12 and my plan is to release new content at the end of November. But before that, I wanted to discuss with you guys the approach I'll be taking with this chapter's release cycle.

The initial plan was simple, releasing chapter after chapter, each one featuring both Lena's and Ian's POVs. As development has progressed, it's become clear that each chapter requires a lot more time and work, due to branching narratives, higher production values and personal fatigue, amongst other factors. That's why, inevitably, each new chapter seems to take longer than the one before.

With chapter 11 I switched things up a bit, more out of neccessity than by design, releasing the Prologue, then the Chapter, then the Epilogue, which allowed me to pack quite some content I wanted to include. I've decided to go with a similar strategy when it comes to Chapter 12.

My plan is to release a sort of Prologue, that will finally cover the anticipated MMA tournament, aside from moving the plot forward with several character relationships, and will also have a scene you might not be expecting. My goal is to release this update before December.

After that, I will publish Ian's part of the chapter, that will depict the anticipated trip to Perry's Beach house. And once that's out, I will take care of Lena's part, for which I have some big events in mind.

I know releasing the full chapter all at once would be much better, but the scope of the game is simply too large and I don't want to starve my supporters for content. But the main reason I'm choosing to do it this way is for my own mental sanity: I've noticed that development cycles that are months long become really draining, for two main reasons.

Being able to push out a new update is what keeps me going; I'm able to share the work with you guys, and the feeling of accomplishment is refreshing and allows me to get back to work with enthusiasm. If it takes too long for an update to be completed, tension starts mounting up, and it can get pretty stressful, since I want to deliver and the goalpost feels too far away. When the chapter is as big at these last ones, seeing the mountain of tasks that I still need to complete before having a finished chapter can get pretty daunting, and no matter how much work I complete, it feels there's always a lot more to be done. I always feel a rush of motivation when I'm close to being done with an update, and why I always jump straight away into the next one eagerly.

These past few weeks I've been working on Chapter 12 and I've felt motivated and productive, so hopefully doing things this way will also contribute to speed things up, aside from making development more managable psycologically.

So, hopefully, you think my plan is a good idea, but if you'd prefer to wait until the whole chapter is out to susbscribe again, that's perfectly fine too. I'll keep working to make a game worthy of your time and attention, at least, that's what I'm aiming for! Thanks for all your support, past, present or future

Good decision for everybody. If Eva is going to be more comfortable with smaller and more frequent updates, cool. Specially when you can easily divide the game narratively using each event (beach house, tournament, Billy's thing and so on). People who want the content as soon as possible and dislike long waits, will get it. If you prefer to play a larger update, you can always hold on for a couple of releases before updating the game, no real loss.

Lena can also be just (casual) friends with Perry, Jeremy and Mike, since all flirting/sex is completely optional and has to be pushed by the player.

Actually Ian can fuck more taken girls than Lena can with taken guys.

Ian can fuck:
-Cindy
-Minerva
-Louise (if Lena had a Louise threesome with Jeremy, she can invite Louise to a threesome with Ian if she isn't serious with Ian)

I don't consider Louise "taken" in any of the possible paths. Jeremy doesn't care about her in a serious way and doesn't consider himself in a relationship and Lena is the one to plan the whole threesome thing.

Believe it or not, but women (and men too) often do things that they promised not to do. It is so easy to come up with an excuse when you're overwhelmed with passion.

Of course, when you feel the pain from being cheated on, you may not want someone else get hurt like that. But once you're healed from that, you suddenly realize that it wasn't a big deal.

It's just how humans work and not only on the cheating and relationships stuff. If people just behaved themselves in the way they would like others to behave with them, we would live in a very different world. But we live in a world where people are rude even if they dislike others being rude to them, cheat even when they would hate being cheated on and so on.

Never said the game forces you to play a single path, hence the terms "cater" and "focus". Those mutually exclusive scenes heavily favor a particular path. In fact, you can get most or all of those scenes in one path while you don't see most of them on the other. The most of those "exclusive" content you'll get are text changes. In the most recent update for example, the new scenes you get from Lena are her getting fucked by either Axel or Jack, giving blowjob to either Jeremy or Marcel, and lastly with Ian. On the more romantic and less slutty path, you get some satisfaction of rebuffing Axel and sex with Ian. Lena could have a more meaningful relationship other than with Ian, more scenes with Holly both romantically and platonically. Hell, she could have had other decent options than Ian. As I said before, I'm here mostly for the fetishizing, but let's not kid ourselves with what the game caters to more. Despite what the author said, ORS bears a lot of narrative similarities to GGGB.

The game tries to cater to as much people (and consequently kinks) as possible. Which I don't think is a bad approach for a game with as much freedom to choose as this one has. And yes, you get more content if you fuck everybody, it's an AVN. But as long as content is not forced on us and keeps being decided by our choices, I'm fine with the game trying to please people with different tastes from mine.

 

[Chartog]

People laughed at my post saying I expect the next update in December. Eva comes out today and says the next update is planned for November. Suck on that bitches

 

[dolfe67]

People laughed at my post saying I expect the next update in December. Eva comes out today and says the next update is planned for November. Suck on that bitches

They were thinking about a full update, not a fucking "prologue"

 

[Xupuzulla]

People laughed at my post saying I expect the next update in December. Eva comes out today and says the next update is planned for November. Suck on that bitches

To be fair,no one expected EK to do a 180 on the patreons decisions.
Im glad through,i rather have quick small updates than wait till march-june to play chapter 12.

 

[Chartog]

They were thinking about a full update, not a fucking "prologue"

I said "next update" not next "full update". She used to release a lot more frequently before taking some breaks

 

[ffive]

Never said the game forces you to play a single path, hence the terms "cater" and "focus". Those mutually exclusive scenes heavily favor a particular path. In fact, you can get most or all of those scenes in one path while you don't see most of them on the other. The most of those "exclusive" content you'll get are text changes.

I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. When i said mutually exclusive content, i meant things like Ian getting blocked from Lena's path (or Cindy's) if he chooses to pursue Holly. You're not going to see most or all of the scenes of one of these paths while pursuing the other.

And again, being provided with ability to have some particular approach in the game does not mean this approach is favored by the game. This is your personal perception, what you favor, derived from how you value being able to see more content. But it's quite presumptuous to attribute the same mindset to the author.

 

[WatsonJohn]

I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. When i said mutually exclusive content, i meant things like Ian getting blocked from Lena's path (or Cindy's) if he chooses to pursue Holly. You're not going to see most or all of the scenes of one of these paths while pursuing the other.

And again, being provided with ability to have some particular approach in the game does not mean this approach is favored by the game. This is your personal perception, what you favor, derived from how you value being able to see more content. But it's quite presumptuous to attribute the same mindset to the author.

I'm sorry, I thought we're talking about Lena's side of things. I have started this about Lena and continued the line of discussion on Lena.

Having some means to do different things does not mean the game doesn't cater more to a particular path or way of playing. It's presumptuous to attribute this to my mindset when I'm talking about all the scenes in general. We could have had more unique content playing as romantic and less slutty, and more exclusive scenes but the game skews more heavily on certain side of things.

 

[dolfe67]

Well, romancing handsome and kind men is not really what most of the audience of female MC wants

 

[Gicoo]

Well, romancing handsome and kind men is not really what most of the audience of female MC wants

Ideally the LI cover everything. A chunky alpha who obliterates Lena like Axel and Mike is neat, but a stable chill guy like Dave is also appealing. GGGB had a bit more range and offered some nice non toxic options (Dave, Eva, Eric, even Ryan and the Dad was kind of wholesome). Lena only has Ian and Holly. Stan could've been a cute nerd, but instead he went full pathetic shit without Arthurs brazeness. Even Perry was made a bit too unsympathetic, whiny and ungrateful.

 

[SerHawkes]

Ideally the LI cover everything. A chunky alpha who obliterates Lena like Axel and Mike is neat, but a stable chill guy like Dave is also appealing. GGGB had a bit more range and offered some nice non toxic options (Dave, Eva, Eric, even Ryan and the Dad was kind of wholesome). Lena only has Ian and Holly. Stan could've been a cute nerd, but instead he went full pathetic shit without Arthurs brazeness. Even Perry was made a bit too unsympathetic, whiny and ungrateful.

Indeed. Lena's interested partners are and have been shit with the exception of Ian and Holly. Could even say Ivy as well to a point. But like normal EK has to have Lena be a slut character even if she is not one or made out to be, with pointless/fetish characters that are just there to earn that kink money and pander to interests.

 

[ffive]

Having some means to do different things does not mean the game doesn't cater more to a particular path or way of playing. It's presumptuous to attribute this to my mindset when I'm talking about all the scenes in general.

I don't think it's presumptuous to attribute it to your mindset when what you're saying is your opinion. My, similarly personal opinion, is that i don't perceive myself "less catered to" on a path where i choose for the characters not to fuck everything that moves. Or catered more to when i choose to play a path where i do.

We could have had more unique content playing as romantic and less slutty, and more exclusive scenes but the game skews more heavily on certain side of things.

All is easy for those who don't have to put an actual effort in producing the game. What the game actually does is reusing some of the content in order to provide the player with larger selection of characters they can pursue. Because the author doesn't have means to produce even more unique content she already does, in reasonable time.

Mind you, this bigger selection of characters doesn't mean skewing in any particular way, because the decision how much of it you want to see in single playthrough is, again, completely yours. Whether the player wants to juggle between a few characters, or focus on just one or two, that's all on them. The game itself isn't influencing it.

And you seem to be making a big presumption here, about the nature of sexual content in the game. Because for all we know a large part of this content is actually made with "romantic path" on mind first, and then simply reused for the "slutty path" which effectively gets some cloned leftovers.

 

[Andrea9999]

Ideally the LI cover everything. A chunky alpha who obliterates Lena like Axel and Mike is neat, but a stable chill guy like Dave is also appealing. GGGB had a bit more range and offered some nice non toxic options (Dave, Eva, Eric, even Ryan and the Dad was kind of wholesome). Lena only has Ian and Holly. Stan could've been a cute nerd, but instead he went full pathetic shit without Arthurs brazeness. Even Perry was made a bit too unsympathetic, whiny and ungrateful.

For me, I like the exotic and in this game there is only one "LI" that meets it; Lena with Seymour. So far there is so little, yet to me, so hot and so far, without the hardcore. I had Lena choose Dubai in the travel desire...hoping that will lead to something darkly, darkly hot. The magenta lovense use is superb. But so far, only two short intense scenes.
Btw: If anyone can suggest other games that have that type of focus, preferably with a female main character, I would be grateful.

 

[BunnyDevil]

For me, I like the exotic and in this game there is only one "LI" that meets it; Lena with Seymour. So far there is so little, yet to me, so hot and so far, without the hardcore. I had Lena choose Dubai in the travel desire...hoping that will lead to something darkly, darkly hot. The magneta lovense use is superb. But so far, only two short intense scenes.
Btw: If anyone can suggest other games that have that type of focus, preferably with a female main character, I would be grateful.

Seymour will probably ask Lena to do some very immoral things during the meeting with his wealthy and powerful business partners in Dubai. And the question will she tell Ian, where is she going?

 

[SerHawkes]

Seymour will probably ask Lena to do some very immoral things during the meeting with his wealthy and powerful business partners in Dubai. And the question will she tell Ian, where is she going?

If given the choice, probably not, simply for the sake of drama, though maybe.

 

[Chartog]

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