VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[GokutheG]

I think the willingness of Lena to work for Seymour is enough for her to forget about not working with Danny or the museum. She might think it's a big upgrade for her life because her posh level and Seymour's disposition also go hand in hand when working for him.
We might get an option later if the situation in Baluart becomes grim due to the failing economy and Seymour's shady deals are out in the open. Other than that I don't see anyone disclosing it to Lena personally if she likes working for Seymour.


Exactly!!! His influence is enough to stop people from disclosing his stuff to Lena. Danny only helped Lena because the visiting photographer was not working under Seymour in any shape or form. He just wanted to clear his guilty conscience without putting himself on Seymour's radar.
The funny thing about the contract is. Lena gets a 'wits' option if she has (lena_wits > 5). Lena will get bent over if she terminates the contract early without this specific clause. Lena thought of the clause for the short term but Seymour thought for the long term to ruin her for life with debts. Seymour says it to her openly.

s "I hope we don't find ourselves in that eventuality, but in that case, you'll be required to reimburse what has been paid to you, plus an additional twenty percent as compensation."
s "And, most importantly... People in the industry will know you're not a trustworthy employee, so you might have problems finding a high-end job.

reimbursement + 20% interest = Done fucked up

Wait is this 20% thing a new condition for the contract? I had Lena sign because she just needed to return that month's payment if she broke the contract early. She had a good relationship with Seymour and she added her own clause. Is the whole other people knowing she can't be trusted about the nda because that's understandable I just don't remember it.

 

[SearingFive]

Wait is this 20% thing a new condition for the contract? I had Lena sign because she just needed to return that month's payment if she broke the contract early. Is the whole other people knowing she can't be trusted about the nda because that's understandable I just don't remember it.

I went through the codes again and there was no mention of returning the pay for that month only. You probably misremembered it.

She had a good relationship with Seymour and she added her own clause.

 if seymour_disposition > 2:
        $ flena = "n"
        l "No, everything's clear..."
    else:
        menu v9contractmenu:
            "{image=icon_wits.webp}I want to add a clause" if lena_wits > 5 and v9_contract < 3:

You need these specific conditions to add the clause. If she is fully committed then you don't get the add option.

 

[GokutheG]

I went through the codes again and there was no mention of returning the pay for that month only. You probably misremembered it.

 if seymour_disposition > 2:
        $ flena = "n"
        l "No, everything's clear..."
    else:
        menu v9contractmenu:
            "{image=icon_wits.webp}I want to add a clause" if lena_wits > 5 and v9_contract < 3:

You need these specific conditions to add the clause. If she is fully committed then you don't get the add option.

Yeah he really said that she can break the contract after the first month without penalty. She was interested but thought it may have some sort of catch. She was able to add the clause because she was hesitant.

Spoiler: My contract conversation

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I haven't upgraded to chapter 12 yet so I don't know if this conversation changed or if you're talking about the route where the 2 have a bad relationship. If that's how the conversation goes for most players than I understand why he isn't as popular as the dev wants.

 

[Dom Toretto]

It's be nice if he have a progress chart like the other devs to show where he is at on each update

 

[SearingFive]

Yeah, he really said that she can break the contract after the first month without penalty. She was interested but thought it may have some sort of catch. She was able to add the clause because she was hesitant.

I haven't upgraded to chapter 12 yet so I don't know if this conversation changed or if you're talking about the route where the 2 have a bad relationship. If that's how the conversation goes for most players then I understand why he isn't as popular as the dev wants.

Terminating after one month is fair play in Seymour's eyes. The 20% + reimbursement is only when she breaks it before her one month is over. Also denying her other high-end jobs.
Oh, I haven't played the game since the tournament update. I just go through the codes for a quick refresh. Too lazy to press Tab or CTRL in-game.

 

[Krysis_here]

It's be nice if he have a progress chart like the other devs to show where he is at on each update

Agreed on that But this Time last update was given on 2nd January and till then nothing said about How much time will be taken so on Thing it's hard for any of us to say When the Update news or Work update will come

 

[Xupuzulla]

Was thinking how Holly Slut arc will look. One of the Most Calm girls with a lil Slut Touchup. Like Holly Jeremy naked and She tastes some of His Milk

Spoiler: New Joke Book

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Sadly we will never get Jeremy+Holly,it would be too forced,they never interact with each other.
Marcel+Holly through...

 

[ffive]

It's be nice if he have a progress chart like the other devs to show where he is at on each update

Progress charts for porn game devs are pretty much just "things i'll fail to deliver" than anything of actual use.

 

[Xupuzulla]

It's be nice if he have a progress chart like the other devs to show where he is at on each update

I like how EK deliver update news,theres nothing wrong of how she does it.
She just went silent this month,thats all.

 

[SearingFive]

Even wearing a posh outfit she was denied by Wildcats. Not sophisticated enough

 

[Leongen43]

Sadly we will never get Jeremy+Holly,it would be too forced,they never interact with each other.
Marcel+Holly through...

You never know, maybe Lena will show him the magical power of the drugs she uses, and to have sex you don't have to know each other very much. Do you think Holly gave her personal diary to Mark before they had sex?

 

[GokutheG]

Terminating after one month is fair play in Seymour's eyes. The 20% + reimbursement is only when she breaks it before her one month is over. Also denying her other high-end jobs.
Oh, I haven't played the game since the tournament update. I just go through the codes for a quick refresh. Too lazy to press Tab or CTRL in-game.

Personally Lena just does modeling to help pay the bills so Seymour wanting to control that aspect wasn't a big deal to me. Now if he tried to interfere in her music or say that she cant help Molly anymore that would be a whole other can of worms.

I didn't get those explicit penalty talks when he offered the contract so it was much easier to accept. With how antagonistic Seymour is if you don't start with a great relationship I don't see how the dev is surprised that he isn't popular on that route. It's basically blackmail/dubcon and that seems to be niche and counterproductive in games where character agency is the selling point.

It's like he's written as this ruthless businessman that's willing to use blackmail to get what he wants but at the same time he's compassionate enough to let it slide that Lena was visiting her parents. She technically broke the contract since it states she must keep herself available for gigs according to his schedule. This only makes sense if they have a good relationship. That's why I think he should have been written as attacking her morals instead of her livelihood.

 

[GokutheG]

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Even wearing a posh outfit she was denied by Wildcats. Not sophisticated enough

I see this as the distinction between the different versions of Jess. Good Jess is attractive/sexy while bad Jess is trashy.

Ivy is attractive/sexy but she goes too far for what the Wildcats are looking for.

 

[Xupuzulla]

You never know, maybe Lena will show him the magical power of the drugs she uses, and to have sex you don't have to know each other very much. Do you think Holly gave her personal diary to Mark before they had sex?

Im just saying,if i had the power Holly would be pounded by the whole black population of Baluart.
Also If Jeremy and Holly have sex some of the regulars in this thread are going to be MAD MAD

 

[SearingFive]

Personally Lena just does modeling to help pay the bills so Seymour wanting to control that aspect wasn't a big deal to me. Now if he tried to interfere in her music or say that she cant help Molly anymore that would be a whole other can of worms.

I didn't get those explicit penalty talks when he offered the contract so it was much easier to accept. With how antagonistic Seymour is if you don't start with a great relationship I don't see how the dev is surprised that he isn't popular on that route. It's basically blackmail/dubcon and that seems to be niche and counterproductive in games where character agency is the selling point.

It's like he's written as this ruthless businessman who's willing to use blackmail to get what he wants but at the same time, he's compassionate enough to let it slide that Lena was visiting her parents. She technically broke the contract since it states she must keep herself available for gigs according to his schedule. This only makes sense if they have a good relationship. That's why I think he should have been written as attacking her morals instead of her livelihood.

I think he does attack her morality too regarding having access to her banking statements but yeah he goes after livelihood more than her morals. Seymour is a true relativistic villain, nothing is black and white; everything is grey if we try to probe him more. The no-touching clause is very dubcon.

I see this as the distinction between the different versions of Jess. Good Jess is attractive/sexy while bad Jess is trashy.

Ivy is attractive/sexy but she goes too far for what the Wildcats are looking for.

The red alt dress bad jess looked good. The leopard print really made her trashy . Aye, Ivy is too hot for Wildcats.

 

[GokutheG]

I think he does attack her morality too regarding having access to her banking statements but yeah he goes after livelihood more than her morals. Seymour is a true relativistic villain, nothing is black and white; everything is grey if we try to probe him more. The no-touching clause is very dubcon.


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The red alt dress bad jess looked good. The leopard print really made her trashy . Aye, Ivy is too hot for Wildcats.

So Seymour is willing to blackmail her to try and force her to do what he wants but want get forceful in a sexual situation seems a bit...dubious. For me they will never get physical but it's good protection for Lena. This does make me wonder if there will be another Axel like situation where he wants you to get physical with someone else and tries to argue that the clause only meant him.

I understand doing background checks on people who you want to hire but it seems he used his power to do more than that. Yeah I was thinking that the moral attacks would also be him trying to convince her she's to good to work for Molly even if Lena does it due to her frail health. Does she leave for the money or convince him that helping out is the right thing.

Wow the red really does look good on her. I'm guessing it was changed to show that Jess' life really went to shit and the trashy redo was the best way to do that.

 

[dolfe67]

Ivy also has fake lips and fake boobs while Cindy is all natural

 

[tbs9090]

I think he does attack her morality too regarding having access to her banking statements but yeah he goes after livelihood more than her morals. Seymour is a true relativistic villain, nothing is black and white; everything is grey if we try to probe him more. The no-touching clause is very dubcon.


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The red alt dress bad jess looked good. The leopard print really made her trashy . Aye, Ivy is too hot for Wildcats.

I had to look up what dubcon meant and yeesh i didn't think seymour could get any sleazier in my eyes but it seems i was wrong.

 

[SearingFive]

So Seymour is willing to blackmail her to try and force her to do what he wants but want get forceful in a sexual situation seems a bit...dubious. For me they will never get physical but it's good protection for Lena. This does make me wonder if there will be another Axel like situation where he wants you to get physical with someone else and tries to argue that the clause only meant him.

I understand doing background checks on people who you want to hire but it seems he used his power to do more than that. Yeah I was thinking that the moral attacks would also be him trying to convince her she's to good to work for Molly even if Lena does it due to her frail health. Does she leave for the money or convince him that helping out is the right thing.

Wow the red really does look good on her. I'm guessing it was changed to show that Jess' life really went to shit and the trashy redo was the best way to do that.

s "In fact, the contract explicitly states that I'm not allowed to lay a finger on you... unless you'd want me to."
 l "Why would I want you to lay your fingers on me?"
        $ fseymour = "evil"
        s "Exactly. Why would you?"
        
        Seymour knows about Lena/Axel photoshoot
        if lena_axel_dating:
                            s "Not even Axel. You'll never make it to Wildcats."
                            l "He also knew about my photo shoot with Axel?"

I think with enough disposition; Lena will ask Seymour to touch her. He was pretty confident at the restaurant. If Agnes gets involved more, there will be Axel/Lena situation. The oldbag is nuts for Axel. Also, the new mayoral candidate was showing some interest towards Lena. High-end escort here we come.

 

[| Vee |]

The issue with wildcats matter is not that Ivy is not selected but Axel's "promise" to her. Agencies have certain criteria's so they will take people accordingly. Ivy doesn't make it according to what they were looking for, cool. It's Axel's backstabbing which was the issue IMO as Ivy think Axel favored Cindy despite promising her. The issue on Ivy's end is that she believed "Axel's Words" and on Axel's end is he "promised" her.