Hear, hear. Ash/Iris (without Arthur bullshit, thankyouverymuch) was the one true pairing i was really interested in but never got. For shame.
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In fact, there is no hate for Ian. It's just a few loud users posting crap.
Increasing development time is inevitable with all games that branch; more and more variations need to be taken. But the fact that Eva has problems with writing, she herself spoke about this in her feedback.
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No hate for Ian but not many prefer to play as him
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I like both characters because each one has a different way of seeing the story of the game, that's why I would have liked a higher level of customization with Ian but it's not possible and you have to accept it, I like Ian that's why I'm looking for the best route For him, I also like to see him as a womanizer or in a free relationship without his knowledge, what do you call them?
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Can't trust the poll. Who voted, why did they chose their option etc.
Cindy is also the most popular girl (excluding Lena), so removing Ian would remove her.
My take is that people voted for Lena because she is a hot girl whose debauchery you can control, Ian is just a random dude who serves as a self-insert to get hot girls.
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Isn't it a useless debate anyway? Eva isn't going to change the core structure of the game just because of a user-base preference.
At most it'll influence any such decisions for her future projects, if anything.
At most it'll influence any such decisions for her future projects, if anything.
What are you talking about? That was literally Iris's main story, in that one regard she was used to her full "potential".
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17% prefer Ian and 33% prefer to play both, that is half. And half prefer Lena, but that doesn't mean they'd rather cut out Ian's path.
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Can't trust people who pay for it?
No it wouldn't...would just remove that one particular route.
People can whine all they like...but the core majority of EK's fans are FMC fans. Why she ever thought of including an MC is beyond me. Want to play a MC game..there's literally thousands of them. Sure, this isn't going to change, but I doubt very much her next will include one.
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That is interesting mental math ma boy.... 17+33=50 and 49+33=half.
I have to remember this next time I do my taxes.
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Didn't you think that these 33% who play for both means Ian is completely ok for them?That is interesting mental math ma boy.... 17+33=50 and 49+33=half.
That's a misinterpretation of what was said leading you astray. "half prefer Lena" refers to 49% who literally prefer Lena. The 33% you try to add to it stated they like both MCs equally.49+33=half.
(i get that adding 17+33 can look fishy in this context, but i think the argument was that these 50% combined can be safely said they don't dislike Ian. The remaining 49% might, but not necessarily to the point of wanting to see him removed)
- Apr 19, 2023
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Isn't it True?Holy shit Ian got DESTROYED in that poll
Poor Ian He might be thinking People Prefer Lena more and Love her More but No one does have feeling left for him ** Broken Hearts **You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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The options could be several but the most likely is that EK wanted to do something that differentiates him from GGGB to avoid comparisons as much as possible, that's why he created the character of Ian, because they can be liked to a certain point but then they can start to annoy, that is an option, right?
Generic female MC games are a dime a dozen on this website and the best one already got made by EK so what would be point of making ORS if not for Ian's part. A huge reason why ORS is the best game on here is the dual protagonist mechanic. I don't understand people who want to cut out Ian's part, literally why even play the game at that point? GGGB is right there, alongside a whole bunch of other female MC games where the MC gets seduced by rich assholes and BBC.
- Dec 15, 2020
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Eh, I think ORS is good in spite of the dual protagonist system, not because of it.
I think Eva has floundered around doing revisions and making character changes that it's pretty clear that the dual-protag system is a concept that is hard to develop for a single writer at the scale that she's working with.
Besides, I think there is plenty of content and themes to explore with female main characters that are interesting. Eva doesn't want to be "the one" to explore all of them, that's fair enough.
I have no wish to see Ian removed, not while the game is being made anyway. Even if I had such a wish, I don't see the point when the game's already as far along as it is in development. I'd have still preferred the game be without him if it was only just coming out now, but that's neither here nor there.
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I get that and I was overly facetious to make a point. Where the conversation was headed this poll isn't really helpful anyway.
The more interesting question would be: if for some reason, be it death or soap opera coma, one character would be sidelined for a couple of episodes would this speed up production or streamline branching/writing? Again if that were the case the logical choice based on this limited poll would be Ian. Nothing against the character in general, this is not a question of narrative but rather the 'one-two episodes per year' elephant in the room. So if you gave the patreons (and I was one for a time, from the later stages of GGGB to the earlier episodes of ORS) the choice between the current story paradigm and for the sake of the argument a ~60 day update cycle I am not sure which way they would lean. At this point most discussions (even here) have become a teensy bit of a circlejerk.
And EK at one point has floated the idea of character based updates but imho that doesn't solve the branching problem but exacerbates it.
It might speed up production in the sense you effectively remove half of the story along with characters which are interacting only with the removed MC, but you're doing it at the cost of upsetting at least half of your playerbase who do like to play this character. So i don't feel like it's a tradeoff the game would benefit from.
Also, as long as the character remains in the story you aren't streamlining anything, because plot lines associated with this character will still need to be resolved after they're back (and while they are sidelined you need to account for reactions of rest of the cast to this situation. And if you give the player any options regarding this, you're only increasing the number of variations)