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They are driven mostly by a binary "Yes / No" flag for their relationship, with additional flags to include deviations such as Ian perving on Alison x Jeremy. That's easy to track. What is NOT easy to track however is the dialogues. If you really want to compare complexity of each chapter, you'd have to compare the amount of dialogue. And the fight with Robert in the gallery was 200% more complex than any sex scene development. Sex scenes tend to be very linear in nature, with most of the branches impacting the dialogue that leads to said sex scenes but is not that important during the scene itself.
There's no dialogue in Chapter 6 that would compare to the date with Lena in Chapter 9 in its complexity. The most complex scene in Chapter 6 was hanging out with Holly and Ivy / Louise and it only depended on holly_gym variable.
2 protagonists. NPC characters have agency, develop off-screen and interact with each other. In GGGB nobody interacted with each other unless Ash brought them together. Eva is the only exception to that rule, being the mirror to Ashley. So, if in GGGB Eva could forget about side characters entirely if they were not featured in the update, this time, even if they're not present in the chapter, Eva still has to think of something that they're doing at the time they're not present. How have Cindy and Axel's photoshoots progressed if Ian didn't come along and Lena didn't come to make him finish early?
And finally, about "Decisions from chapter 2 not impacting content in chapter 9". Blocking Jeremy's advances for Alison in Chapter 3 ("Alison is only mine") prevents him from ever raising the threesome topic to Ian. So, there are no clear rules of whether some "minor" dialogue choices can end up being not really minor. Hell, Lena can bring up the fact that Ian showed her Peoplegram to Jeremy if he complains about her sexting with him, daring him to face this weird inner conflict of why he was okay to show her off to him (and potentially discovering her Stalkfap thanks to that gesture which is only different from sexting based on interaction). So, in theory, we have one seemingly random decision coupled with Ian dating Lena and Lena's Stalkfap content potentially opening a door for Ian's cuck route with Lena. But that depends on whether Eva remembers that small choice or not.
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1) Colorist
2) Freelance coder that only helps with complex tasks
3) Freelance background artist
That's it for paid help. Then you have myself and Lara helping with proofreading, testing and bug-hunting.
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- Jun 11, 2017
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If this is yet another GGGB character, then ORS is a sequel of sorts so I don't understand the desire to never have it similar to GGGB
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This game is not supposed to be another mindless sex filled man eating floozies diary,
but a lot of gamers still want mindless totally plot denying nonsense sex in ORS too.
but a lot of gamers still want mindless totally plot denying nonsense sex in ORS too.
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Its true that complexity takes time, But thats wat makes the game worth playing. Thats y eva's games are Superb!!
I'm a latecomer to this game. I wanted to know who some of the more interesting love interests are for Ian and Lena? I think Ian can get with Holly and she tries to become hotter for example?
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Trick to Ian - keep fighting Jeremy from date raping girls all the time.
As a bartender, sure thing he is slipping all the molly in their drinks.
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a cuck route with holly or cindy would be way hotter they have more potential cindy with axel and fame (maybe with rich grandpa too and competition with ivy and lena maybe beef between cindy and ivy she can be evil )and holly would be so hot in generel with all the corruption if lena and ivy try to push her in the future,partys,drugs show her the world she was missing and teach her some tricks for her relationship with ian
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There's a scene where Lena masturbates to BBC porn featuring Iris
Another plus for Nat is that her character pretty-much stays the same regardless of the player's choices in GGGB, with only (comparatively) slight variations that could easily be explained away in ORS if even mentioned. No need to make two character variations in ORS this way. There were several GGGB characters that could apply to though.
Fingers crossed for Iris or some of the pool party gang, but my imaginary money's on Nat. For all we know, it'll be the landwhale. Stan gets a girlfriend?
Also agree that it might be an original non GGGB character in the silhouette.
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By far one of the hottest scenes in the game imo. Wasnt expecting it at all.
I know your actual point here was on seemingly minor decisions majorly affecting future plot points. Totally agree. As an aside though (I know it was just an example to illustrate your explanation), I don't think showing vs not showing Lena's Peoplegram to Jeremy would come to anything more than a hidden stat point towards a path & possibly a comment in an argument. All seemingly innocuous decisions that themselves create a pivotal factor have so-far shown themselves within a chapter or two. IMO it would be poor game design for an innocuous action in the first two chapters to prove pivotal 10 chapters later. As much as it might make logical or narrative sense, in a game design sense, it's the sort of thing players rip their hair out over. I have faith Eva would try to avoid it.
Though you know 10x more about this game than anyone in the forum & likely patreon, so maybe there's something about Chapter 10 you know that we don't yet.
(Kidding. I know it was in theory).
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Free molly? Nice. Jeremy's more generous than I thought. You'd figure a real scumbag would use roofies, where he's just slipping people a good time.
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Yeah, a guy who uses fairly expensive club drugs to drink spiking must be living the "sharing is caring" principle.
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Yeah, that’s an important aspect that counts in her favour. Of course we don't know what Eva wants with the cameo either, and my suggestion took it for granted that the person will be a sexual option for the protagonists. It could be a person who comes in and plays an important role in one scene, and then steps back into the periphery; or it could be someone who'll stay for the rest of the story but play a smaller, more easter-egg-like role. But Nat is definitely among the characters it would be a bad idea to introduce and then not write any sexual content with. While the landwhale is on the other side of that scale …
When considering the different GGGB cameo options, I've been sceptical about the pool party gang. But that's because I think that path is so over-the-top and way too porny, especially Ashley's character development. Thinking more about it, it could be a good idea. Just develop the pool party character(s) slightly more so that they don't just feel like props in a completely straightforward "here's your BBC gangbang" scene, and let any interactions play out without changing Lena into what I guess would be referred to as "a mindless slut". Similar themes, but just with the added depth that ORS generally has compared to GGGB. I think it would be fairly easy to portray how Lena could be drawn to some more extreme situations than she's been in until now—especially considering the obsession with Jeremy's big cock—while she still keeps that other part of her intact, that wants to act good and proper. Not as the good girl gone bad-Ash, but as the both good and bad girl-Lena who's continually being drawn between those two, the same way she's been up until now.
Edit: I'm obviously not talking about another pool party gangbang scene with the same guys, because that would be way too similar, but one or two of them as a part of a route with some similar themes—in a way Eva would be more suited than me to decide how would play out.