Badboll

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All the characters that COULD be interesting are pidgeonholed into secondary roles; like Wade or Emma.
well thats what you call an opinion to me Emma and Wade are completely uninteresting. Minerva to me is also a waste of time.
While I agree with you that IanxLena is probably the worst part of this game in many ways and when the game is done, I am probably going to play IanxHolly route first and Lena the massive slut on the side.
But Holly doesn't really get enough love from Eva in my opinion. Cindy is also ok but that route needs way more work before it's good.
I don't think I have played Lena as anything but a whore so I can't speak to how she is if you play her faithful to Ian.
I just have a feeling your playthrough is going to be really boring if you play it that way. Maybe the dialogue changes a bit.
But Lena was definitely a slut before the game even began, she was pretty much Axels sex slave. Which she would still be right now if she didn't find out he boned Cherry. Ian is the only one you can make a choice for out of the two if you want him to be a manwhore or not. Lena's just very possessive of anyone she has sex with, she can bone anyone and everything while dating Ian and still get mad Ivy sleeps with the DJ. Makes absolutely no sense to me anyway. If she's dating Ian she should not be mad at anyone else for sleeping with someone that's not Ian. If she's not dating Ian she should still not be mad at Ivy for sleeping with someone that she's not even dating. But I guess Lena is going to figure that out herself given the choices presented there.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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I don't think I have played Lena as anything but a whore so I can't speak to how she is if you play her faithful to Ian.
I just have a feeling your playthrough is going to be really boring if you play it that way. Maybe the dialogue changes a bit.
Yup, it's fairly boring.

My bigger issue is the contrast in dialogue between different playstyles; if you play Ian as a supposed "Chad player", he still has these whiny insecure introspectives, like "Well, I probably should come clean about my other relationship to her" whereas Lena has the exact opposite in the same situation, stuff like "He'll never know how much I think about Axel/Mike". In other words, you CAN play the game as an Ian player and Lena faithful, but everything feels off in the dialogue, and it's pretty obvious what the "canon" is meant to be.

Indeed, I do wish Holly had more, and I always look forward to new Alison stuff. The jeremy interactions are a low point for me with that group - the far more interesting stuff is when Alison is separate from this whole group of low lifes.
 

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I have several routes saved and for me the most fun and rewarding by far is loyal Lena x loyal Ian.
My Lena on said route does not have strange thoughts or anything like that and enjoy being a slut for Ian; In the end the game offers you dozens of alternatives and it is up to each person to choose which paths to follow according to their taste, there are no better or worse ones.
 
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Rickster82

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In terms of content or the amount of content, this is perhaps the weakest update or chapter so far.
 

camube

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Well, in chapter 1 she already tells Stan that Axel was unfaithful to her and betrayed her like that... In chapter 2 she tells her mother on the phone that Axel cheated on her and lied to her many times and shortly after she decides to call him on the phone and she reproaches him for it; What we don't know is that it was with Cherry until that moment that she mentioned.
time for a replay then probably to refresh my memory
 
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Zara Scarlet

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because Lena behaves like a nymphomaniac for 90% of the game,
Ian on the other hand fucks but with due exigency he is not a pussy psychopath like Jeremi, for example in the game despite his flashiness, Ivy is less, but much less of a slut than Lena, the sickest ones in this game are Jeremy and Lena, daughter others for better or worse are normal, excluding someone else, but the two mentioned are the most disgusting, whether I choose the path, Lena always has the streak of a slut, and I tell you that to make her be loyal, you have to do only one precise path, because at a small mistake she immediately becomes slutty.
She only behaves like a nympho if you choose for her to be one. What part of making a choice don't you get?

You also claim that 90% of the game she acts like a nympho. The most times Lena can have sex in any one playthrough, is 30 times. Of that she can have sex with Ian on 12 occasions. Therefore, even if she cheats on him as much as she can, and has sex as many times as she could with other people before they started dating, it still only represents 60%. So I'm afraid you're way out with that figure.

In any case, if Ian has sex with all the women he can. He's having like twice as much sex as Jeremy. Jeremy is fucking Louise, Alison, Emma and eventually Lena. Whereas Ian is fucking Lena, Cindy, Alison, Emma, Cherry, Louise and Minerva. And he's actively pursuing Ivy and Jessica. Lena can be having sex with Ian, Robert, Mike, Axel, Marcel, Jeremy, Louise, Holly and Ivy. So slightly more than Ian, but not massively so as you would have us believing.

There is no real difference between Ian and Lena, except in your imagination.
 

ffive

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This sounds like someone who's never read the lenaXian relationship code and made note of whose conditions are embedded inside whose.

It's pretty obvious how the characters differ.
el oh el.

I don't want to presume anything, so please, tell me how do you think handling of these characters so obviously differs in the game script?
 
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| Vee |

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For those who wondering about how we will know if AxelxCindy is would be on Cindy's trip or not, by by these means
  1. Cindy may come from her trip as Axel's GF(low chance) or changed as we see Alison but not like Alison.
  2. Cindy may be going on same yacht and beaches where Lena is going and they may be rivals competing for same project or a collab/joint photoshoot session
  3. we may hear from Cindy that she's breaking up with Wade and got a date with Axel next week (after coming from trip).
Can't think of anymore(yawning).
4. Cindy may post something on her social media or if Lena an Ivy are on same yacht and beaches Ivy may post something or tells Ian after the trip
 

Hahn1900

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Well... iam not a fan of alphas/betas and such, most of the tiome i avoid to play those... i got bored and thought "ah what the fuck its ORS"

Started chapter 11 again for my Lena/Ian route, and came to chapter 12... so far so good, Ian goes to the mall, buys a nice gift for Lena thinking about Gillian for a moment and so on and than out of nowhere Ian visits Cindy and they fucked... huh? In this playthrough Ian didnt do anything with Cindy. She throws him out before the Axel Photoshoot and thats it... so, Bug it is. Will just skip the scene and hope its just one bug without consequences, but that is some major bug here.

So... yeah... its a reminder to not do alphas/betas and such again. I recommend everyone to just wait for the final release.
 

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1. I think the only way that happens is if Ian completely ignores Cindy and Wade's problems and doesn't pursue anything sexual or romantic with Cindy.
2. Thank fuck I'm not going to find out because my Lena rejected Billy's proposition. The guy is obnoxious and talks out of his ass.
3. Much like option 1, it should in theory, be based on the choices made by the player. But if Axel is still lamenting over Lena even after getting Cindy... then he needs the ass whooping of a lifetime. As if he doesn't need one already.
IMO Billy's trip will be a just a porno trope nothing more(forgot who already mentioned about going deep in porn industry).

What I think will be interesting to see is if Lena is a druggie but faithful and/or just lesbian how will she restrain herself, with Ivy perhaps?
 

Zara Scarlet

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I don't think I have played Lena as anything but a whore so I can't speak to how she is if you play her faithful to Ian.
I just have a feeling your playthrough is going to be really boring if you play it that way
Basically, you miss out a lot of sex scenes, and just get the existing scenes with Ian. It also depends on whether you allow Lena to have sex with Louise, Holly and Ivy, because apart from one scene with Ivy, the game doesn't seem to class those scenes as cheating.

The main difference though, is it forces Lena to do without Seymour's money. And his animosity towards her, means that she's blacklisted from virtually every modelling job in Baluart. So Lena really has to make money wherever she can.

If you open up their relationship though, then it presents the possibility of them having threesomes, depending on what Ian and Lena said were their sexual fantasies, during Ivy's birthday party. So far this has led to a threesome with Louise, if Ian and Lena said they both wanted a threesome with another woman. But if Lena fantasises about having sex with two guys, after that threesome she asks Ian if he'd be willing to do that for her, and Ian says he'll think about it. So I assume that's going to become an option down the line ( and I can't imagine it will be anybody but Jeremy). So with an open relationship, it increases the sex options, whilst remaining technically faithful.
 
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Xupuzulla

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The only reason Ian exists in this game is to be cucked by the real mc
I would sissify him given half a chance and lock him in a room with Axel

Would be a fitting end for this fop
Based.
We all know Lena is the real mc,even the patreon polls show this.
The tournament,the book contest,all a charade for the real canon path.
The loser simp cuck Ian path.
 

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For what it's worth, the variable which stores this choice is documented as follows:
Python:
default v12_cindy_rel = 0                # How Ian handles the conversation w/cindy (ian_cindy_love: 2-set boundaries/1-trust her/0-breakup) /// (ian_cindy_dating: 3-confess love/ 2-play it cool/1-tense/0-breakup)
So, the option to "set some ground rules" is apparently there, although perhaps the way EK chooses to deliver it is different from how you'd have done it. The option in question is
Python:
            "{image=icon_charisma.webp}Play it cool" if ian_charisma > 7 or ian_charisma > 6 and ian_chad > 3:
followed by
Python:
            "{image=icon_wits.webp}You're playing with me..." if ian_wits > 7 or ian_wits > 6 and v12_cindy_rel == 1 or ian_wits > 5 and v12_cindy_rel == 2:
Alright so it seems in ian_cindy_love you can get v12_cindy_rel = 2 (setting boundries) max and on ian_cindy_dating you can get v12_cindy_rel = 3 (confessing love) or v12_cindy_rel = 2 (playing it cool). That means the path of both ian_cindy_love and ian_cindy_dating
at v12_cindy_rel = 2 would be same down the line:oops: but if EK wants to keep them separate than she will use check ian_cindy_love.

Ian playing it cool may not be endangered it seems.
Now this would be interesting to see if that will be the case:coffee:. What do you think?
 

Hahn1900

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so the beta will have Lena content?
or is this the end of the update?
I got the feeling its not even half of the real update. Even only for ian it was very short. As i said earlier, i normaly avoid alphas and such, and i know why i do so most of the time... i tried it anyways this time and it was more or less a regret, its cleary far from finished and has some major bugs too which dont have to make it in a release, not even an alpha.

Well, lesson learned again, no aplhas and betas for me i should have sticked with that.
 

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if Ivy, Lena or Cherry are on the same boat with Cindy, how well do you think they will get along?
i guess any other option other then "i trust you" will send Cindy on the porn/drugs/prostitution path
 
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