Reaurt

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WTF are you talking about? For being an underdog, I would say Ian's doing more than fine. Of course it depends on how you play the game, but in my second playthrough, Ian fucked both Cherry and Alison (while Jeremy only fucked Louise and can't score with Eve). If we count Lena and Holly both falling in love with him, Jeremy is waaaay behind. Of course, there is a situation with Cindy but could we really expect sex with girl like her after one evening together?
Yeah it's all about how you play it. That much is like GGGB, the player option to guide the characters in certain directions based on their preference (thug, bimbo, good, loyal, etc). ORS seems like it's similar, although more constrained by the world-building and preferences of the other written characters. I suspect Ian can grow to be more of a player once you rebuild his confidence after Gillian, or more of a romantic boyfriend type, or more of a sub type, depending on how the story plays out and what choices you make.
 

Ceesko

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WTF are you talking about? For being an underdog, I would say Ian's doing more than fine. Of course it depends on how you play the game, but in my second playthrough, Ian fucked both Cherry and Alison (while Jeremy only fucked Louise and can't score with Eve). If we count Lena and Holly both falling in love with him, Jeremy is waaaay behind. Of course, there is a situation with Cindy but could we really expect sfuex with girl like her after one evening together?

Sorry but how do you fuck both? Do you have to fuck Cherry first?
 
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Ceesko

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Let's talk about Wade for a sec :)
The dude is so chill and laid back, he doesn't care about anything :D
just give him his videogame and leave him alone LOL :D

when they were at the bar, and they are talking about how Ian is a player for seeing two models, Wade is like hat's off to you man, bravo! But not in a jealous way but as a true friend :)

Did not say a single bad thing or some stupid remark like D-bag Jeremy or stupid AF Perry (who are supposed to be his "closest friends")
i kinda feel sorry for him for what is Cindy going to do to him.

Or maybe he just doesn't care at all? :D
Wade deserves to be cucked. He is such a slob with no interests except gaming despite have a cool ass and gorgeous gf like cindy and great friends and bros.
 

Reaurt

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Sorry but how do you fuck both? Do you have to fuck Cherry first?
Yeah, I have yet to test run it myself, but I think you have get a Will point (book review stuff with Minerva and Holly), go for Cherry first, and then go for Allison in the 3rd Chapter.
 

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Sorry but how do you fuck both? Do you have to fuck Cherry first?
Yes, you have to fuck Cherry first. Then you will have another call from Alison asking you to meet again. You either go with her or you go with Lena/Holly. If you go with Alison, you can use your WILL (if you have 1 point) to continue the evening in Ian's bedroom.
 

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Nobody's talking about Mr. Ward and he's one of my favourite characters so far. The dinner scene with him was awesome in presenting him as a very real and well thought out villain. You can get how intelligent he is and how utilitarian and totalitarian he is, with his Nietzschian views, and I loved being able to out-smart him if Lena had enough wits and beat him at his own game when he gets all philosophical.

I feel like the character writing (and in general) is leagues above GGGB (and of course any other erotic game). I haven't seen such an interesting villain or interesting dialogue interaction with one in any other VN, porn or not, or many AAA games. I'm looking forward to see what Seymour has in store for Lena... I also loved the fights you can have with Minerva as Ian and I found the honest review hilarious:ROFLMAO:
 

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Let's talk about Wade for a sec :)
The dude is so chill and laid back, he doesn't care about anything :D
just give him his videogame and leave him alone LOL :D

when they were at the bar, and they are talking about how Ian is a player for seeing two models, Wade is like hat's off to you man, bravo! But not in a jealous way but as a true friend :)

Did not say a single bad thing or some stupid remark like D-bag Jeremy or stupid AF Perry (who are supposed to be his "closest friends")
i kinda feel sorry for him for what is Cindy going to do to him.

Or maybe he just doesn't care at all? :D
Maybe he'll actually get turned on by Ian cucking him :unsure:
 

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Finally tried it, more content than I expected I'm pleasantly surprised. Good writing, you feel really immersed.
Though as usual, I can't help but focus on the lusty choices. In particular, making Lena, ahem, a huge slut. I can't help it I like it.
And as mentionned above by someone, regarding this kind of depraved paths, I hope it won't only be cheating left and right for the MCs and that there will be a possibility for them to be into either swinging or open relationship.
 
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maaarco2014

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just finished the third chapter and I am already looking forward to the 4th. :love:would I just like to see a small cameo with Ashley as a natural person and not only in a porn video (1 chapter)?
 

Reaurt

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Nobody's talking about Mr. Ward and he's one of my favourite characters so far. The dinner scene with him was awesome in presenting him as a very real and well thought out villain. You can get how intelligent he is and how utilitarian and totalitarian he is, with his Nietzschian views, and I loved being able to out-smart him if Lena had enough wits and beat him at his own game when he gets all philosophical.
I agree! I thought this storyline was fascinating, I wonder where it will go. It's challenging writing that sort of material, but I bet Evakiss did the best she could. I was amused by how Seymour bashes people for not understanding Nietzsche and then turns around and renames one of Nietzsche's concepts in a way that wouldn't fly with the man himself (I'm sure there's a reason Nietzsche calls it the Child, not the Master). Ward is obviously full of himself, but that makes his character interesting. I also wonder how the beggar will come into it, I sense Evakiss is laying the groundwork for a potential route there in opposing Ward.
 

Avaron1974

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You know what?, it is really difficult to play as Ian, it has everything against it, it is not being fun for me (I am a woman),
I have the same problem.

I don't like that part of the story but due to the crossover i'm worried of missing parts if I skip.

It's a bit awkward when you want to play something but only care about half the story. I really wanted to like it but I can't get into this multi protag thing at all.
 
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I have the same problem.

I don't like that part of the story but due to the crossover i'm worried of missing parts if I skip.

It's a bit awkward when you want to play something but only care about half the story. I really wanted to like it but I can't get into this multi protag thing at all.
It's kinda the same for me but reversed, only really care for Ian
 

Avaron1974

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It's kinda the same for me but reversed, only really care for Ian
I guess it's the same for a few people.

You'll have guys that don't really want to play the female side and some of us fems that are really only interested in the female side.

I know GGGB had a female protag and guys enjoyed it but given the choice I would assume a good chunk of those would prefer to play as a guy.

I think it's always a gamble with multi protag games. I know it would be a lot more work but I wonder if given the option to pick one would have gone down better.
 

Reaurt

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I guess it's the same for a few people.

You'll have guys that don't really want to play the female side and some of us fems that are really only interested in the female side.

I know GGGB had a female protag and guys enjoyed it but given the choice I would assume a good chunk of those would prefer to play as a guy.

I think it's always a gamble with multi protag games. I know it would be a lot more work but I wonder if given the option to pick one would have gone down better.
Yeah. As a guy, I'm enjoying both protags because I can identify with Ian and his struggles and I can find the challenge in trying to get what he / I want out of his route. But I like playing Lena's route because she's hot and has a nice personality, so I want to see her in sexy situations. But if Ian isn't attractive to some players and those players have a hard time identifying with him, then that route will land flat.
 

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I have the same problem.

I don't like that part of the story but due to the crossover i'm worried of missing parts if I skip.

It's a bit awkward when you want to play something but only care about half the story. I really wanted to like it but I can't get into this multi protag thing at all.
My comment was focused on Lena getting everything very easy as a porn game, but with Ian for some reason the plot requires realism.

At some point Lena's decisions will have bad consequences for her?.

So far, do Lena's statistics matter? With Ian, if they matter, can you lose content if you have them down.

With Lena it seems that only the statistic of lust matters.
 
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I guess it's the same for a few people.

You'll have guys that don't really want to play the female side and some of us fems that are really only interested in the female side.

I know GGGB had a female protag and guys enjoyed it but given the choice I would assume a good chunk of those would prefer to play as a guy.

I think it's always a gamble with multi protag games. I know it would be a lot more work but I wonder if given the option to pick one would have gone down better.
I agree almost completely. But I don't think that the option to pick one would increase the workload that much, since Eva already has to write 2 sides. It could even shorten it a bit since Eva could just treat the other mc as npc and not care about all the variables that are bound to happen as someone plays it. But we will see, maybe the the multi protag will pay off in the future its only the third update after all.

One thing that also bothers me in the double protag thing is that it feels so weird to have romace between Lena and Ian, since u are the one controlling them both. I said that earlier too, but might aswell say it again as it's atleast mildly relevant here.
 
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