VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Yokanzo]

In my game Lena fucked Robert and some other guys for a bit but Ian had Alison and I think a couple other girls. But I found it immersive that way in that he was just a rebound guy she fucked without having any feelings for him, dumped him when it was convenient and gradually went for Ian. Ian likewise had his own situation and it culminated in them becoming a couple.

Where I fucked up was trusting that I still had a way out of the Seymour situation and Lena got railroaded into being his sex toy by cosplaying that scene from True Lies. I guess there were strings attached in those photo shoots but I didn't expect her actions to cause the guy to basically pull strings to ruin her other jobs so she'd have no choice but to be with him. Especially after entering a committed relationship. THAT is some real cucking/NTR shit right there. You only get let off on a technicality.

Anyway not sure why everyone is so weird about Jeremy in this game. He's not a threat unless you work hard to make him one. There are charismatic fuck boys out there who can and will attract all kinds of women including the ones you like in real life. His character isn't out of the ordinary other than the weird emphasis some people place on him. Alison isn't even that special. She reminds me of people I knew in real life who are keeners in their professional lives but also sexually frustrated with their crushes not reciprocating so they go out and fuck anyone else to feel better. Guys do it too.

Eva Kiss seems to have provided enough variation that its really up to the player to decide how much of a trainwreck everyone becomes.

 

[BlandChili]

Is it worth pursuing Cindy at the expense of your friendship with Wade?
I had an option where I could tell Wade to fight for her and I'm not sure if that causes him to clean up his act or not.

Worth depends on what you want with Cindy I suppose.
She has the beginnings of both a romantic route and a more lecherous one where Ian asks her to keep cheating on Wade.

 

[Canto Forte]

The seymour asshole is just like the first asshole working with Lena and treating her like dirt,
then asking her out like a fking psycho - stay the fkk away from her you moronig asshole!

Seymour tells nude life statue posing Lena point blank he is a fkking beginner at photography but will pick it up
if she moddels for him, if she stands nakkid for his perving on her - his idea is psychotic right after he is a retard asshole to her in the restaurant - fkk you you asshole idiot, Lena is nobody”s toy you hurt monger asshole!

Do none of y”all remember what American Psycho does to his nekkid life artforms women?

Axel has been beating Lena and using her in the past, that is why she broke up/escaped/ran for her life,
but this game offers assholes the possibility to make her go back to the asshole, pretty much like all the assholes
in this game, he already wants to use Lena as a lifeless sex doll adn that was a huge red flag right from the start.

Lena does not need any of these assholes, that is the catch, they keep pursuing her but treat her like dirt,
so why the hell should we push Lena into them? There is no upside, only in her head.
In their demented ashsoles head, they think they are this gift to women and them being assholes gets them girls.

This is why this world is going to shit every damn day.

Where I fucked up was trusting that I still had a way out of the Seymour situation and Lena got railroaded into being his sex toy by cosplaying that scene from True Lies. I guess there were strings attached in those photo shoots but I didn't expect her actions to cause the guy to basically pull strings to ruin her other jobs so she'd have no choice but to be with him. Especially after entering a committed relationship. THAT is some real cucking/NTR shit right there. You only get let off on a technicality.

The premise of the game right in the beginning is Ian trying to get with Allison and is asking Remy for pointers to be able to do so, him being this incel trope nobody and
Remy being this bull asshole who just grabs girls and molests them kind a like date rape.

Then the night out comes and Ian has to fight for a lot of points during his first night out with Allison, because Remy is actually drawn groping her and molesting her right then and there like she was a fkking lifeless sex doll.

That is the disconnect: Ian tells Remy he wants to date Allison,Remy agrees to help him, but then actively steals her if Ian makes even the slightest mistake.

I had to play with the mod to actually get anywhere with Ian in this game about assholes
getting girls dropped on them all the time, but not MC, game forbid!

 

[Yokanzo]

Lol. I played Ian like a healthy balanced human being leveling up my stats in a balanced equal way. There were a few missed opportunities and there was that scene with Alison being groped by Jeremy but at that time she was fair game and she let it happen so its not like he's stealing anyone. You never "had" her in the first place... By the end of my chapter 9 playthrough my Ian was competent in Jiu Jitsu, got the upper hand in his career, hooked Perry up with Emma, became an accomplished writer and was banging Lena on the regular and even though she fucked other guys she likes him the best. In fact the whole concerns about them seeing other people were raised and addressed in the game with them going exclusive.

I don't think there's anything unusual about what's going on here other than the whole Seymour thing.

There's no incel vibe here. Don't project your personal insecurities on the characters.

I mean put it this way. If you were a woman who looked like Lena or Alison or Ivy what do you think would happen if you put yourself in group situations where there were guys other girls liked? Same shit as Jeremy. He's a good looking dude, with a big dick and a very social job where he bartends. It doesn't take much, you could do it too. Just work out and practice your social skills and work in a job that gives your opportunities (I.e. bartender).

 

[Canto Forte]

So to you, if you go out and you tell your friend/supposed ally who supposedly is helping you in getting this girl you liked, but he goes right then and there and gropes that girl, you would still be friends with the asshole, righT? She be your fair game?

 

[Yokanzo]

So to you, if you go out and you tell your friend/supposed ally who supposedly is helping you in getting this girl you liked, but he goes right then and there and gropes that girl, you would still be friends with the asshole, righT? She be your fair game?

I have a friend with a natural charisma and confidence that draws women to him. One time he and and another friend of mine were at odds over a girl. He put up an effort to avoid any kind of contact with the girl but she kept pushing it and eventually he fell for her too and the other friend kept saying he stole her when there was nothing to steal. I don't think Jeremy went out of his way to "Steal" her she was playing him and Ian simultaneously with Jeremy as a sort of placeholder since it was Ian who she really wanted. But if Ian isn't reciprocating she's happy to take the silver medal and Jeremy isn't going to give a shit at that point because she's pushing the initiative.

Alison is the kind of girl who likes to go for what's easy and familiar because it gives her comfort and helps soothe her insecurities or need for affection. The minute you give her any kind of attention it's like catnip, she goes crazy. It's why my Ian just treated her like a sex friend and I even told Jeremy I'd be willing to share because I didn't give a shit.

Theres a drinking game scenario with Jeremy, Ivy, Lena and Louise where Lena could suck his dick and open up a route with him, but if Ian is with Lena she has to absolutely insist on it at first.

"Stealing" someone, especially someone you haven't seriously been dating and at this point only exchanged a few texts with is fair game. Girl gets to decide and if she really wants it she's gonna make it clear.

Long story short - if it wasn't Jeremy it would be someone else. There's always gonna be another guy. It's very rare people serial date. Most people play the field unless they get caught in a fast moving whirlwind romance where they get married 2 months later.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

Most likely it won't be a cuck scenario, but definitely you can view it as a hotwife/sharing scenario.

That just sounds like cuckoldry with extra steps.

But seriously, I'm not saying that specific situation is Ian being a cuck but that is clearly headed to being a possibility. Just check out the dialogue you shared:
"My cock didn't look anything like Jeremy's between her tits, though. I can't believe I'm jerking off to this..."

Not to mention Ian jerks of to a port of a girl who looks a lot like his ex that cheated on him. Ian cuck route is definitely coming.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Thinking more about it, it could be a good idea. Just develop the pool party character(s) slightly more so that they don't just feel like props in a completely straightforward "here's your BBC gangbang" scene, and let any interactions play out without changing Lena into what I guess would be referred to as "a mindless slut". Similar themes, but just with the added depth that ORS generally has compared to GGGB. I think it would be fairly easy to portray how Lena could be drawn to some more extreme situations than she's been in until now—especially considering the obsession with Jeremy's big cock—while she still keeps that other part of her intact, that wants to act good and proper. Not as the good girl gone bad-Ash, but as the both good and bad girl-Lena who's continually being drawn between those two, the same way she's been up until now.

Edit: I'm obviously not talking about another pool party gangbang scene with the same guys, because that would be way too similar, but one or two of them as a part of a route with some similar themes—in a way Eva would be more suited than me to decide how would play out.

Read you loud and clear. Lena's pool party gangbang scene confirmed! I just wonder if it will be "Black Guy #1" or the illustriously named "Black Guy #2".

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

The seymour asshole is just like the first asshole working with Lena and treating her like dirt,
then asking her out like a fking psycho - stay the fkk away from her you moronig asshole!

Seymour tells nude life statue posing Lena point blank he is a fkking beginner at photography but will pick it up
if she moddels for him, if she stands nakkid for his perving on her - his idea is psychotic right after he is a retard asshole to her in the restaurant - fkk you you asshole idiot, Lena is nobody”s toy you hurt monger asshole!

Do none of y”all remember what American Psycho does to his nekkid life artforms women?

Axel has been beating Lena and using her in the past, that is why she broke up/escaped/ran for her life,
but this game offers assholes the possibility to make her go back to the asshole, pretty much like all the assholes
in this game, he already wants to use Lena as a lifeless sex doll adn that was a huge red flag right from the start.

Lena does not need any of these assholes, that is the catch, they keep pursuing her but treat her like dirt,
so why the hell should we push Lena into them? There is no upside, only in her head.
In their demented ashsoles head, they think they are this gift to women and them being assholes gets them girls.

This is why this world is going to shit every damn day.



The premise of the game right in the beginning is Ian trying to get with Allison and is asking Remy for pointers to be able to do so, him being this incel trope nobody and
Remy being this bull asshole who just grabs girls and molests them kind a like date rape.

Then the night out comes and Ian has to fight for a lot of points during his first night out with Allison, because Remy is actually drawn groping her and molesting her right then and there like she was a fkking lifeless sex doll.

That is the disconnect: Ian tells Remy he wants to date Allison,Remy agrees to help him, but then actively steals her if Ian makes even the slightest mistake.

I had to play with the mod to actually get anywhere with Ian in this game about assholes
getting girls dropped on them all the time, but not MC, game forbid!

Have you ever considered writing an advice column?

 

[Night Hacker]

Is it worth pursuing Cindy at the expense of your friendship with Wade?
I had an option where I could tell Wade to fight for her and I'm not sure if that causes him to clean up his act or not.

YUP! Wade is a slothful, useless git who doesn't deserve Cindy. I want to take her (heck, it's more like Wade throwing her away the way he mistreats her) , and then rub it in Wade's face.

But everyone's different. I just happen to be the sort of man who can't stand to see women mistreated.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Have you ever considered writing an advice column?

Yep, because people just need advice on how to write literally the same thing over a dozen posts. Commendable skill, you know.

 

[BlandChili]

B) The definition of a "cuck" is a HUSBAND whose wife fools around on him and he enjoys it (or tolerates it).

If you want to be technical about definitions then a cuckold requires neither enjoyment or even knowledge of the infidelity.

 

[Repressed]

Don't remember when I played it, but has anything happened after the old guy made the female MC with the sex toys?

 

[BlandChili]

That's bullshit. How in the fuck would you be a damn cuck if you didn't know about it?!
At least in a modern definition, it refers to a husband who at least tolerates it.

In any event, in this discussion, it has nothing what so ever to do with friends!!!

A cuckold is a term used to describe a person within a specific context, it's not an identity or moniker you assume yourself.

And no, the discussion has nothing to do with friends, you were talking about a term you don't understand. If you don't wish to be corrected then don't talk about specific definitions.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Don't remember when I played it, but has anything happened after the old guy made the female MC with the sex toys?

Well, I don't know what you mean by "happened," but after this scene comes Lena's monologue and the Chapter ends. If you're asking if there was sex, no, there wasn't.

 

[helioss555]

I have always wanted to ask this question ever since I played this game a long time ago : why isn't there a single redeemable guy in this game? (other than the MC)

Seymour : rich corrupt CEO who treats everyone like shit if they don't benefit him.
Wade : depressed and burnt out, understandable. but doesn't move his ass or do anything about it then shouts at Cindy for wanting something different.
Stan : literally everything he does is just Incel behavior.
Robert : I really dislike Robert. as soon as i told him ''I don't like you that way'' he immediately screwed that restaurant job for me. not even the cat likes him. hes so petty.
Mike : Cheats on his girlfriend with the whole club.
Jeremy : Cheats on his girlfriend with the whole GAME. and not giving a shit about her feelings, but Patronizes me when I make a move on Cindy. truly a role model.
Alex : I don't even need to say anything....Cheater, stalker, obsessed...Ugh..

Perry is the only one who is not Ass.

 

[MisterABC]

What's wrong with Stan?! He's probably the most normal guy in the game. I bet Stan is closer to being like most of the people in here than any other! You know, sitting behind his computer... playing porn, fapping away... sound familiar?

Anyhow, to answer your question, there is someone you forgot about... ED... but I'm hoping that changes in the future.
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I hope Lena gets some action with ED. I really hope.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Yep, because people just need advice on how to write literally the same thing over a dozen posts. Commendable skill, you know.

I'm really enjoying their comments, tbh. Because they keep getting batshit-crazier with each consecutive post. Not really worth arguing over at that point, you know? Just sit back and enjoy.

This is my favorite line so far: "whoremongers like moths in the flame. Enjoy the burnt smell! The pyre rages for days."

It's almost like poetry.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Jeremy : Cheats on his girlfriend with the whole GAME. and not giving a shit about her feelings, but Patronizes me when I make a move on Cindy. truly a role model

Not to say Jeremy is in the right for not telling Louise that he doesn't view her as his gf but imo idk if he's being hypocritical here. For one, he doesn't like going after someone else's girlfriend, specifically his friends. So to him going after Cindy is a betrayal of Wade. At least that's how I understand it to be

 

[helioss555]

What's wrong with Stan?! He's probably the most normal guy in the game. I bet Stan is closer to being like most of the people in here than any other! You know, sitting behind his computer... playing porn, fapping away... sound familiar?

Anyhow, to answer your question, there is someone you forgot about... ED... but I'm hoping that changes in the future.
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bro when Lena was getting down with Ian he legit watched them while jerking off LOL. i don't like him at all. at least have the decency to do it on your own room or something but he legit just whipped it out while they were doing it and if you let him watch he leaves his jizz on the floor eugh.

also isn't Ed married? and twice lena's age? (or maybe 3 times) yeah no man lol. I'll just stay away from him.