Rickster82

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I have 2 questions: Has it already been announced that Gillian (Ian's ex) will appear in the game?
Does the Ian Holly Trail officially end after the Book Fair, no matter what you decide?
 

mehGusta

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I have 2 questions: Has it already been announced that Gillian (Ian's ex) will appear in the game?
Does the Ian Holly Trail officially end after the Book Fair, no matter what you decide?
no, Gillian will not appear. evakiss has said she has no intention to do that.
also no, you just have to be not dating Lena at this point and you're good to go. even though i wouldn't say that there is no future content with Ian x Holly if you do, so i wouldn't write her off yet.
 

mommysboiii

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no, Gillian will not appear. evakiss has said she has no intention to do that.
also no, you just have to be not dating Lena at this point and you're good to go. even though i wouldn't say that there is no future content with Ian x Holly if you do, so i wouldn't write her off yet.
thats sad I would love too take gillian back, just too get cheated on again :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Does the Ian Holly Trail officially end after the Book Fair, no matter what you decide?
also no, you just have to be not dating Lena at this point and you're good to go. even though i wouldn't say that there is no future content with Ian x Holly if you do, so i wouldn't write her off yet.
But I feel like it's strange how the Holly Route kind of disappears when you don't go with her to the Book Fair. At least in my Playthrough there was not a single Conversation with Holly in Chapter 8 if you don't go with her. I mean if Ian pushes the Relationship with Holly the whole Game but can't go to the Book fair because one of his best Friends celebrates his birthday (which sounds reasonable?!) how can Holly think there is no chance? It feels odd and I hope this one Event doesn't define the whole Holly Route completely. I mean I have two Playthroughs, one with Holly and one with Cindy so it's not a big Problem but this Scenario just seems kind of weird if you think about it and I hope Ian still can go for Holly if he did everything else before The Book Fair.
 

Ceesko

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Today I was playing the famous Cindy Scene at the End of Chapter 7 again and I keep thinking about it because yes, Cindy is definitely one of the hottest and most interesting Routes for future Updates but also kind of really difficult to handle. Actually I think ths easiest Way for the Game would be some sort of "forbidden affair" between Ian and Cindy behind Wades and other Peoples backs because this could work without changing too much of the Games Status Quo but if Eva is planning a real "Love" Route for Cindy this could be difficult and would change a lot because there should be many steps to reach this Point (Breakup with Wade and the Consequences for the whole Group - Ian maybe losing a lot of friends and the Situation with Wade because of this - Cindy running away from this for a certain time (like she did before) - Ian and Cindy then slowly somehow coming together again and falling in love?) I still don't know how and what to expect with this Route :D

How do you think the Cindy Route will develop in future Updates?
All I know is that cucking Wade with Cindy while he is on the phone or out there looking for here will be the hottest scene in the entire game.
 

Tarmogo

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But I feel like it's strange how the Holly Route kind of disappears when you don't go with her to the Book Fair. At least in my Playthrough there was not a single Conversation with Holly in Chapter 8 if you don't go with her. I mean if Ian pushes the Relationship with Holly the whole Game but can't go to the Book fair because one of his best Friends celebrates his birthday (which sounds reasonable?!) how can Holly think there is no chance? It feels odd and I hope this one Event doesn't define the whole Holly Route completely. I mean I have two Playthroughs, one with Holly and one with Cindy so it's not a big Problem but this Scenario just seems kind of weird if you think about it and I hope Ian still can go for Holly if he did everything else before The Book Fair.
Well the book fair is the defining moment for the Ian/Holly relationship up to this point, so it makes sense to me that if you don't do it things won't progress. If Ian doesn't go then Holly sees it as him turning her down, so not unreasonable that she wouldn't push to try and continue things immediately. Holly's route is one where you can't really attempt to balance it AND other paths at the same time, so if you want Holly you need to focus on her at every opportunity. As far as your comment on the book fair defining Holly's whole path with Ian, I am fairly certain that there will likely be another opportunity in the future with a Holly with a high enough 'change' variable, but that version of Holly will likely be a lot different then that one we see now.
 

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These are 3 Scenarios I can totally see happening with Cindy and I assume Axel is the obvious other Option if Ian doesn't progress the Cindy Story after what happened in Chapter 7. And it's great that you mentioned the Importance of just kissing Cindy or fucking her in Chapter 7 because I also think this is really important for the future of her Route.

I just can't think of any way where Ian and his inner Circle could survive an IanxCindy Path where they actually get together and fall in Love (unless it is at the very end of the Game). So I think IanxCindy is like LenaxJeremy on the other Side the one Route where I can see soo much drama and destruction for Ian and Lena if everybody get's to know what happened.
I think that's where some of the difference between "romance" and "sexual" paths could come into play. Regardless of what the player chooses, Cindy will remain with Wade for a while. If you have chosen to help them mend things, then they will probably have, although I think it would be more interesting if it was more difficult than that and Lena had to play a role too.

For those that went in the alley with Cindy the path could progress mostly the same but with a confrontation taking place at some point about what transpired between them. If they went all the way and had sex they would also have been caught by Ivy and Jeremy, perhaps that path could be more about giving in to the pleasure and rutting like teenagers?
If you kissed her or didn't progress past that you have opened the relationship up but without going all the way. I could see this path as being one of more restraint, where you have to deny the temptation of doing the most attractive character in the game continuously to unlock her romantic content.

Regardless of the specific of those two routes eventually Cindy and Wade will break up.
If you fucked Cindy early then this becomes public knowledge and will influence the friend group. I have a hard time seeing Perry be okay with it.
If you kept your restraint then Cindy becomes single and Ian may be able to romance her normally. Now, obviously she would still be his pal's ex and that is bound to make things awkward but if you've done things "by the book" perhaps Perry will not be hostile.

On other paths Cindy might just leave the friendship group, if she doesn't stay with Wade. Maybe she opens up sexually. Perhaps this happens with both Axel and the path where Ian doesn't even kiss her? I'm unsure about how that last one might play out.
It seems given that the Axel path would lead to a "free Cindy" outcome where she chases the modelling dream and starts fucking around.
I'd love to see her as a part of the SlutLena/Ivy/CorruptedHolly entourage.
 

TamaMountain

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Question is will the sex with Holly always be a One Night Stand because of Lena or can you become Hollys official BF after the scene in the hotel?
By default if you fk Holly after being in a relationship with Lena, Lena will dump you and Ian will become Holly's bf. So no it is not a one night stand.

But you can end up in a situation where both Lena AND Holly dump your ass. One of the ways this can happen is if Ian tells Jeremy he is serious about Lena.
 

Rickster82

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By default if you fk Holly after being in a relationship with Lena, Lena will dump you and Ian will become Holly's bf. So no it is not a one night stand.

But you can end up in a situation where both Lena AND Holly dump your ass. One of the ways this can happen is if Ian tells Jeremy he is serious about Lena.
Thanks. I guess I just need to ignore Lena as much as I can in the next playthrough and trying not to become her bf.
 

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By default if you fk Holly after being in a relationship with Lena, Lena will dump you and Ian will become Holly's bf. So no it is not a one night stand.

But you can end up in a situation where both Lena AND Holly dump your ass. One of the ways this can happen is if Ian tells Jeremy he is serious about Lena.
I beg to differ, If Ian fucked Holly, and Lena is in love with Ian, right after sex, Ian comes clean with Holly, so this becomes a One night stand, next day Ian force himself to tell Lena about Holly, She will be upset and break up with Ian, he end up losing both girl; Lena(after break up), however, can fuck Holly right at the end of Ch8
 

BlandChili

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Is there a way Holly will not be corrupted by Ivy & Lena?
Yeah, sure. Just disagree with Ivy whenever she suggests for Holly to be sexual. By chapter 8 you can tell if Holly will be "corrupted" or not. (I use " because we don't know to what degree she might change yet)

By default if you fk Holly after being in a relationship with Lena, Lena will dump you and Ian will become Holly's bf. So no it is not a one night stand.
There is no default, Ian is given a choice to accept Holly's romance or not. If Ian and Lena love each other then he won't accept Holly's love no matter what, but it's not forced either if Ian and Lena just have a casual thing together, Ian can still walk away from Holly (he gains a +1 in his Chad variable for doing this)
 

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Chad variable?
Lena and Ian have a variable each that seem to influence their preferences in some ways. Ian has ian_chad and Lena has lena_posh.

Both variables are increased when Ian or Lena express approval for the fancier night clubs (Lena can for example lose a point in her "posh" variable if she agrees with Louise about the club where they meet Ivy not being their thing).

Ian also gains the chad variable in certain sexual situations, for example when he denies Holly a relationship. So it seem that "Chad Ian" will make Ian a more sexually casual person too.
Lena also gains posh variables for making an effort out of her looks for Seymour and seems to express a certain degree of materialism with her, since if her "posh" variable is high enough Seymour will gift her with an expensive necklace. She will then lose a point of the "posh" variable if she later sells it.
 

Tarmogo

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Yeah, sure. Just disagree with Ivy whenever she suggests for Holly to be sexual. By chapter 8 you can tell if Holly will be "corrupted" or not. (I use " because we don't know to what degree she might change yet)
I think there will be some degree of change no matter what on the Ivy route, but you can definitely influence what extent it will be. For example, on the book fair trip where Holly and Ivy aren't friends Holly will be wearing her glasses as usual. On the trip where Holly and Ivy are friends, Holly will wear contacts for the first time after Ivy comments on her glasses being ugly early in one of their scenes together. I believe Holly does this independent of the change variable, as on that playthrough I intentionally avoided all instances of the change variable and she still chose to wear the contacts. So I think no matter what Holly will change some if she is friends with Ivy, but Lena is still able to control just how far things go.
 
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Rickster82

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I have a completely different question: Since I only started with OUR RED STRING last Sunday, I have not yet dealt with the person behind it, Eva Kiss. Whether it is a real woman or a pseudonym is irrelevant.
But what is the person like, especially on PATREON?
Is Eva Kiss reliable, loyal, fair?
As we know there are unfortunately enough black sheep at PATREON and people who just "want to milk" their Patreons.

Personally, this game is awesome and made it into my top 3 favorite "Porn Games". Although this game manages to bring in aesthetics and discretion like no other in this genre. Sex is not the first thing that is not wrong.
 

BlandChili

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I think there will be some degree of change no matter what on the Ivy route, but you can definitely influence what extent it will be. For example, on the book fair trip where Holly and Ivy aren't friends Holly will be wearing her glasses as usual. On the trip where Holly and Ivy are friends, Holly will wear contacts for the first time after Ivy comments on her glasses being ugly early in one of their scenes together. I believe Holly does this independent of the change variable, as on that playthrough I intentionally avoided all instances of the change variable and she still chose to wear the contacts. So I think no matter what Holly will change some if she is friends with Ivy, but Lena is still able to control just how far things go.
Yeah, the glasses thing has its own variable that is used only in the bookfair section so far.
Other possible changes just aren't expressed in the variables, but obviously the encourage_holly variable could also play a role here.

I hope the the glasses thing will be given permanence or not depending on if Holly ends up dating either Lena or Ian and giving the player a choice if she presents the issue again, and only be automatic if she remains single with a high change variable. I feel like Ivy's influence has too much auto-pilot as it is, I'd like it if at least Lena could disagree, even if it's just dialogue. It feels a bit odd to play a Lena that deliberately doesn't listen to Ivy's advice herself and often speaks up against it for Holly, but this one time she doesn't have a voice.
 
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