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Good job Grima !!!
It kills time waiting for the update.
It kills time waiting for the update.
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grima_grima Are you still working on adding Lena? I think it's just her and Ian that can't be added at the moment. Great job btw!
Since Lena and Ian are main characters, they have more options, unlike the other secondary chars where we basically have bodies, faces and ornaments. That's why they will require more time to implement. But yes, I will add them in the next few days when I find some time after work
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I dont really care about popular opinion however the chances that something happens between Cindy & Jeremy seem to be very low. Would love to see it happen tho.
Probably going to initiate another playthrough where Lena remains celibate & succumbs to Seymour, and Ian goes around fucking everyone I guess. (or maybe just Cindy, but content in respect of that is fucking bleak af)
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She knows that they will tear her apart !
Wade: "But it's my fucking apartment!"
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Bro, there was a new update. Biggest one so far, look at all the canon scenes people are posting
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Still revising chapter by chapter, it's not as easy to go through a lot of dialogue and make sure to get rid of any inconsistency left from the previous canon.
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Everyone after GGGB: Eva, cool game... however, a little planning ahead might benefit all in the the end.
Eva: I'm so much more creative if things develop organically.
Everyone: O-kay?
Eva (after six releases of ORS): Listen, folks, things get more complicated along the road... let's switch to a bi-monthly release schedule.
Eva (after eight releases of ORS): I'm really stressed out right now... please bear with me.
Eva (after the latest release): Yeah, holiday/covid/whatever... I'm reworking stuff, I don't like some decisions I made in the first place, we'll figure it out (eventually).
G'dammit... that's the reason why people write outlines.
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I knew shit would hit the fan as soon as Eva revealed you will control both Ian and Lena, and when it became apparent that their "red string" is more like a heavy duty rubber band that holds them together tightly and their actions affect the other one constantly - at that point it became obvious how difficult it's gonna be to write this game when plot points start to build up and branch out.
I would probably kill myself if I had to write that, even looking at the spreadsheet/plot tree/whatever Eva is using to keep track of the game has to be daunting. I cannot possibly imagine how to write two simultaneously active protagonists that interact with each other constantly in "organic"/"let's see where the journey takes us" way.
I would probably kill myself if I had to write that, even looking at the spreadsheet/plot tree/whatever Eva is using to keep track of the game has to be daunting. I cannot possibly imagine how to write two simultaneously active protagonists that interact with each other constantly in "organic"/"let's see where the journey takes us" way.
Dugge it's not about the color of skin it's personality that should matter and Ian's lot more fluid and enjoyable than Jeremy and it's not cuz of his skin color
Why are you comparing playable character with his personality dependant on player's choices vs mostly set in stone NPC?
It's obvious that if roles were switched, Jeremy would be "more fluid" and Ian more defined.
You doubt what, basics of character design in a story? Difference in the approach of designing main character vs npc? Blank slate character vs set character?
You clearly do not understand what I said. Replace Ian with Jeremy, and Jeremy with Ian in your post and that's how the game would look like if you switched main characters. Now you have nerd Jeremy trying to cover that up and be more manly, by working out and trying to get some and Ian, wannabe player trying to score left and right (which is something you can do in game anyway, because Ian as an MC does not have strong set character and is more of a blank slate) after his "devastating" first relationship where his girlfriend has cheated on him.
Because that's how he was written as an npc. You clearly did not understand what I wrote.
You are desperately clinging to the fact that Ian is more complex character than Jeremy and that's why Jeremy could not be a main character which is absolutely wrong. It's by design - Ian is more complex, because he's specifically written to be the main character with available choices changing the game's story and Jeremy to be an npc, which can only react to those choices. Design can be easily changed, roles can be reversed.
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So basically you don't want Jeremy as the MC. You want someone who looks like Jeremy. With a completely different character development.
Cause at the moment, Jeremy is boring AF.
I'm truly hoping he'll end up being more than a walking BBC trope, cause right now he ain't much more. His scenes with Lena are rather underwhelming, he's got no persona to really speak of, and is in the run for some hard reckoning I'd say (I can't imagine the tournament will end up well for him with his lack of preparations).
There are ways to make him interesting as a MC, but at the moment, he's a really "flat" character. I just hope he won't end up being this game's Tyrone.
Cause at the moment, Jeremy is boring AF.
I'm truly hoping he'll end up being more than a walking BBC trope, cause right now he ain't much more. His scenes with Lena are rather underwhelming, he's got no persona to really speak of, and is in the run for some hard reckoning I'd say (I can't imagine the tournament will end up well for him with his lack of preparations).
There are ways to make him interesting as a MC, but at the moment, he's a really "flat" character. I just hope he won't end up being this game's Tyrone.
Obviously. Changing the status from an npc to mc in a game makes a drastic change. Current Jeremy is not even in control of his actions, Ian and Lena are. By making Jeremy main character you could easily write his beginning like he's written in the game, but then maybe develop him into having options of being more considerate and focused on the grand scheme of things, give him more agency and choices. He could keep being a player or focus on one female. Become a successful ceo or a porn star. Or both. Or a crackhead.
Ashley Graham in GGGB starts as a shy book nerd in love with her plain boyfriend. Now, can you describe her character by the end of the game?
That is something I don't understand. Why people have problems with Jeremy being walking BBC trope? Do they also complain about Perry being an insecure nerd trope? Seymour being evil powerful man trope? Wade being lazy fucker with hot gf trope? Axel being dominant chad player trope? Robert being walking MWC (medium white cock) trope? Etc? Females are better in this game, because Eva likes to focus on them more, just like she did in GGGB. Holly is developing nicely for example. Alison is relatable in my opinion and I really like her as well, not just because of her body.
Still, those are npcs in a porn cartoon video game. I know Eva is ambitious and hard working, but she's just one writer with plenty of characters to care for and she's also drawing and leading this whole business. As far as side character depth go, I think she's doing fine job.
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Except we already have an NPC version of Ian (via Lena's POV), and he's nothing like a wannabe player that Jeremy is. Ian is first and foremost, a wannabe writer, who has a wide social network with his friends who he constantly interacts with, he has different ambitions (and struggles along the way) that define him. Sure, the heart-break might make him act more like a player, but he wouldn't be a jerk about it.
What do we gain with Jeremy as a protagonist? A typical protagonist of a porn game whose sole focus is to bang as many girls as possible, while also trying to win the MMA tournament. That's just not enough to make him compelling. Even if we get to the bottom of his insecurities, we still don't know his true aspirations, whether he likes anything beside sport, whether he has any good friends other than Ian and Billy, how does that friendship affect him (that has nothing to do with girl sharing). He's too cool for Perry and Wade, kinda ignores Emma (unless he wants to fuck her) and is kinda fixated on Ivy. If he was a player character, he'd probably get in contact with Axel, but then what? Where does his character go? What challenges does he face aside from Ivy cockblocking him from time to time? Does he face racism when trying to apply for jobs in a different field? So far, none of these questions have an answer. And without those answers, Jeremy wouldn't become a better character simply because you could play as him.