Just gonna spoiler this whole reply.There's more to it that just not having friends. Lena also just doesn't really have any agency. She has no goals. Her only objective is to make enough money to pay rent. She barely has any conflicts with anyone, and what little is there is solved by her either walking away from it or being turned on by it. There's no confrontation, complications, or consequences for her, and she never has to solve a problem. For example Ian can get out of being fired by blackmailing his boss with a skill check. Haven't really seen anything like that for Lena.
Another thing that bugs me is how binary Lena is. She's can be either a vanilla nice girl, or kind of a ho who is also a vanilla nice girl. She's just incredibly milquetoast. The only options to break away from that are the handful of times when you get to bully Stan. She needs more opportunities to actually have a personality because as it stands all she is is her looks. Even other characters only ever talk about how hot she is. It takes more than strumming a guitar every once in a while.
Yeah, and it's not only Lena who's struggling for money, the same goes for Ian. When you're writing a story about people in their mid twenties, it's not exactly unrealistic to make that a part of their life. Besides, Ian is also pressured to sleep with his boss in order to keep his job. For now, I guess the one significant difference is that Ian, as Stretta points out, can get out of it with a skill check.Just gonna spoiler this whole reply.
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Wow, I can date Lena for 150 euros?The 150€ tier is a bit of an experiment, but I've noticed I should add a few background NPCs in certain scenes and some people have asked me to draw them in-game in the past. So, if you're interested in that, message me and let me know!
Another thing that bugs me is how binary Lena is. She's can be either a vanilla nice girl, or kind of a ho who is also a vanilla nice girl.
Of course there is, I just hink, personally, that it's one element that stands out starkly between their narrative circumstances.There's more to it that just not having friends.
I don't agree entirely. I think Lena has plenty of agency, my problem is that in some cases each choice doesn't seem entirely balanced, so one route comes across as more valid.Lena also just doesn't really have any agency. She has no goals. Her only objective is to make enough money to pay rent. She barely has any conflicts with anyone, and what little is there is solved by her either walking away from it or being turned on by it. There's no confrontation, complications, or consequences for her, and she never has to solve a problem. For example Ian can get out of being fired by blackmailing his boss with a skill check. Haven't really seen anything like that for Lena.
I don't think she lacks a personality myself, but I do agree with some of what you're saying. I've spent some time on this here forum talking about how I feel a couple of her choices lack a middle-of-the-road option where it either comes down to a choice of either of two extremes.Another thing that bugs me is how binary Lena is. She's can be either a vanilla nice girl, or kind of a ho who is also a vanilla nice girl. She's just incredibly milquetoast. The only options to break away from that are the handful of times when you get to bully Stan. She needs more opportunities to actually have a personality because as it stands all she is is her looks. Even other characters only ever talk about how hot she is. It takes more than strumming a guitar every once in a while.
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That's actually good to know, I still have many things to explore, thanksContext matters. Lena has already almost lost her job in the restaurant because of the very similar Axel-Robert drama. If the 2 angry idiots don't care about her feelings and continue fighting in her workplace, potentially ruining her chances with another job, why should she apologize for anything? She hates self-serving pricks who only care about stroking their masculine ego. Ian doesn't have to fight in this situation at all, nobody is in danger. Perry is just being a twat, and so is Robert. If Ian solves the conflict peacefully, Lena doesn't say a bad word to him. If the fight broke out, you have several opportunities to tap out. If you try to do so at least once, then Lena realizes that Ian was only defending himself, and apologizes. If you don't, and only care about humuliating Robert and trying to look badass, then it's natural that Lena gets pissed in this scenario. Also, you know that you can evade Robert's attacks and not go into offensive yourself? That's true defense, and Lena acknowledges that.
And for 1500, you can fuck her!Wow, I can date Lena for 150 euros?
I do wonder if the fight might actually cost Lena her nude modelling gig. Thinking about it the fight can only even happen in the first place if Lena still has her job in the restaurant (since she slept with Robert), so when it comes to financially balancing Lena's route, this wouldn't be much different in terms of income to a Lena that doesn't have the the restaurant job.Context matters. Lena has already almost lost her job in the restaurant because of the very similar Axel-Robert drama. If the 2 angry idiots don't care about her feelings and continue fighting in her workplace, potentially ruining her chances with another job, why should she apologize for anything? She hates self-serving pricks who only care about stroking their masculine ego. Ian doesn't have to fight in this situation at all, nobody is in danger. Perry is just being a twat, and so is Robert. If Ian solves the conflict peacefully, Lena doesn't say a bad word to him. If the fight broke out, you have several opportunities to tap out. If you try to do so at least once, then Lena realizes that Ian was only defending himself, and apologizes. If you don't, and only care about humuliating Robert and trying to look badass, then it's natural that Lena gets pissed in this scenario. Also, you know that you can evade Robert's attacks and not go into offensive yourself? That's true defense, and Lena acknowledges that.
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WTF ? what you mean by final version ?when is final cumming out?
Final version of chapter 7 probably?WTF ? what you mean by final version ?
So there'll be no more new updates?
Seems like the type of "girl" she is is pretty malleable to what Ian and Lena wantHolly is not a threesome-type of girl. That would be so out of character, I cringe to even think about it.
Firraxa what do you say, Lena?
It sounds like you're talking about this in past tense. Did I miss an opportunity to buy recording equipment?she can buy recording equipment
I think it depends what the poly relationship entails. It would be a stretch to imagine Holly going from nearly virginal ignorance to bagging two quite desirable individuals of opposite sexes. She has not been in a 'proper' relationship until now. Going from being single to handling two people's egos, desires and needs in a relationship is a jump I don't think she is ready for. I definitely think Holly is bi but she has not had that realization yet. She seems more into Ian than Lena at the moment. Her blushing could also be read as not being comfortable receiving praise (esp. in something she may consider superfluous). The groundwork for a 'throuple girl' Holly is being laid and as of now she does not look comfortable enough to handle one person in a relationship, let alone two.Why isn't Holly a poly kind of girl? In previous chapters she's clearly into Ian while at the same time being kinda into Lena as well, commenting on how pretty she is and blushing furiously around her. If Ian and Lena both encourage her and pursue her in their own way, while also being in a relationship themselves, well it just kinda naturally follows, no?
I think this a fair assessment, it's at least a relationship dynamic the story would need proper time to really build up to.I think it depends what the poly relationship entails. It would be a stretch to imagine Holly going from nearly virginal ignorance to bagging two quite desirable individuals of opposite sexes. She has not been in a 'proper' relationship until now. Going from being single to handling two people's egos, desires and needs in a relationship is a jump I don't think she is ready for.
This however I feel very differently to. She's already talked openly about a girl she was in love with. Evakiss uses that vague language I really dislike "something weird between friendship and love" but it's the same language the character of Eva used in GGGB.I definitely think Holly is bi but she has not had that realization yet.
Her liking Ian is pretty evident!She seems more into Ian than Lena at the moment. Her blushing could also be read as not being comfortable receiving praise (esp. in something she may consider superfluous).