Not anywhere close in my game if he's with Lena at all. If so must not be easy.
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Not anywhere close in my game if he's with Lena at all. If so must not be easy.
Please adult games should NOT be difficult. Should be able to hook up with anyone regardless of who else you are. Best thing about GGGB - she could fuck anyone she (you) wanted.
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I think that's just fallout from a lot of people complaining that Lena was being hypocritical for getting angry at Ian for cheating on her, and then having the option to cheat on Ian. Rather than rewriting things, Eva Kiss decided the easiest way to sidestep that criticism is to simply make it so that Lena CANNOT cheat on Ian with Holly.
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If you want easy sex scenes, theres always regular porn.
This is one of the 5 or so most well-made porn VNs in existence, but... your loss.
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I'll take your word for it but I cant play a game where Im switching between MC
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I unlocked it by "doing drugs" during the scene in the apartment between Perry and Emma. Then visiting Perry's room, after the meta fourth wall, it was the scene that happened. I've only done one playthrough of it though. So not 100%
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That's right, there is one additional combination. In these specific discussions we've been having we are working under the assumption that ian_lena_dating is true, so that is moot, but you CAN avoid ian_holly_dating with the correct choices which will allow either LenaxHolly or LenaxHollyxIvy.
This example though, as far as I interpret it, harkens back to the thing that Eva set out to correct in the first place. You have Lena scolding Ian and breaking up with him, then turning around and doing exactly what she just scolded Ian for. I have not played that exact scenario out myself, but when doing that does Lena give any context as to why she is fine going through with Holly even though she just bashed Ian for it?
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fix your shit brother even when game crashes it still acts up doesnt let me copy the errors and shit tried to click quit and says theres no quiting
had to use ctrl alt delete and end task ffs
had to use ctrl alt delete and end task ffs
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Nah. The hypocrisy itself isn't even what bugged some of us. It was justifying Lena's strong reaction (and potential hypocrisy) to Ian/Holly in the writing somehow, which was completely missed/skipped over and felt glaring to us that have come to expect consistent quality from the main paths. Eva just changed this part as well because, as a few did criticize, Lena's reaction to Ian/Holly was strongly based on her care for and protectiveness of Holly. With that kind of motivation, it wouldn't make sense for Lena to put Holly in such an awkward position if she truly did care for her, as Lena had already proven her protectiveness and care. I think that hypocritical turn could've worked if justified in the writing as well, just by changing or adding some text in a few paths, but Eva chose to just take this path of locking Lena/Holly out instead in this situation.
Not a change most of us were expecting. But I think it was a way of avoiding more complicated plot situations that she would have to write content for. Could it have been done more smoothly? Yes. Definitely. Was hoping that smoothing out would've happened in the final, but it's probably a little bump we'll have to live with unless there's a post-final re-do.
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I think you've answered your own question. No for-sures till the content's out, but you know what you need to do if there's potential Ed content. (He's going to find out she's a nude model either way). I don't think the first choice has as much bearing, but with all choices afterwards it's obvious which way to go.
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I don't think we've necessarily seen the last of this scene, Eva does rewrite earlier chapter content on occasion, so maybe this'll get that treatment once Eva knows more specifically where she wants the hypothetical Ian/Lena/Holly and Lena/Ivy/Holly to go.
Well, more of an off-screen change. Landlord just fixed the air conditioner.
I see she got a bonus. Hoping for some bigger bank deposits in chapter 9.
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I think if anything is clear from all these discussions, it's that a decent chunk of the community still has some gripes with the way these scenes are handled currently, so I think it's likely that this section of the game will get another pass by Eva at some point in time. We've talked this point to death over the last week, so there isn't really anything else to do but wait and see where things go in the future.
In the mean time people should just enjoy playing chapter 8 since it's a great update overall!
I think people posting that the drug scene is bugged will happen even well past the game being finished
Ok. We're laughing. But this confusion happens so frequently for an inside-joke. People playing this on Steam who never ran into the expected errors in Alpha and Beta won't expect this and might just turn the game off in frustration. Eva might need to make it a little more obvious (I know, it's obvious to us) once the full game is otherwise complete before a Steam release. For the amount of people not getting the puzzle here, I can imagine a lot more in negative Steam review comments. "Fix teh shit! Why u no tests?!? Pour game"
Imagined change would be Ian showing up immediately in front of the screen when the error first pops and making some sort of "wft?" comment on it, so users not following development know it's part of the game.
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Yeah. As some pointed out, I imagine there's gonna be quite a bit of retconning the full product before the entire game is released, especially with her less-structured creation process. We'll have to anticipate delay in some chapter releases as Eva does this.