VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[dundun]

Haha it was really close but thanks But honestly it's interesting because I don't look at any Variables so this could mean that the Firework Scene is more important than it seems at first and maybe also triggers Ian's inner Thoughts after the Trip where he kind of realized that there is more between him and Alison.

Ah, I was only half remembering it. It is 2 steps. First you have to embrace her so back in the hotel you then can tell her that you 'love it too', 'it' referring to being together with her. That sets the variable ian_alison_love which breaks the Ian/Lena relationship.
So yes, it is definitely important

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

Yes, I've been thinking about this as well. While subduing Lena's will might be a turn-on for him on its own, I don't think he showed all of his cards yet. I very much suspect he intends to use Lena to safeguard his future business deals as well. It was already hinted at when he worked with Agnes and how fast he switched faces from being an attentive authority figure (that a type of Lena was enjoying) to a desperate manipulator who wants to please Agnes and their business arrangement showing no regard for Lena's comfort as his model whatsoever. Perhaps knowing that she works in the cafe he intends to acquire, performs with a pesky activist who tries to undermine his goals and knowing that very few men would resist her charms (thus, the constant theme of their shoots being about her role as a seductress and an object of men's desire) made him realize her potential as his negotiations tactics first and foremost, both for business deals and damage control (get Emma out of the picture). He can't outright tell her that and offer becoming his dark Padawan, otherwise she'll realize all this power that she has and he won't be able to control her. That's why I think he put that clause about proactivity and didn't set any limits to sexual contact in his contract aside from Lena's consent. Doing an underhanded "photo shoot" while his competitors fuck Lena will give him an ultimate edge with so much compromising evidence against them and none of his involvement (Lena wouldn't want to out herself like this and become a complicit in his illegal actions).

P.S. it's entirely my speculation based on the facts presented in this game. If things play out exactly the same way, then it will be pure coincidence and a huge success of my detective work.

Ok, I really like the idea of Lena becoming Seymour's sexy spy, seducing and then blackmailing business partners and sabotaging businesses to fail so he can buy them.

But, sorry there is always a but, it doesn't really make much sense. For the cafe to fail all Lena has to do is stop helping them. But either they are already failing because Lena didn't help them or Lena really cares about the van Dykes. This is not Star Wars where decent people become youngling murdering psychopaths in a blink of an eye. And to sabotage them she wouldn't have to do some sexy evil stuff, all she had to do is stop helping them. Which is not very exciting.

Spying on Emma would make sense in a way but there is no need for sexy stuff, all Lena would have to do is to pretend to be her friend. Again, not very interesting. Also I don't get the feeling Seymour is that concerned about Emma.

Seymour whoring out Lena to a business partner can easily happen but the problem with that is that you need new characters for that. So this would be more a one off thing, like with Ryan in GGGB.

I also don't get that Seymour is desperate to please Agnes, he seems quite eager himself. And the clause about him not being allowed to touch Lena except she asks for it, well, maybe he just wants to make her beg

So, while I think you are mostly right in that these things will happen, I don't expect it to be that hot and exciting. My theory for Seymour is that he is trying to break in Lena, to make her willingly accept to be his playting/whore/slave. Axel knows (and is likely helping) and that is why he was so calm to Lena after they posed together and why he isn't obsessed with Lena any more.

Talking about detective work, you have any idea when we will find out what is the whole ruckus about Stan?

I've also been suspecting that Seymour has some additional cards up his sleeve, and somehow will use Lena's sexuality in his business. But as dundun implies, he's powerful enough to get by without setting up honeytraps for his opponents—or needing Lena's help in other ways. At least with the current cast, and I can't see Eva adding a bunch of new characters for that sole intention.

The one (kind of weird) exception is the Mayor. His bio states that he's affiliated with a left-leaning party and has been struggling to implement his politics due to the economic situation. Seymour definitely won't be supporting a left-leaning party, so the two of them are likely to be competing in some way already. At the same time the economic problems could open up a mutually beneficial (and shady) partnership between them. Seymour helps the Mayor with money (improving his chances of being reelected), the Mayor offers Seymour hidden political infuence in return. And to sweeten the deal, Seymour adds a night with his young, seductive business partner.

We also have that one scene at Ian and Perry's place, where the Mayor stops by to fix something in the apartment (only available if Lena's involved with Ian). The only purpose of that scene I can think of, is to have Lena, only wearing Ian's shirt for the occasion, meet the Mayor again. Which in turn would indicate that they will meet again and somehow be involved with each other later in the story.

Though if Seymour's storyline culminates in Lena seducing one of the least sexual characters in the whole game, it would be an understatement to call it anticlimactic. So who knows.

Another thing regarding Seymour I'm wondering about after the latest update, is to what extent Ian will have the choice to support him or not. As of now he's only unknowingly and indirectly involved through Seymour's threaths to Lena. It would be cool if Ian himself could make a conscious choice about his involvement with Seymour, and if that choice could lead to Ian and Lena standing on different sides. One supporting Seymour, the other one trying to bring him down.

 

[dundun]

I've also been suspecting that Seymour has some additional cards up his sleeve, and somehow will use Lena's sexuality in his business. But as dundun implies, he's powerful enough to get by without setting up honeytraps for his opponents—or needing Lena's help in other ways. At least with the current cast, and I can't see Eva adding a bunch of new characters for that sole intention.

The one (kind of weird) exception is the Mayor. His bio states that he's affiliated with a left-leaning party and has been struggling to implement his politics due to the economic situation. Seymour definitely won't be supporting a left-leaning party, so the two of them are likely to be competing in some way already. At the same time the economic problems could open up a mutually beneficial (and shady) partnership between them. Seymour helps the Mayor with money (improving his chances of being reelected), the Mayor offers Seymour hidden political infuence in return. And to sweeten the deal, Seymour adds a night with his young, seductive business partner.

We also have that one scene at Ian and Perry's place, where the Mayor stops by to fix something in the apartment (only available if Lena's involved with Ian). The only purpose of that scene I can think of, is to have Lena, only wearing Ian's shirt for the occasion, meet the Mayor again. Which in turn would indicate that they will meet again and somehow be involved with each other later in the story.

Though if Seymour's storyline culminates in Lena seducing one of the least sexual characters in the whole game, it would be an understatement to call it anticlimactic. So who knows.

Another thing regarding Seymour I'm wondering about after the latest update, is to what extent Ian will have the choice to support him or not. As of now he's only unknowingly and indirectly involved through Seymour's threaths to Lena. It would be cool if Ian himself could make a conscious choice about his involvement with Seymour, and if that choice could lead to Ian and Lena standing on different sides. One supporting Seymour, the other one trying to bring him down.

Yes, that is right! The mayor would be a valuable target and he is connected to the cast (Perry and Ian). It is suspicious that Lena meets him at the restaurant and then can meet him again barely clothed. He obviously was going to play some role in the game and I was wondering what that might be. Using Lena to blackmail/bribe him would make sense for Seymour and it wouldn't be too far out of Lena's comfort zone. And he is not exactly ugly.
Ian is, for now, just a hook Seymour has into Lena, he already threatened to drop Ian's book. Ian might very well become Seymour's creature, Seymour can control both his job and his book deals. But Seymour isn't interested into him, he wants Lena.

 

[Mesmerizet]

I can't believe one thing though.

9 versions and no Stan scene? Lol.
Not like I want it. My top picks are usually Cindy x anyone and Jeremy x Lena probably

 

[Shadowndev99]

I can't believe one thing though.

9 versions and no Stan scene? Lol.
Not like I want it. My top picks are usually Cindy x anyone and Jeremy x Lena probably

I think Stan and other will be dlc after the game finished if they didn't get good story in the next updates

 

[clayjar]

i dont understand how people like Stan more than Perry. Perry is hilarious

 

[Shadowndev99]

i dont understand how people like Stan more than Perry. Perry is hilarious

To me I like to see everything and how things will go in different routes

 

[BlandChili]

i dont understand how people like Stan more than Perry. Perry is hilarious

For me it's more that I don't find Stan as insufferable, he's rather harmless when he isn't being a creep.

Perry lies around all the time and moans whenever he has to make the least effort and complains about everything. In ch. 9 I came to like him a bit more, so I am hoping we've come into the part of the story where he becomes a better person.

 

[marspig]

In fact, I have never figured out whether Perry and Wade are really friends of Ian.

You (Ian) can't feel their friendship and support at all. You are just having fun together.
It can only be regarded as a group of selfish acquaintances.

Even if you (Ian) flatter them and promote friendship, they still treat you according to their own personality.
It doesn't make any sense, it's not worth it~

Even if your relationship with them is the worst, it won't have any impact on the plot, so what's the point?

I mean~
If the friendship is not equal, your efforts will not be rewarded.
They are all selfish, so why does Ian need to care and flatter them? It seems meaningless.

 

[kubkma]

Firstly i got only error "JD_money_up". Then I closed the game and now i cant even launch it. I tried to reinstall but it cant help. Anyone can help?

Sat Nov 6 07:05:26 2021
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.4.1439


Bootstrap to the start of init.init took 0.08s
Early init took 0.01s
Loader init took 0.02s
Loading error handling took 0.04s
Loading script took 6.29s

 

[BloodyMares]

In fact, I have never figured out whether Perry and Wade are really friends of Ian.

You (Ian) can't feel their friendship and support at all. You are just having fun together.
It can only be regarded as a group of selfish acquaintances.

Even if you (Ian) flatter them and promote friendship, they still treat you according to their own personality.
It doesn't make any sense, it's not worth it~

Even if your relationship with them is the worst, it won't have any impact on the plot, so what's the point?

I mean~
If the friendship is not equal, your efforts will not be rewarded.
They are all selfish, so why does Ian need to care and flatter them? It seems meaningless.

You know, I think them being a group of selfish individuals that have fun together is the most realistic part about their dynamics. You are right that they aren't true friends or best friends, just buddies at best, but you know, compared to the sugar-coated friendships often portrayed in films or TV-shows, that's often the case IRL. You are extremely lucky if you have at least one person who'd fit the criteria you put into real friendship. Personally, I relate to Ian's group of buddies very much. I was growing up disappointed that I never managed to have any real close friends like I saw in movies, and this somewhat toxic friendship was the best thing I had. It's not ideal, but it's better than being alone. Because if things become shitty, you can at least rely on them to distract you from your problems.

 

[dqs]

You know, I think them being a group of selfish individuals that have fun together is the most realistic part about their dynamics. You are right that they aren't true friends or best friends, just buddies at best, but you know, compared to the sugar-coated friendships often portrayed in films or TV-shows, that's often the case IRL. You are extremely lucky if you have at least one person who'd fit the criteria you put into real friendship. Personally, I relate to Ian's group of buddies very much. I was growing up disappointed that I never managed to have any real close friends like I saw in movies, and this somewhat toxic friendship was the best thing I had. It's not ideal, but it's better than being alone. Because if things become shitty, you can at least rely on them to distract you from your problems.

could not agree more. The friendships started in highschool and their common ground is now long gone.

 

[BloodyMares]

could not agree more. The friendships started in highschool and their common ground is now long gone.

Exactly. They're long past their prime. Well, maybe not Ian and Jeremy, but Perry and Wade definitely are. Wade is a has-been charmer and "cool guy" that lost all of his passions since dating Cindy. Perry is an artistic guy who used to enjoy singing for their band and still misses that feeling of brotherhood that they shared in the past. That's why he's always trying to initiate hangouts or some events for the group, not willing to let everyone become separated for good. As annoying as he can be, he's really the glue holding everyone together.

Seriously, if it wasn't for Perry, Wade would've cut all ties with them long ago, Emma would do her thing, too. It would only be Ian, Alison and Jeremy, and considering how one is always interested in intimacy and another is a horndog with only sex on his mind, it wouldn't really be that wholesome friendship either, just an awkward triangle. And most importantly, if it wasn't for Perry, Ian would never get to know Lena as something more than a friendly waitress (the very first life drawing event that Perry almost had to drag Ian's ass to).

 

[pantypriv]

And most importantly, if it wasn't for Perry, Ian would never get to know Lena as something more than a friendly waitress (the very first life drawing event that Perry almost had to drag Ian's ass to).

Your perspective on Perry is interesting, and you make some very good points, but can't really agree with this; seeing as it seems like everyone in this town bump into each other some way or the other aaaand I don't think Ian would have had his last latte at the cafe...
Though the drawing setting was quite different from the cafe setting, so perhaps it would have taken longer time for Ian to act. But he's not alone in this, Lena noticed him as well.

 

[Clone002]

As we are talking about Perry, last chapter we had the opportunity to get him to work at the caffé... Is it a way to open a future Lena/Perry path? Story-wise, this choice is only to get them closer, imo.

 

[St0rm1]

As we are talking about Perry, last chapter we had the opportunity to get him to work at the caffé... Is it a way to open a future Lena/Perry path? Story-wise, this choice is only to get them closer, imo.

I thought it's to help out while Lena is away?

 

[mistkae]

Any eta on the walkthrough update? Or is that only after .9 final release?

 

[JoJoPool]

Oh shit is that NTR tag new or am I tripping? If it's new this is gonna get interesting lol

it's new (added by EVA herself) I think it's related to the open relationship Ian can suggest to Lena.

 

[Scoobax]

Hi, is possible to get a threesome between alison ian and jeremy? and if so, how? Thanks

 

[BloodyMares]

Hi, is possible to get a threesome between alison ian and jeremy? and if so, how? Thanks

Not yet.