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ffive

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Anyone know what the variable is for the Axel pushing Ian scene variations? I’ve seen 3 so far, Axel pushes Ian over, Axel pushes Ian lightly backwards, and Ian deflects Axel’s hand away and doesn’t get pushed.
There's 3 variants for Ian:
Python:
                if jiujitsu > 3 or kickboxing > 4:
(..)
                    "He tried to push Ian away forcefully, but Ian deflected his hand, avoiding being shoved backward."
(..)
                else:
                    if ian_athletics > 4:
(..)          
                        "He pushed Ian away forcefully with just one hand. He staggered backward."
                    else:
(..)
                        "He pushed Ian away with just one hand, so forcefully that he sent him tumbling to the ground."
So, with good martial arts skill (if Ian put extra effort in gym, or did at least decent in the sparring or visited the gym when given opportunity in ch.10) he can avoid the hit, otherwise it hinges on having athletic skill at 5+
 

ffive

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Ivy drugged Holly's drink with ecstasy?
No. People are just seeing epileptic trees.

Holly hooks up with the guy if she gets close/comfortable enough with him during the party. This can happen in three ways:

* if she was already introduced to Mark and didn't have sex with Lena
* if she was already introduced to Mark and Lena explicitly encourages her (Push Holly option in conversation)
* if she was already introduced to Mark and her holly_change variable is at 5 (Let Holly decide option in conversation)
 

JoJoPool

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What's the problem? Did Lena swap the outfit to her top and shorts after you bought the Lust outfit? Or did Lust outfit show as Owned before you even bought it? I'm confused.
I have this bug as well, the lust outfit is owned automatically.... I don't think i even have enough points to unlock it and yet it's bought before i even go to the store.
 

knb-advantage

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I've got so far these girls for Ian: Lena, Alison, Cindy and Minerva. Is it possible to also add Cherry and Emma to this list? I know that Holly route conflicts with Alison route, but does the same happen with the 2 girls above? Will this somehow damage Lena relationship? I wanna keep her as the main LI, I mean open relationship, but also have scenes with other girls.
 
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ffive

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How do we get this answer after axel photoshoot and does it changes anything for now ?
It requires Lena's relationship with Axel to be at 4+ (i.e. friendly, not neutral or negative)

It makes Lena accept Axel's offer to get together for a coffee some day, instead of leaving it in the air* So it might have some (likely minor) impact down the road.

*) there's what might be seen as bug in there -- Lena hesitates and doesn't actually answer to Axel's offer, but later when questioned by Ivy she tells her she said yes to it in this case.
 
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Douve

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It requires Lena's relationship with Axel to be at 4+ (i.e. friendly, not neutral or negative)

It makes Lena accept Axel's offer to for getting together for a coffee some day, instead of leaving it in the air* So it might have some (likely minor) impact down the road.

*) there's what might be seen as bug in there -- Lena hesitates and doesn't actually answer to Axel's offer, but later when questioned by Ivy she tells her she said yes to it in this case.
But how ? I feel like I did everything inhis way and I still can't :/ Is there one point that is a bit tricky ?
 

ffive

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Will this somehow damage Lena relationship? I wanna keep her as the main LI, I mean open relationship, but also have scenes with other girls.
Open relationship in this game means potentially having some threesomes with extra party, not sleeping around behind partner's back. So yes, i'd guess it's absolutely going to impact Lena/Ian relationship eventually if you keep doing it.

If you want scenes with other girls don't get into relationship with Lena, simple.
 

ffive

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But how ? I feel like I did everything inhis way and I still can't :/ Is there one point that is a bit tricky ?
Looking in the code it appears you're right and it's not actually possible in the game's current state. I'd guess this is either a mistake in the conditional (should be > 2 instead of > 3) or some additional ways to improve relationship with Axel will be added before full release.
 
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GifMeMore1987

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I've got so far these girls for Ian: Lena, Alison, Cindy and Minerva. Is it possible to also add Cherry and Emma to this list? I know that Holly route conflicts with Alison route, but does the same happen with the 2 girls above? Will this somehow damage Lena relationship? I wanna keep her as the main LI, I mean open relationship, but also have scenes with other girls.
Shagging Emma shouldn't be a problem, Cherry route closes if you don't start it at the first chance. Later in game you have to choose between her and Alison. Holly and Lena generally don't work together, neither do Holly and Cindy IIRC. So the maximum amount of women Ian can bang in one playthrough (that's what you're asking, right?) is six (Lena, Cherry, Alison, Emma, Minerva, Cindy) and the possibility of Ivy, Jessica, Louise and Gillian in future updates.
 

bloodyasura

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Just wait for few updates, and you will see jeremy breaking that rules soon. Particularly with Lena. No matter if it is lena who will thrive for jeremy, Jeremy co operating it would be ultimate betrayal for Ian and also his own self's broken principle.
As far as I remember, if Lena has sex with Jeremy before Ian asks her to meet, she refuses him, just because of sex with his friend. And if, uh, she's slutty enough the moment Ian asks her out, you sort of start an experimental relationship that just involves sex outside of a relationship. So, something that you say cannot come true. And if you have a normal relationship, she will not sleep with Jeremy, you will not be given such a choice, or rather he will be gray.
In fact, it is YOU who choose what boundaries Jeremy can overcome. YOU are the builder of this world and it is YOU that is the very thread, it may seem to you that you are playing for Jan or Lena, and this is partly true, but YOU are the thread, the very thread of fate. In our reality, you just sit at the computer and poke at the options, but in the reality of the game, YOU destroy lives, create pairs, YOU are the inevitability itself, YOU are fate. And it is up to you to decide how the lives of these puppets will develop.)))
 

ffive

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And it is up to you to decide how the lives of these puppets will develop
Pretty much. This game is what i'd call "relationship sandbox" rather than typical romance/porn VN, in the sense it plays up the alley for people whose idea of entertainment is "NOW KISS" meme.

and i love it
 

ffive

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Holly and Lena generally don't work together, neither do Holly and Cindy IIRC.
Holly and Lena might potentially happen down the road, imo -- if you have Lena fantasize about Holy while she's dating Ian, she explicitly dreams of both of them pleasuring her, there's some offhand thought(s) from Lena afterwards Holly probably wouldn't object to such arrangement, and in ch.10 we learn that Ian's fantasy is a threesome with two girls, which might be seen as incentive for Lena to pursue this venue further, even though up to this point she's holding herself back.

and the possibility of Ivy, Jessica, Louise and Gillian in future updates.
There's also Natalie from GGGB, and we already know she's open to having some fun in various arrangements.
 
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bloodyasura

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Lena cheating on Ian with Jeremy was always going to happen. It was inevitable, so it makes sense we finally got that option. If anything, what doesn't make sense is Lena refusing a relationship if she already fucked Jeremy since that goes nowhere and is pointless. She had sex with Jeremy before Ian and her were official so why not? It would actually make more interesting story if she accepts relationship and then tries to avoid Jeremy and inevitable failing to do it.



Like I said, the game is far less complex than what I expected it to be.
If she's having sex with Jeremy in Louise's room, it's like she's turning down a relationship with Ian when he proposes. The maximum that she can do is a blowjob, after a blowjob she does not refuse, but it seems like even after just a blowjob, you can choose only an experimental relationship. Although I'm not sure, I haven't revisited this thread yet.
 

mannice431

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So for the guys digging through the code, is there anything in regards to pregnancy?

I ask this because, while you can cum inside some of the girls already, it's Alison who seems to have a bit of an 'impregnation' kink (and also the choice of condom or no condom), seems odd to draw so much attention to it without it paying off eventually :unsure:

Maybe it'll be percentage based, the more you go without condoms the likelier it is for her to get pregnant, but that's probably a long way off.
 
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