I think this is sort of universal interpretation for Eva's games -- it's similar in Good Girl Gone Bad, where "open relationship" was effectively the MC and her partner having sex with some third party together, and sleeping with someone behind the partner's back would activate cheating route(s).
Just chiming in that those things are usually a matter of degrees and compartmentalization. What you are describing is essentially the worst case scenario of taking it to the max (refering to someone as worthless in a general sense) with the person on the giving end having a sadistic streak and imposing it on the person on the receiving end who is not really into it but isn't putting a stop to their partner (could be an introvert person with low self-esteem but that doesn't really have that kind of masochistic kink).
To be fair, that's kinda how it works with Eric at the start of GGGB, but the "open relationship" at the end of the game would allow the MC to sleep with other people without it being considered cheating (although I think the wording for it there was a "liberal relationship"? Maybe it is just a Eva Kiss wording kink or something), just a shame that arrangement required a bimbo Ashley and it was portrayed essentially as "MC is just too much of a sex demon to be with 1 person even if she really loves them now and so she seduces and manipulates their partner into agreeing to it" rather than a mutual thing.
I think you're underestimating the extent of effect the "lighter approach" can have over long term. The worthlessness i mentioned wasn't specifically what the person would be told, it's just how it can eventually start to build up and feel for the recipient, after repeatedly hearing relatively minor remarks like you describe. It also doesn't require any sort of sadistic streak from the partner. It's not unlike propaganda works, through repetition that over time molds both the recipient and the provider who can wind up buying their own shit.
To be fair this isn't far off from how people wind up experimenting with different sexual kinks, because they grow bored of doing the same thing and with the same partner all the time.
Which is why people that practice those kinks have things like aftercare and rest periods, to counteract the "propaganda" effect and give reassurance that it was done as part of a play. If it was nothing but incessant demeaning remarks and humiliating actions and then "wham bam see ya later" then I would agree with you that it would be hard to fathom a healthy relationship between two healthy individuals with such a dynamic.
Yeah, but it isn't like everyone wants to explore every kink to their logical extreme. Boredom is not inevitable and even then people can still draw lines of up to which point they actually enjoy a kink. People are more likely to skirt around this line here and there when it comes to porn because of how low commital and inexpensive/inoffensive it is, but it is not like it is ad infinitum. And being honest in well-written or otherwise good adult games, it kinda sucks when it feels like some fetishes are taken too far, even in detriment of the story, just because of the expectation that the porn always needs to be escalated further and further to keep the story going.
The pace is similar to what it used to be typically, it's just the last couple of chapters were outliers in this regard.
There's no Android version officially released. Use JoiPlay. Works for me.
TLDR: We're definitely speaking past each other.
Zero fun for anyone, tbh. I cringed in the last third of that route and quickly rerouted to the more wholesome, family-friendly experience of "Ashley Bangs Her Mom & Her Stepdad For A Boob-Job." Monacle.gif.
December 04, 2022 - Chapter 10 Alpha
So seems to be a similar pace to the last couple of chapters. An update every 6 months.The weekly update said that she started to be lazer focused on the script after the prologue was published and that she started writing after the alpha, whether she is referring to the alpha of chapter 10 or the alpha of the prologue is not clear. In the announcement for the prologue Eva Kiss said that she had been working on the structure of chapter 11 when she had decided to make the prologue.December 04, 2022 - Chapter 10 Alpha
December 09, 2022 - Chapter 10 Beta
December 22, 2022 - Chapter 10 Final
February 11, 2023 - Chapter 11 Prologue (Alpha)
February 14, 2023 - Chapter 11 Prologue (Beta)
February 21, 2023 - Chapter 11 Prologue (Final)
Hmm it's been 3 months since the Chapter 10 Alpha, so I guess another 3 months for the remaining 50%
I honestly don't mind more frequent updates similar to the prologue. I quite enjoyed the normal story progression without that many scenes.
If 65% of the script and 50% of the art are already ready, then I hope we won’t wait so long for the release.
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Weekly Status Report Chapter 11 (1)
With theYou must be registered to see the linksreleased, I just realized I haven't posted a proper status report on Chapter 11 yet. I had been keeping the prologue stuff under wraps since I wanted it to be some kind of surprise, and after finishing the release cycle, I've been laser focused on the script for Chapter 11.
These past two weeks I've been working mostly on the writing, and I feel I'm making good progress. I began writing the script the same day the Alpha was published, and in this time I've completed what I think is about 65-70% of it. The art is about 50% done.
I've finally found a couple of artists I can delegate some illustrations too, which has enabled me to focus on the writing during these weeks. I still draw all of the heads and faces, and I want to keep drawing the most important scenes myself, but I'll try delegating as much as I can, as long as the final result is up to my standards.
I've also been working on enhancing the music department (and a bit of the audio), and I'm trying something pretty cool that I still don't know if will work, but if it does I'll let you know more.
Other than that, I'll keep focusing on writing and try to finish Ian's part as fast as I can, and then continue with Lena's and the remaining art stuff. I'll keep you posted!
Not necessarily -- given the context i think "I began writing the script the same day the Alpha was published" might refer to the Alpha of the Ch.11 prologue, not Ch.10. Since the latter would mean working on script for both the prologue and ch.11 proper simultaneously. So it's possible the work started aroung Feb.11, with most of the work done in the last two weeks. That'd mean possibility of writing for Ch.11 getting done in ~another two weeks, and a (cautious) guesstimate of about a month for the remaining art. Overall, it could mean something like early April for the Alpha release. We'll see.Hmm it's been 3 months since the Chapter 10 Alpha, so I guess another 3 months for the remaining 50%
The Chapter 11 Prologue took 2 months to get published (Assuming Chapter 10 Alpha -> Chapter 11 Prologue Alpha). So are you suggesting that rest of the Chapter 11 update will be the same size as the prologue, which is already quite small?
I doubt it, because given the current size of the episodes, how can you write most of the script in 3 weeks and prepare half of the art? This is a huge job that takes two to three months. I believe that Eva started working on part 11 with the release of part 10, in the process she changed some things to fit further with the prologue of part 11. This is my guess.
