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Samuel Hidayat

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There will probably be a few new opportunities for both of them to cheat. Ian still has girls like Emma and Cherry that he could be fucking on the side and if Lena still has the "bbc" flag active then she might try something with Jeremy in a coming update. Curious to see what the consequences are.
If you're talking about Ian and Lena cheating on each other, Cherry and Jeremy won't be available. Ian can't go far with Cherry while Lena has to choose between Ian or Jeremy.
 
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dontcarewhateverno

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I personally am not interested in this story line at all, but do absolutely take issue with blanket statements like, "no one cares about stan" because quite obviously some people do care. Not the least of which being the developer of the game, who spent time rewriting him to better fit her vision. While some people may not be happy with the delay that caused, there are demonstrably others who are happy about it.

PSA: Don't say, "No one cares about X" when what you mean to say is, "I don't care about X". These are different things.
Agree. A big part of Eva's success/draw in her games is the plethora of paths that hit so many varying preferences. Though, fair enough, it's also a reason for the challenging development time, her following and resources would likely be a smaller fraction of what they are without that. Could all/most of those preferences have been hit in a more streamlined way with better planning from the beginning & more condensed archetypes? Sure. But a variety of fans all followed for their own reasons too and shouldn't be so easily ignored.

The dismissal of other preferences shown here often means "it wouldn't affect me, so she should just ditch/ignore that path because I don't like it." I don't care about Stan either, other than for some comic relief with old Stan, but he was one of the highest rated male characters in one of those polls a while back & Eva seems to think he was important enough to keep/rehash.
 
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SerHawkes

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to think he was important enough to keep/rehash
And what was rehashed? Other than the slight add-on of his interest in photography? Not a damn thing. Unless you want to add the laughable as fuck confession and claim 'I'd be better than Ian' if Lena is shacked up with Ian. But then again, polls can be one sided and should be taken with a grain of salt. The "reason" she "reworked" him was because she was, according to her, wasn't a fan of how Stan was written at the time. ... ... ... AND who exactly is the writer for him Eva? Oh, right... you.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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And what was rehashed? Other than the slight add-on of his interest in photography? Not a damn thing. Unless you want to add the laughable as fuck confession and claim 'I'd be better than Ian' if Lena is shacked up with Ian. But then again, polls can be one sided and should be taken with a grain of salt. The "reason" she "reworked" him was because she was, according to her, wasn't a fan of how Stan was written at the time. ... ... ... AND who exactly is the writer for him Eva? Oh, right... you.
You're latching onto one little part of my post though when I'm talking about dismissing a path as a whole. Defending a rehash wasn't really a big part of my comment. The Stan rework, sure, was clearly much more about Eva's personal satisfaction as a creator. But a lot of other items got reworked beyond Stan, several of which I personally liked (several of which I didn't). I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took.
 

SerHawkes

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You're latching onto one little part of my post though when I'm talking about dismissing a path as a whole. Defending a rehash wasn't really a big part of my comment. The Stan rework, sure, was clearly much more about Eva's personal satisfaction as a creator. But a lot of other items got reworked beyond Stan, several of which I personally liked (several of which I didn't). I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took.
Sure, somethings being changed were nice (Jeremy now only getting a brief handy if he isn't with Louise anymore), but at the same time some changes don't make sense at all and should be questioned. Eva has done reworks without any sort of feedback to speak of or even asked for peoples thoughts on the matter, other than her inner circle most likely. Like Wade for example. Out of the blue Wade was reworked to having a job yet not being active in his relationship to now being jobless and not being active in his relationship and likely more at risk of Cinders breaking up with him. Did we really need that change? Not really, as the possible break up could very well have happened naturally with Wade having a job at the time with either them breaking up naturally or Ian and Cinders cheating. Much like the prologue as well, which was entirely fine to begin with, but did we get any mention or post saying she was going to change the prologue? No, we didn't.

My point being, feedback can be a good thing and can help sometimes with developers with certain things or quirks with characters. And sure, this is Eva's game and she can do whatever she wants. Yet to do reworks out the blue without any explaination other than 'I wanted to change X' without user feedback until it's pushed out can get you a lot of flak and issues from fans. Eva lacks in transparity at times, and it can back fire at times. While else would see many people here raise their hands and press the issue?
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Sure, somethings being changed were nice (Jeremy now only getting a brief handy if he isn't with Louise anymore), but at the same time some changes don't make sense at all and should be questioned. Eva has done reworks without any sort of feedback to speak of or even asked for peoples thoughts on the matter, other than her inner circle most likely. Like Wade for example. Out of the blue Wade was reworked to having a job yet not being active in his relationship to now being jobless and not being active in his relationship and likely more at risk of Cinders breaking up with him. Did we really need that change? Not really, as the possible break up could very well have happened naturally with Wade having a job at the time with either them breaking up naturally or Ian and Cinders cheating. Much like the prologue as well, which was entirely fine to begin with, but did we get any mention or post saying she was going to change the prologue? No, we didn't.

My point being, feedback can be a good thing and can help sometimes with developers with certain things or quirks with characters. And sure, this is Eva's game and she can do whatever she wants. Yet to do reworks out the blue without any explaination other than 'I wanted to change X' without user feedback until it's pushed out can get you a lot of flak and issues from fans. Eva lacks in transparity at times, and it can back fire at times. While else would see many people here raise their hands and press the issue?
I think you may be counterpointing the wrong person on this, unless the reply was just a way to get that opinion out. "I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took." It's a forum. We're meant to share opinions. 100%. Feedback is important. You have a right to your concerns too and to voice them. This isn't (or shouldn't be) an "agree with Eva 100% all the time or you're out" fascist board. :D My only beef was where people routinely dismiss others' concerns or preferred paths to an excessive degree, so I'm actually with you on that one.
 
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Solomon Grundy

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Don't quite understand the controversy surrounding Stan. Stan isn't a bad character. He's just unattractive, overweight, and hides in a dark room masturbating. I imagine most guys on this forum are like that...
Well then you clearly have not read their posts. All the Stan haters are 6'4" tall, built of solid muscle, have 12" dicks, and spend their free time making paper mache with supermodels using $100 bills and semen. I mean, none of them would be exaggerating... right?
 

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I mean, masturbation alone is known to negatively affect eyesight, don't need to add to that with the poor lighting. :whistle::coffee:
I had to look this one up. Turns out it's debunked. Over doing it might cause pain on the genitals, or give you some form of joint pain on the wrist, but your eyes will be fine.:ROFLMAO:
 
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