VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[mangosok]

Developer is spanish so presumable they draw upon what they experienced in their culture.

I didn't know, thanks.

 

[atrebor68]

it's a destiny for every female MC, but yea, game encourage you all the time to do that

True. I’ m trying a new route from beginning enveloping a story with Ian and a (enough) good Lena. At the first error she turn into a slut.

 

[Mesmerizet]

i wish the gallery would be like GGGB, allowing all variables to be set by us prior so we can see all variations of dialogue/scene as per the story, instead of having to play thru the story every time.

 

[starkj]

Sometimes i wish i could only play as Ian, 2 protags can be interesting but it usually turns into a mess later on.

 

[Akkarin69]

Sometimes i wish i could only play as Ian, 2 protags can be interesting but it usually turns into a mess later on.

Yeah, I feel you. It's a cool concept but right now I'm just trying to play all the different routes for Ian and I wish I could just skip the Lena-Parts completely, especially in all the routes where Ian has nothing much to do with her

 

[vgbestly]

i wish the gallery would be like GGGB, allowing all variables to be set by us prior so we can see all variations of dialogue/scene as per the story, instead of having to play thru the story every time.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't GGGB didn't have a gallery function till like version 0.6 or 60% ish of complete? or was I another game. At first it was a modder that enable a gallery function and you can pick n choose what tattoo,cloths,slutty/good girl Ashley was?

 

[Socrambus]

Probably not. Its weird how Ian can't commit to anyone except Lena and kind of Cindy. I suppose this the spanish dating culture in which you can fuck someone constantly without it meaning its a relationship.

I didn't know it was just a spanish thing, I thought that the "friend with benefits" thing and casual relationships were relatively common all around the West. Also, Ian and Holly have sex like 3-4 times over a period of like 2 months. I don't think it's weird that they are not necessarily in a serious relationship. Maybe Holly being a virgin makes it a bit more strange that she's cool to keep it casual. But I'm spanish too, so maybe that's why it's normal to me.

 

[Akkarin69]

I didn't know it was just a spanish thing, I thought that the "friend with benefits" thing and casual relationships were relatively common all around the West. Also, Ian and Holly have sex like 3-4 times over a period of like 2 months. I don't think it's weird that they are not necessarily in a serious relationship. Maybe Holly being a virgin makes it a bit more strange that she's cool to keep it casual. But I'm spanish too, so maybe that's why it's normal to me.

Holly isn't a virgin, she had two sex-partners in the past.
But I agree with you. In many western/european countries it is kinda 'common' nowadays to have sex a few times before you enter a serious relationship. Or don't enter it at all and keep it 'casual'. More and more people are moving away from 'labels' anyway.

 

[mangosok]

I didn't know it was just a spanish thing, I thought that the "friend with benefits" thing and casual relationships were relatively common all around the West. Also, Ian and Holly have sex like 3-4 times over a period of like 2 months. I don't think it's weird that they are not necessarily in a serious relationship. Maybe Holly being a virgin makes it a bit more strange that she's cool to keep it casual. But I'm spanish too, so maybe that's why it's normal to me.

I just remembered that some of the answers affecting the relationship between Ian and Holly were for some reason inaccessible to me. One answer option was unavailable during the literary event, the other was when Ian did not want to talk about the breakup with his ex-girlfriend. This may have affected the storyline. Holly is not a virgin, btw, she had a similar relationship history. Almost everyone in this game is dead inside.

 

[mangosok]

Holly isn't a virgin, she had two sex-partners in the past.
But I agree with you. In many western/european countries it is kinda 'common' nowadays to have sex a few times before you enter a serious relationship. Or don't enter it at all and keep it 'casual'. More and more people are moving away from 'labels' anyway.

She seems to have had only one partner

 

[Dom Toretto]

Think we could get the android update link yet

 

[Akkarin69]

I just remembered that some of the answers affecting the relationship between Ian and Holly were for some reason inaccessible to me. One answer option was unavailable during the literary event, the other was when Ian did not want to talk about the breakup with his ex-girlfriend. This may have affected the storyline.

You can't talk about it if you haven't deleted the photos of Gillian. Ian needs to be 'over' his Ex to fully open up with Holly.

 

[Socrambus]

Holly isn't a virgin, she had two sex-partners in the past.
But I agree with you. In many western/european countries it is kinda 'common' nowadays to have sex a few times before you enter a serious relationship. Or don't enter it at all and keep it 'casual'. More and more people are moving away from 'labels' anyway.

I had honestly forgotten that Holly is not a virgin. She behaves close enough to one to make it a bit weird for her to accept a casual relationship. But her low self-steem issues make her go along with whatever Ian wants. It would be a nice development if her gaining confidence makes her more assertive to ask Ian for a serious commitment.

I just remembered that some of the answers affecting the relationship between Ian and Holly were for some reason inaccessible to me. One answer option was unavailable during the literary event, the other was when Ian did not want to talk about the breakup with his ex-girlfriend. This may have affected the storyline. Holly is not a virgin, btw, she had a similar relationship history. Almost everyone in this game is dead inside.

The mentally healthiest girl for Ian is Emma by far. She is a good friend, nice, political but not intolerant or self-righteous, doesn't seem to have any baggage from her past... And she likes friend with benefits sex but is open to maybe get serious with the right guy.

 

[mangosok]

You can't talk about it if you haven't deleted the photos of Gillian. Ian needs to be 'over' his Ex to fully open up with Holly.

I wanted to do it, but I didn't have enough "will", lol. Well, now I wonder how the plot will develop in the next updates.

The mentally healthiest girl for Ian is Emma by far. She is a good friend, nice, political but not intolerant or self-righteous, doesn't seem to have any baggage from her past... And she likes friend with benefits sex but is open to maybe get serious with the right guy.

Yes, she's good too, but Perry like her. I think Ian and Holly have more in common

 

[Akkarin69]

I had honestly forgotten that Holly is not a virgin. She behaves close enough to one to make it a bit weird for her to accept a casual relationship. But her low self-steem issues make her go along with whatever Ian wants. It would be a nice development if her gaining confidence makes her more assertive to ask Ian for a serious commitment.

She behaves like that because she is shy, insecure and has low self-esteem because of her previous (bad) relationship. But depending on how you play it, I wouldn't call it casual relationship just because they haven't put a label on it. I think the dialogues between them reflect that perfectly. And at the end of chapter 11, if Ian opens up to her after meeting with Gillian, they are basically 'seriously' together (IMO). In my playthrough Holly even broke a kiss with Lena and apologized to her under tears, telling Lena that she is in love with Ian and finally able to date him and can't do this with Lena anymore.

Also keep in mind that the ingame time period of the story is only a few weeks. Holly makes a lot of progress in this time, but it still only weeks and such things like getting self-esteem take way more time.

 

[| Vee |]

Nope. If lena_fty_bbc is false the entire Marcel sequence won't trigger.

If the code is readied to serve its purpose we can safely assume it will happen. Because Eva did said that epilogue beta/final will have an extra scene so.....

Now cameo character's are getting scene too on expense of MC's/NPC when the focus should be shifted towards them after cutting down chapters!GREAT EK!

In epilogue Lena mentions that Mike's gf found out about his affairs. Lena learns about this from Jeremy, but in my saves Jeremy only said that he know Mike has gf. This is alpha build inconsistency or did I miss something ?

If that true than I guess consequences phase is started as we see mark shutting up Lena in his route. we'll see how that will work. It can also be a bug.

I'll laugh when Ian catches Cindy jumping on Axel's dick when he chose the "romantic" route with her. What else do we expect: play stupid games (betraying your friend by stealing his girlfriend) - win stupid prizes. If Cindy cheated on Wade, there's nothing stopping her from cheating on Ian. Once a hoe, always a hoe.

Whatever at this point, especially if Ian was helping Wade and Cindy still jumps.

 

[ffive]

But I can't understand why Ian doesn't consider Holly his girlfriend if they've had sex several times already and he's said more than once that he's crazy about her. Did I do something wrong?

Ian has supposedly developed fear of commitment after Gillian's betrayal, and it's going to take a lot for him to eventually overcome it. You aren't doing anything wrong, it's more the case of Lena/Ian being exception to this because of "the Red String" thing between them.

 

[Dan8221]

Eva kiss is by far the most talented story writer I've witnessed, I usually hate dual protagonists but I gave this a chance after playing good girl gone bad and it doesn't disappoint. I can't wait until this is finished because it's a masterpiece.

 

[Hungover00]

Oh no I fell in love with my friend's girlfriend who cheated on him with me and now she's going behind my back as well, how could this have happened, she was such a nice girl I never saw her as the cheating type!

Though, Cindy was very obviously unhappy with Wade, I don't believe she shows that level of unhappiness with Ian. But, yeah, if you're already cheating, adding more cheating shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[WatsonJohn]

Yes. There are currently around 4 Cindy paths and the issue with the epilogue is that it hurts the first two:

1. Ian helps Cindy and Wade: Cindy flirts wih Axel anyways, helping Wade seems to be pointless.
2. Ian romances Cindy: Cindy flirts with Axel anyways, all the romantical build-up and the passion of Ian and Cindy during chapter 1-9 becomes moot, since Cindy may just fuck around anyways.

3. Ian fucks Cindy: Cindy flirts with Axel, this is "fair", since Ian doesn't commit to her and possibly also dates Lena/Alison, so Cindy isn't as loyal to Ian.
4. Ian doesn't help Wade and ignores Cindy: Cindy flirts with Axel, this is also logical and the expected result of that plotline.

The payoff for different paths are going to come later. Cindy has always been shown to be receptive to Axel. It's honestly more unbelievable if she's not at the very least slightly flirting with him. Axel gave her a new direction and meaning in life, a source of income, and nude photography can feel quite intimate. I don't get why people are upset of the scene showing how Axel and Cindy have become close. It doesn't automatically mean that Cindy is now cheating or fucking Axel - that would depend on MC choices (hopefully Lena has a part of too). I find it wild that some people have repeatedly played through Cindy's plot and not expect her to flirt with Axel. Not everything revolves around the MC, and other characters have agency and their own motives. In fact, it is generally accepted to be poor writing if other characters' whole being seem to just be about how they relate to the MC.