VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[MF_DOOM]

Though not sure if I buy her explanation either.

Sure, but it's a more reliable source than some random speculation.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Sure, but it's a more reliable source than some random speculation.

No. You're right. We will refrain from jokes, speculations and other things that are fun in the future and dedicate the board only to direct quotes from Evakiss when we are not rudely debating how much NTR is in the game or ways to support or murder Stan and/or Jeremy.

 

[MF_DOOM]

No. You're right. We will refrain from jokes, speculations and other things that are fun in the future and dedicate the board only to direct quotes from Evakiss when we are not rudely debating how much NTR is in the game or ways to support or murder Stan and/or Jeremy.

Sounds about right.

 

[JoJoPool]

I didn't say he'd stop seeing Lena as the result either, i've asked why you think that would make him want to hook up with Lena any less.

I already explained, It wouldn't make him want to hook up with Lena any less (but after her outrage maybe he will), it will make Ivy the better girl which is what Ivy always wants.

TBH i think this is just projection of your personal views on Mike, there's nothing in the game that'd suggest it's the way he thinks.

Maybe, but i know that's how the majority of guys think

Plus, Lena basically throws herself at Mike from the start and is nearly always the person who initiates the hook ups, there's absolutely no reason for him to think she's "hard to get" to begin with.

That's what i've been saying.... and Ivy just added fuel to the fire if she told Mike about Lena's flings (which if it's true proves Ivy is a shitty friend for sure because real friends shouldn't tell your personal stories to other people, but if Ivy did it then the only reason i can think of is it's because to make Lena look bad)

 

[Socrambus]

Sure, and nothing in the game so far appears to outright contradict this idea.

I didn't get the same impression as others in the thread that Cindy and Axel must be fucking for sure. They are work colleagues going out for a drink, the rest is hearsay and speculation from unreliable sources. But it's kind of worrying that's the second time that Cindy interactions with Axel are not affected at all by Ian's choices. I understand it might be to cut down on the game's complexity but it would have been nice if at least the dialogues changed a bit depending on Ian's relationship with both Cindy and Lena or Cindy's relation with Wade. Maybe next chapter starts with Cindy talking to Ian about this before Ian hanging at the pub with the group and we get to see her pov reflecting Ian's different choices.

I already explained, It wouldn't make him want to hook with Lena any less (but after her outrage maybe he will), it will make Ivy the better girl which is what Ivy always wants.

Maybe, but i know that's how the majority of guys think

That's what i've been saying.... and Ivy just added fuel to the fire if she told Mike about Lena's flings

I don't see Ivy giving that much thought to the matter, I see it more like Ivy just fucking Mike because he's a hot cool guy and she felt like that at the moment.

 

[JoJoPool]

I don't see Ivy giving that much thought to the matter, I see it more like Ivy just fucking Mike because he's a hot cool guy and she felt like that at the moment.

Sure, but we're not talking about why Ivy fucked Mike, We're talking about why Ivy (if true) told Mike about Lena's personal affairs.
You may ask why i suspect Ivy in the first place ?
The reason is this isn't the the first time Ivy does this, Remember how she told Lena about Holly and Mark ? and she even showed her a picture of them doing it and she didn't even ask Holly if it's okay to show it to Lena or even tell her about it.
It should have been Holly's decision whether or not to tell Lena about her "adventures" not Ivy's... and some people here think that Ivy is "helping" Holly to break out of her shell but the truth is she's just a puppet that Ivy is playing with.

 

[Socrambus]

Sure, but we're not talking about why Ivy fucked Mike, We're talking about why Ivy (if true) told Mike about Lena's personal affairs.
You may ask why i suspect Ivy in the first place ?
The reason is this isn't the the first time Ivy does this, Remember how she told Lena about Holly and Mark ? and she even showed her a picture of them doing it and she didn't even ask Holly if it's okay to show it to Lena or even tell her about it.
It should have been Holly's decision whether or not to tell Lena about Mark not Ivy's... and some people here think that Ivy is "helping" Holly to break out of her shell but the truth is she's just a puppet that Ivy is playing with.

Sure, she ignores personal boundaries and she's manipulative. But I don't see her telling Mike (if she did) about Lena's affairs in order to make herself look as the better girl in his eyes. I just don't see Ivy giving a fuck about Mike's opinion on her or making an effort to improve her odds to have sex with him again at the cost of Lena's. I see it more likely her just being gossipy or talking about Lena's exploits in a "don't get cocky kid, my Lena gets around, you're not special" way.

But lacking Ivy's pov about her real motivations, who knows?, we can just guess.

 

[Xupuzulla]

I didn't get the same impression as others in the thread that Cindy and Axel must be fucking for sure. They are work colleagues going out for a drink, the rest is hearsay and speculation from unreliable sources. But it's kind of worrying that's the second time that Cindy interactions with Axel are not affected at all by Ian's choices.

Maybe Evakiss needed both Cindy and Alex there not matter your choices with Ian?
Like you said,i think people are overreacting about the whole thing.
Cindy enjoying the nightclub and Alex company is not something new,it literally happens before even in a "pure" Cindy route.

 

[JoJoPool]

Sure, she ignores personal boundaries and she's manipulative. But I don't see her telling Mike (if she did) about Lena's affairs in order to make herself look as the better girl in his eyes. I just don't see Ivy giving a fuck about Mike's opinion on her or making an effort to improve her odds to have sex with him again at the cost of Lena's. I see it more likely her just being gossipy or talking about Lena's exploits in a "don't get cocky kid, my Lena gets around, you're not special" way.

But lacking Ivy's pov about her real motivations, who knows?, we can just guess.

Sure that can also be the case and yes we're just guessing, hopefully Eva doesn't leave us without an answer as to how Mike knows all of that information about Lena, who told him and why.

 

[mangosok]

I remember somebody asking EK during one of her Q&A's about Billy's sudden change and her answer was nothing to do with any fetishes.
If my memory is correct, she wanted to make him like one of those crypto bro's that were popping up some years back.
I dont know if it's the honest truth but it's more credible than your "educated guess" and speculation.

Billy's just like Michael Jackson.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Billy's just like Michael Jackson.

That explains a lot

 

[Socrambus]

Maybe Evakiss needed both Cindy and Alex there not matter your choices with Ian?
Like you said,i think people are overreacting about the whole thing.
Cindy enjoying the nightclub and Alex company is not something new,it literally happens before even in a "pure" Cindy route.

Sure, no problem with Cindy being there no matter what. It would have just been nice if Ian's previous choices added some different flavour to her conversations and interactions. But I get it that it might just be to decrease writing and logic complexity and make it more easily manageable for Eva.

 

[Ragnar]

I mean Cindy is a cheater, ask Wade So don't be surprised if Alex and the black whatshisname tag team her

 

[Razorheadult]

imagine Marcel's super thick bbc in Holly

That's what I wanted to watch long time ago when there was the first interaction between them at the club entrance. I mean not in this hard way, but more in a sweet way, because their dialog was kind of sweet.

 

[dolfe67]

I mean Cindy is a cheater, ask Wade So don't be surprised if Alex and the black whatshisname tag team her

Wade knows nothing

 

[dolfe67]

That's what I wanted to watch long time ago when there was the first interaction between them at the club entrance. I mean not in this hard way, but more in a sweet way, because their dialog was kind of sweet.

Yeah I'm laughing so much thinking about the people who thought Marcel would subvert BBC trope expectations

 

[ffive]

I already explained, It wouldn't make him want to hook up with Lena any less (but after her outrage maybe he will), it will make Ivy the better girl which is what Ivy always wants.

I just don't think this would fit Ivy's established character at all -- Ivy makes it clear that she thinks having casual sex with people is absolutely fine and doesn't make someone look like a worse person. So i doubt she'd think differently when it comes to Mike. The game also goes out of its way to tell the player that Ivy already is "better girl" than Lena -- way more charismatic, self-assured, fit, sexy, etc. She doesn't need to put Lena down, all guys already, entirely on their own, think she's the "queen bee". Remember Ian's and Perry's conversations e.g, as well as Ian's thoughts about Ivy.

I suppose this being the case of simple gossip between Ivy and Mike could be an explanation, but then it'd be weird that Mike knows about stuff like Lena blowing dudes in the club toilet, but not about fucking Axel, something Ivy also knows.

 

[Slick Bean]

Ivy likes to string VIP assholes like Mike or Axxel or Jeremy along for the shits and giggles.
She is alone at the top - SHE DOES NOT PUT OUT FOR THE LIKES OF AXXEL, jEREMY, sEYMOUR OR ANY RATHOLE,
she does not care, she enjoys their attention, but knows full well they are DUMBSTER diving garbage cheating assholes.

Ivy and Mike

Enjoy your ”mercy” at the mouth of ivy, why dont you!

 

[Chartog]

That's what I wanted to watch long time ago when there was the first interaction between them at the club entrance. I mean not in this hard way, but more in a sweet way, because their dialog was kind of sweet.

Holly needs it rough and dirty on the bathroom floor of the club

 

[nayzen]

Ivy likes to string VIP assholes like Mike or Axxel or Jeremy along for the shits and giggles.
She is alone at the top - SHE DOES NOT PUT OUT FOR THE LIKES OF AXXEL, jEREMY, sEYMOUR OR ANY RATHOLE,
she does not care, she enjoys their attention, but knows full well they are DUMBSTER diving garbage cheating assholes.

Enjoy your ”mercy” at the mouth of ivy, why dont you!

Fortunately, Jeremy has never been and will never be a VIP-asshole