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Slick Bean

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She is successful at what she does ... Wolverine would not be such a draw if this was frowned upon.
I would call being profesionally successful.
Ian has been trying and for some players he has successfully outgrown the Perry years.
a Beard Brotherhood at Perry's house
Do not drag MC back in that cess pool of despair he has worked so many game updates to escape.
 

matsuy

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Disclaimer: I've been quite critical w.r.t. the prospects of this endeavour (i.e., ORS) -- in the past.

This update, however, actually (positively) surprised me: Factual progress, in mostly the right directions, delivered in a reasonable timespan... I'd love to give it a 4.5/5 -- _iff_ the introduction of new (and "old") characters at this stage of the development wouldn't immediately raise concerns: How are all those "strings" ever be tied together?!
 

ffive

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How are all those "strings" ever be tied together?!
The way things are going, i suspect my Ian will be looping the red string around his neck by the end of it.

Well, maybe not if Lena manages to pull up from the Axel spiral. And ever gets from under Seymour's spelll. But the odds of that ain't looking good, tbh. :cautious:
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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The way things are going, i suspect my Ian will be looping the red string around his neck by the end of it.

Well, maybe not if Lena manages to pull up from the Axel spiral. And ever gets from under Seymour's spelll. But the odds of that ain't looking good, tbh. :cautious:
Uh, couldn't you just choose to have Lena ignore Axel and not accept to work for Seymour? I don't understand when players complain about Lena being a certain way when the only reason she's that way is because those players are making those choices. I feel like I'm playing a different game than you all are. I have a playthrough wherein Ian and Lena both fuck everyone they can and make a mess of things and I have a playthrough where they have eyes only for each other. Frankly, the first one is hotter and more fun, but the second has its own charms.
 

ffive

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Uh, couldn't you just choose to have Lena ignore Axel and not accept to work for Seymour? I don't understand when players complain about Lena being a certain way when the only reason she's that way is because those players are making those choices.
You misunderstand, i'm not complaining about this outcome. If that's how it works out, then it's how it is. It'll make a solid story, too.

For what's worth, when i picked these options, i was looking to craft a narrative where Lena doesn't manage to make clean break from her past immediately, and is genuinely impressed by Seymour, but ultimately finds her own footing. This was partly because my experience with EK's game was, they'd offer multiple entry/exit points from character story arcs, rather than "you need to stick to the path from get-go" which is how other games usually do it.
 

vgbestly

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LMAO
BTW you can buy a huge black dildo in the epilogue,i wonder what Lena is going to do with it:BootyTime:
And no,shes not going to use it with Stan:HideThePain:
100% Stan the Photography Man is gonna be the one seeing her use it while he takes pictures. He already glazed her with a cumshot; time to take it a step up and blow my boy already. And/or more.
 

Hungover00

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Uh, couldn't you just choose to have Lena ignore Axel and not accept to work for Seymour? I don't understand when players complain about Lena being a certain way when the only reason she's that way is because those players are making those choices. I feel like I'm playing a different game than you all are. I have a playthrough wherein Ian and Lena both fuck everyone they can and make a mess of things and I have a playthrough where they have eyes only for each other. Frankly, the first one is hotter and more fun, but the second has its own charms.
It felt so good to be able to say fuck off to Seymour's contract and Seymour, even when he was trying to coerce Lena into it. Standing tall with Emma, having a burgeoning music and independent model career, watching the cafe turn around.

Yeah, I don't get what folk are complaining about with that option.

The way things are going, i suspect my Ian will be looping the red string around his neck by the end of it.

Well, maybe not if Lena manages to pull up from the Axel spiral. And ever gets from under Seymour's spelll. But the odds of that ain't looking good, tbh. :cautious:
Even on my slutty Lena playthrough, Axel was still kicked to the curb. Fucker is a shiny wife-beater.
 

elysium1988

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Is the flirt with Jack option unlockable? Coz in my save I can't and it's not unlocking even after increasing the lust points. How do we do it?
 

Blurpee69

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So I'm starting to come around on Louise. I didn't like her character at first, but I'm beggining to realize what I didn't like was the game mechanic of balancing her happiness. More than any other character, Lena is punished for having a neutral response or opinion coming from more than one perspective when it comes to Louise. I think that exacerbates the illusion of her clinginess and brattiness, far more than the actual given responses to Lena warrant.

Don't get me wrong, Louise is still needy, but at the same time Lena really doesn't spend that much time with her. They go out to celebrate Louise's graduation and they'll watch a movie together if Lena brings Holly home with her after going to the club; without inviting Louise I might add. The only other time they go out together is if Lena doesn't tell Louise about Jeremy hooking up with other women, and that's a whole other level of "not very cash money." Louise on the other hand goes out to support Lena's concert pretty much no matter what.

She has some pretty genuine moments with Lena, and I think a lot of her clinginess comes from the fear of losing her friendship with Lena. Lena has made a lot of new friends in the game, and unless the player specifically goes out of their way to make Lena a complete loser, is becoming pretty independantly successfull; whether its through her modeling pursuits, meeting Seymour, or her song writting. Louise even admits her lashing out at Stan about the rent increase was more about her financial worries than anything to do with Stan himself; though she will hate Stan anyway.

It's really kind of a shame that if Lena rejects Louise's kiss when she's emotionally distraught about Jeremy, that a lot of Lena's more sympathetic responses, and the resulting discussion, automatically get blocked. Which brings me back to game mechanics I don't necessarily think give Louise a fair shake.
 

yuvce

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So I'm starting to come around on Louise. I didn't like her character at first, but I'm beggining to realize what I didn't like was the game mechanic of balancing her happiness. More than any other character, Lena is punished for having a neutral response or opinion coming from more than one perspective when it comes to Louise. I think that exacerbates the illusion of her clinginess and brattiness, far more than the actual given responses to Lena warrant.

Don't get me wrong, Louise is still needy, but at the same time Lena really doesn't spend that much time with her. They go out to celebrate Louise's graduation and they'll watch a movie together if Lena brings Holly home with her after going to the club; without inviting Louise I might add. The only other time they go out together is if Lena doesn't tell Louise about Jeremy hooking up with other women, and that's a whole other level of "not very cash money." Louise on the other hand goes out to support Lena's concert pretty much no matter what.

She has some pretty genuine moments with Lena, and I think a lot of her clinginess comes from the fear of losing her friendship with Lena. Lena has made a lot of new friends in the game, and unless the player specifically goes out of their way to make Lena a complete loser, is becoming pretty independantly successfull; whether its through her modeling pursuits, meeting Seymour, or her song writting. Louise even admits her lashing out at Stan about the rent increase was more about her financial worries than anything to do with Stan himself; though she will hate Stan anyway.

It's really kind of a shame that if Lena rejects Louise's kiss when she's emotionally distraught about Jeremy, that a lot of Lena's more sympathetic responses, and the resulting discussion, automatically get blocked. Which brings me back to game mechanics I don't necessarily think give Louise a fair shake.
Her clinginess and brattiness are no illusion. Lena being the only friend that Louise has is not a reflection on Lena, it's a reflection on Louise. This is someone who throws a tantrum if Lena gives even 1% of her attention to literally anyone else. Wanting to spend time with Lena in and of itself is not the problem, it's that Louise thinks Lena ONLY belongs to her. This sort of behaviour is vexatious. Realistically, who has the tolerance to put up with her? Let me quote Ivy on this: "How old are you? Fifteen?"
 
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So I'm starting to come around on Louise. I didn't like her character at first, but I'm beggining to realize what I didn't like was the game mechanic of balancing her happiness. More than any other character, Lena is punished for having a neutral response or opinion coming from more than one perspective when it comes to Louise. I think that exacerbates the illusion of her clinginess and brattiness, far more than the actual given responses to Lena warrant.

Don't get me wrong, Louise is still needy, but at the same time Lena really doesn't spend that much time with her. They go out to celebrate Louise's graduation and they'll watch a movie together if Lena brings Holly home with her after going to the club; without inviting Louise I might add. The only other time they go out together is if Lena doesn't tell Louise about Jeremy hooking up with other women, and that's a whole other level of "not very cash money." Louise on the other hand goes out to support Lena's concert pretty much no matter what.

She has some pretty genuine moments with Lena, and I think a lot of her clinginess comes from the fear of losing her friendship with Lena. Lena has made a lot of new friends in the game, and unless the player specifically goes out of their way to make Lena a complete loser, is becoming pretty independantly successfull; whether its through her modeling pursuits, meeting Seymour, or her song writting. Louise even admits her lashing out at Stan about the rent increase was more about her financial worries than anything to do with Stan himself; though she will hate Stan anyway.

It's really kind of a shame that if Lena rejects Louise's kiss when she's emotionally distraught about Jeremy, that a lot of Lena's more sympathetic responses, and the resulting discussion, automatically get blocked. Which brings me back to game mechanics I don't necessarily think give Louise a fair shake.
I also started to like Loise but with an entirely different reason. Her negative points almost entirely come from Stan and at the end she was right about him. Even if Lena being nice to him, he still creeps around and when he confesses if Lena refuses him their relation take a huge hit.
Yeah maybe he did not steal the panties but if he had found it before Loise he'd probably jerk off with it.
 
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LoneWaker59

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The way things are going, i suspect my Ian will be looping the red string around his neck by the end of it.
I think Wade has a better chance of doing this if Ian x Cindy exists and he wasn't encouraged to participate in the gaming tournament.

In fact, come to think of it, the most destructive relationship in the game is Cindy, Ian only has to lose by dating her, he's going to lose all his friends, maybe he's going to lose Lena/Holly when the relationship comes to light (the two main characters of the game lol).
 

camube

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Tbh, reading the script that was pretty creepy for me -- Mike will potentially call out every single case of Lena having sex with another guy and i was mostly like, "dude, for a supposed laid back guy who just wants to hook up, stalking much?" Kinda makes me side-eye Mike now.
yeah that was pretty surprising

how did Mike have eyes everywhere?
 

ffive

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Is the flirt with Jack option unlockable? Coz in my save I can't and it's not unlocking even after increasing the lust points. How do we do it?
Lena can only flirt with Jack if she isn't in relationship with Ian, or if she's cheated on Ian already (also needs Lust at 6+ but that shouldn't be too hard at this point)

The flirting is supposed to culminate in sex scene if taken all the way, but the scene isn't implemented yet. Should be added in updated version of the epilogue.
 
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camube

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Yup, as long as your Lena is fairly athletic and won't take her shit.

Note, this does ding your performance score somewhat, but it's like, 2 points (-1 instead of +1) when you can get 7+ score pretty easily, and right now you only need 2+ points for the best outcome.
can i ask, 2+ points for best outcome for what?
 

ffive

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can i ask, 2+ points for best outcome for what?
Currently it determines how much money from tips Lena receives at the end of her shift, and potentially increases Jeremy's opinion on Lena, if she did a really good job:
Python:
    if v11barpoints > 2:
        j "It was great! Having Lena tonight really made a difference. And we got really good tips!"
        call money (2) from _call_money_7
        l "Great! Seems I did a good job after all..."
        if lena_jeremy < 12:
            call friend_xp ('jeremy') from _call_friend_xp_1078
    elif v11barpoints > 1:
        j "It was a good night! Busy, but we got some good tips!"
        if lena_money < 5:
            call money (2) from _call_money_139
        else:
            call money (1) from _call_money_140
        l "That's nice..."
    elif v11barpoints > 0:
        j "It was alright! Busy night as usual. Let's share the tips..."
        call money (1) from _call_money_141
    else:
        j "People were troublesome tonight... And they hardly left any tips."
        if lena_money < 5:
            call money (1) from _call_money_142
I'd guess the score might also influence if Lena gets another offer to help at the club, if there's such a thing.
 
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