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Socrambus

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You misunderstand, i'm not complaining about this outcome. If that's how it works out, then it's how it is. It'll make a solid story, too.

For what's worth, when i picked these options, i was looking to craft a narrative where Lena doesn't manage to make clean break from her past immediately, and is genuinely impressed by Seymour, but ultimately finds her own footing. This was partly because my experience with EK's game was, they'd offer multiple entry/exit points from character story arcs, rather than "you need to stick to the path from get-go" which is how other games usually do it.
Your narrative looks similar to playing a recovering heroine addict and, instead of keeping her a mile away from any drug tentation, make her indulge a bit and surely she will find her own footing in the future. Lena's it's not your standard breaking up a relationship with a kind of ashole ex. She was totally dominated by Axel and she has deep psychological issues from it. You can see this clearly if you play Ian in a certain way that she's basically substituting Axel with Ian and Ian is well on his way to be an Axel 2.0.

Her clinginess and brattiness are no illusion. Lena being the only friend that Louise has is not a reflection on Lena, it's a reflection on Louise. This is someone who throws a tantrum if Lena gives even 1% of her attention to literally anyone else. Wanting to spend time with Lena in and of itself is not the problem, it's that Louise thinks Lena ONLY belongs to her. This sort of behaviour is vexatious. Realistically, who has the tolerance to put up with her? Let me quote Ivy on this: "How old are you? Fifteen?"
Lena is her only friend onscreen, I assume she has other friends/acquaintances offscreen. It's not like Stan than you can perfectly imagine having no other IRL interactions.

I think Wade has a better chance of doing this if Ian x Cindy exists and he wasn't encouraged to participate in the gaming tournament.

In fact, come to think of it, the most destructive relationship in the game is Cindy, Ian only has to lose by dating her, he's going to lose all his friends, maybe he's going to lose Lena/Holly when the relationship comes to light (the two main characters of the game lol).
It's not clear that it would be so devastating. Of course Ian would lose Wade and almost surely Perry. I don't think he would lose Jeremy and I have my doubts with Allison and Emma. I don't remember Holly even talking to Wade and you can see Lena's reaction to the possibility on the epilogue. She doesn't confront Ian with it no matter what relationship they have (which I think it's pretty weird and even OOC) and if she never had any kind of romantic relationship with Ian, she's surprised by it but concludes it has nothing to do with her and it's something for Ian and his group of friends to deal with.
 
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DarkDaemonX

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I wish someone would make a mod that has you make choices what path you want when you start a new game, (similar to the questions it asks for the gallery scene variation choices), so we don't have to figure out the specific choices we have to make to end up at those paths ourselves, as it would take too long to figure it out ourselves, it can just highlight the choices we have to make depending on the route we want to play, of course it would have spoilers, but those wanting the mod should be okay with that.
 

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I wish someone would make a mod that has you make choices what path you want when you start a new game, (similar to the questions it asks for the gallery scene variation choices), so we don't have to figure out the specific choices we have to make to end up at those paths ourselves, as it would take too long to figure it out ourselves, it can just highlight the choices we have to make depending on the route we want to play, of course it would have spoilers, but those wanting the mod should be okay with that.
Problem is that there are too many paths and variables. You don't enter a character route and are locked in it, instead you can intertwine with other characters and get out of a route constantly.

Isn't there a patch that explains what every choice means, so it can guide you towards each characters route?
 

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Are the future prologues/epilogues only exclusively covering Lena? Will Ian get some or will they both be featured in the future?
 

DarkDaemonX

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Problem is that there are too many paths and variables. You don't enter a character route and are locked in it, instead you can intertwine with other characters and get out of a route constantly.

Isn't there a patch that explains what every choice means, so it can guide you towards each characters route?
That's exactly why a guide would be important based on the route you want.

It only shows what points you get or lose, nothing more, if I remember correctly.
 

rj677

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funny, it's the game that constantly throws these characters at me, even if I reject them they keep appearing, it's as if the game told me "Lena is going to be a bitch whether you like it or not" and Ian well ian not even with all her stats to the maximum can face anyone.
Oh no, an AVN keeps throwing characters at you.... Oh no, whatever can you do?? Surely thats not something that happens in almost all AVNs....:rolleyes::FacePalm:

At least you can and have options to reject them here, unlike some other games where they force you to accept one to fuck/be in a relationship with the other (Wait, I think I have seen you on a thread where the dev actually does that same thing... Strange...:unsure:)

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Does anyone know the requirements for Ian to film Lena in the epilogue? It happens on some route and others not. Is it just a lust requirement or does Lena need to be on Stalkfap?
First condition if Lena called Ian for stalkfap photoshot in CH11 Ian will auto record this(nochoices):


While second condition is if Ian is subscribed to stalkfap And you should tell Lena to let her "It turns me on" or have Lust>7 Lena is given a choice to select to record or not:

CH10 Lena's concert in Bar:
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CH11 epilogue:
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I wonder if there is more to Cindy than what meets the eye:unsure:. Ian is correct in this scenario when Lena is performing in the bar. Cindy was pretty much in control of herself in how she was behaving, heck every time if I remember correctly. What do you guys think?

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First condition if Lena called Ian for stalkfap photoshot in CH11 Ian will auto record this(nochoices):


While second condition is if Ian is subscribed to stalkfap And you should tell Lena to let her "It turns me on" or have Lust>7 Lena is given a choice to select to record or not:

CH10 Lena's concert in Bar:
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Yep, without stalkfap Ian needs 8 lust which is why I didn't get it on my romantic ian-lena save
 

fatpussy123

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I wonder if there is more to Cindy than what meets the eye:unsure:. Ian is correct in this scenario when Lena is performing in the bar. Cindy was pretty much in control of herself in how she was behaving, heck every time if I remember correctly. What do you guys think?

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Thing about her is she is constantly lying to Wade on her path. First when she's sneaking behind her back to do the photoshoot, her constant flirting with Ian, then when she sleeps with or kisses Ian in the alley, and finally when Ian solidifies their relationship. So she has a lot of practice lying to Wade, her being able to keep her composure isn't surprising to me.
 

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Problem is that there are too many paths and variables. You don't enter a character route and are locked in it, instead you can intertwine with other characters and get out of a route constantly.

Isn't there a patch that explains what every choice means, so it can guide you towards each characters route?
That's exactly why a guide would be important based on the route you want.

It only shows what points you get or lose, nothing more, if I remember correctly.
There is a guide though, on the main page, written by Mr. Bubu. It's not quite up to date, only going to the chapter 11 prologue, but I'm not sure why you're discussing a lack of a guide when one exists.
 
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Socrambus

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Girls are good at this.
That was what I was going to say. Women are way better at cheating than men (the ones that cheat, obviously, not all of them). They are rarely caught unless the guy takes some borderline legal (or just plain ilegal depending on your country) measures like surveillance on their phones. Or due to some very lucky (for the guy) coincidence. Whereas I've heard of some guys caught cheating because their behaviour was extremely dumb and unsubtle. We tend to think too much with our dicks and that's specially true for cheating men.

Thing about her is she is constantly lying to Wade on her path. First when she's sneaking behind her back to do the photoshoot, her constant flirting with Ian, then when she sleeps with or kisses Ian in the alley, and finally when Ian solidifies their relationship. So she has a lot of practice lying to Wade, her being able to keep her composure isn't surprising to me.
Also all the practice she probably had faking orgasms if we trust her dialogue during sex with Ian.
 
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I wonder if there is more to Cindy than what meets the eye:unsure:. Ian is correct in this scenario when Lena is performing in the bar. Cindy was pretty much in control of herself in how she was behaving, heck every time if I remember correctly. What do you guys think?

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She's a skank who has no qualms with cheating. And yet 2 seconds later, she berates Wade just for talking with Ivy.
 

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There is a guide though, on the main page, written by Mr. Bubu. It's not quite up to date, only going to the chapter 11 prologue, but I'm not sure why you're discussing a lack of a guide when one exists.
That walkthrough is way too messy, and if you read my post, you'd know that's not the kind I was talking about.
 

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Your narrative looks similar to playing a recovering heroine addict and, instead of keeping her a mile away from any drug tentation, make her indulge a bit and surely she will find her own footing in the future.
I suppose this is one, unfavorable way to look at it. I view it instead as narrative where the point of firm "stay a mile away from any drug" comes in the middle of the story instead of right at the start. Because, honestly, if you do it from the start then there's very little story as a result -- Lena simply successfully gets over Axel without any apparent difficulty or a slip-up, the end. Which is also kind of hard to buy, given what you say about her:

Lena's it's not your standard breaking up a relationship with a kind of ashole ex. She was totally dominated by Axel and she has deep psychological issues from it. You can see this clearly if you play Ian in a certain way that she's basically substituting Axel with Ian and Ian is well on his way to be an Axel 2.0.
Oh, absolutely. She displays similar, though not as telegraphed, issues in her relationship with Seymour. You can get some insight in her thought process from her monologues and recent talk with Holly -- Lena is incredibly tired of what she perceives as living on her own against whole hostile world, her big secret dream is to have "someone who'd take care of her for once". That's why the idea of submitting to Axel/Seymour/Ian is so appealing. Whether this was caused by Axel, or if his approach just resonated very strongly with Lena's desire, is up to interpretation.
 
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Are the future prologues/epilogues only exclusively covering Lena? Will Ian get some or will they both be featured in the future?
Which character the chapter starts with and who it ends with varies between chapters. So, no, it just happened this time that the epilogue was Lena-focused. There's a good chance Ch.12 will start with Ian e.g., so any potential prologue would be about him.
 
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