VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[| Vee |]

Thing about her is she is constantly lying to Wade on her path. First when she's sneaking behind her back to do the photoshoot, her constant flirting with Ian, then when she sleeps with or kisses Ian in the alley, and finally when Ian solidifies their relationship. So she has a lot of practice lying to Wade, her being able to keep her composure isn't surprising to me.

That was what I was going to say. Women are way better at cheating than men (the ones that cheat, obviously, not all of them). They are rarely caught unless the guy takes some borderline legal (or just plain ilegal depending on your country) measures like surveillance on their phones. Or due to some very lucky (for the guy) coincidence. Whereas I've heard of some guys caught cheating because their behaviour was extremely dumb and unsubtle. We tend to think too much with our dicks and that's specially true for cheating men.
Also all the practice she probably had faking orgasms if we trust her dialogue during sex with Ian.

The issue is, it is not implemented/hinted that Cindy has cheated before in past and Cindy was pretty much in control of herself from THE START. I checked her path carefully and NO THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MOMENT WHERE CINDY IS CAUGHT OFF-GUARD/FUMBLED ABOUT HER THING WITH IAN. NO INSECURITY, NOT ANY UNUSAL BEHAVOR or anything. She plays the role PERFECT for some who is doing it first time. Not even Wade when she messaged Ian in her underwear or anyone notices at any instance. That is not something people tend to easily control themselves at especially on their first time and if she didn't cheat ever before and this is her first time than Cindy is NOT JUST SOME DUMB BLONDIE bcz that kinda thing a dumb person cannot pull off with that ease. We can see even Ian sometimes is caught off-guard sometimes or behave in a certain way. So, Cindy might be fooling us too by projecting herself as "Oh! She's just a dumb Blondie!". We'll see how things will be revealed BUT I am skeptical.

 

[LoneWaker59]

well it was quite a curious experience, but I couldn't expect less from the creator of Good Girl Gone Bad.

Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that Ian gets all these girls but with Lena he accepts being a cuck if you choose the options for that? the most "chad" character in the game so far is Axel, it would be the same as him getting all the female characters but with Lena being like "do you want me to ask Ian to come talk to you my queen?"

 

[fatpussy123]

The issue is, it is not implemented/hinted that Cindy has cheated before in past and Cindy was pretty much in control of herself from the start. I checked her path carefully and NO THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MOMENT WHERE CINDY IS CAUGHT OFF-GUARD/FUMBLED ABOUT HER THING WITH IAN. NO INSECURITY, NOT ANY UNUSAL BEHAVOR or anything. She plays the role PERFECT for some who is doing it first time. Not even Wade when she messaged Ian in her underwear or anyone notices at any instance. That is not something people tend to easily control themselves and if she didn't cheat ever before and this is her first time than Cindy is NOT JUST SOME DUMB BLONDIE bcz that kinda thing a dumb person cannot pull off with that ease. We can see even Ian sometimes is caught off-guard sometimes or behave in a certain way. So, Cindy might be fooling us too by projecting herself as "Oh! She's just a dumb Blondie!". We'll see how things will be revealed BUT I am skeptical.

I don't think she is just a dumb blonde. She is highly manipulative and is used to getting her way. That alone to me explains the behavior youve mentioned. All other instances that people use to call her a dumb blonde can be explained by her being very self absorbed, petty, or jealous.

For example her interactions with Lena this epilogue. She unprompted brings up her relationship with Axel. If Lena isnt too emotional she can clock that Cindy is fishing for a reaction. I think the reason being that Cindy is looking for a reason to justify her dislike of Lena. She is obviously jealous of Lena, they're very similar but from Cindy's perspective Lena is just further along then her. Lena is further along in her modeling career, Lena gets praised for her singing, Lena is the talk of the friend group at the start of the game, and if Cindy is into Ian she is jealous about Ian's interest in Lena. All that being said, none of those are valid reasons for her to be so hostile to Lena when talking to the friend group, so she is either subconsciously or consciously trying to find a reason to justify her dislike of Lena. She tries to get rise out of her using Axel at bait.

I also don't think she has slept with Axel in any path considering how Axel talks about it. If they did sleep together either Axel would want to brag about it or keep it an absolute secret. Not this half baked thing where he says Cindy wants to sleep with him but he's such a big man that he doesn't let her. We saw how he reacted when Ian prevented him from touching Cindy, he got mad. So no way he isn't interested.

Maybe it is the case that Cindy is playing Axel and unlike the smartest Lena, Axel is dumb enough to fall for it. Think about how Cindy enjoys sex, she needs things to go her way and doesn't like things too rough, she didn't like Ian's hard slap. You think she'd enjoy Axels rough sex? Doubt. Not initially at least, maybe Axel can build up to it.

I think the best comparison to make is her relationship to Axel is similar to Ivy's relationship to Jeremy, initially she is playing him to get what she wants, but if our MCs push her she might end up going all the way with him.

 

[ffive]

Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that Ian gets all these girls but with Lena he accepts being a cuck if you choose the options for that?

Not really strange imo, it's pretty common thing (almost to the point of stereotype) for people who project dominant behavior to secretly be into being dominated themselves, because being in charge all the time can be extremely exhausting in the long run. So for "chad Ian" it could easily be Lena he'd let in such a role -- given their "red string" connection he might feel comfortable enough with her to let his guard down around her.

 

[fatpussy123]

Not really strange imo, it's pretty common thing (almost to the point of stereotype) for people who project dominant behavior to secretly be into being dominated themselves, because being in charge all the time can be extremely exhausting in the long run. So for "chad Ian" it could easily be Lena he'd let in such a role -- given their "red string" connection he might feel comfortable enough with her to let his guard down around her.

Also the other girls never try to to dominate/cuck Ian. Maybe if they talked about their passed partners while giving him a handy he might enjoy that too.

 

[| Vee |]

I don't think she is just a dumb blonde. She is highly manipulative and is used to getting her way. That alone to me explains the behavior youve mentioned. All other instances that people use to call her a dumb blonde can be explained by her being very self absorbed, petty, or jealous.

For example her interactions with Lena this epilogue. She unprompted brings up her relationship with Axel. If Lena isnt too emotional she can clock that Cindy is fishing for a reaction. I think the reason being that Cindy is looking for a reason to justify her dislike of Lena. She is obviously jealous of Lena, they're very similar but from Cindy's perspective Lena is just further along then her. Lena is further along in her modeling career, Lena gets praised for her singing, Lena is the talk of the friend group at the start of the game, and if Cindy is into Ian she is jealous about Ian's interest in Lena. All that being said, none of those are valid reasons for her to be so hostile to Lena when talking to the friend group, so she is either subconsciously or consciously trying to find a reason to justify her dislike of Lena. She tries to get rise out of her using Axel at bait.

I also don't think she has slept with Axel in any path considering how Axel talks about it. If they did sleep together either Axel would want to brag about it or keep it an absolute secret. Not this half baked thing where he says Cindy wants to sleep with him but he's such a big man that he doesn't let her. We saw how he reacted when Ian prevented him from touching Cindy, he got mad. So no way he isn't interested.

Maybe it is the case that Cindy is playing Axel and unlike the smartest Lena, Axel is dumb enough to fall for it. Think about how Cindy enjoys sex, she needs things to go her way and doesn't like things too rough, she didn't like Ian's hard slap. You think she'd enjoy Axels rough sex? Doubt. Not initially at least, maybe Axel can build up to it.

I think the best comparison to make is her relationship to Axel is similar to Ivy's relationship to Jeremy, initially she is playing him to get what she wants, but if our MCs push her she might end up going all the way with him.

You've made compelling argument's. I agree with you. Cindy also needs some emotional connection to the person to get intimate with as she found that emotional connection with Ian that she was missing with Wade for a while. On top of that Ian understands her unlike Wade. I too believe Axel was just using Cindy to lure in Lena while Cindy was just trying to have an edge on Lena.

 

[| Vee |]

Also the other girls never try to to dominate/cuck Ian. Maybe if they talked about their passed partners while giving him a handy he might enjoy that too.

In the end it will still fall upon Player's preferences and the Path's will simply split according.

 

[ffive]

Also the other girls never try to to dominate/cuck Ian. Maybe if they talked about their passed partners while giving him a handy he might enjoy that too.

Now am picturing Holly screaming at Ian in the middle of riding him, "Say my name, you little bitch! SAY MY NAME!"

 

[| Vee |]

Now am picturing Holly screaming at Ian in the middle of riding him, "Say my name, you little bitch! SAY MY NAME!"

Or The Cuck IanxLenaxHolly throuple

 

[albul]

Can't help but notice that the gap in number of scenes for Lena vs Ian keeps getting larger and larger with each update. Although, I shouldn't be surprised given that dev's previous game was FemMC only.

 

[ffive]

Or The Cuck IanxLenaxHolly throuple

Lena and Holly dominating Ian together?

 

[MixQQ]

Can't help but notice that the gap in number of scenes for Lena vs Ian keeps getting larger and larger with each update. Although, I shouldn't be surprised given that dev's previous game was FemMC only.

don't forget, but lena has a lesbian scenes, if Ian was a BI he would get much more

 

[ffive]

Can't help but notice that the gap in number of scenes for Lena vs Ian keeps getting larger and larger with each update. Although, I shouldn't be surprised given that dev's previous game was FemMC only.

Ian's scenes tend to be more developed, full scale sex affairs, while half of Lena's is "blow some guy in a bathroom or wherever" so it's not exactly the same in terms of how easily they get produced and added. (then there's also lesbian scenes, like MixQQ brings up)

I don't think many players would be enthusiastic with option for Ian to blow random dudes from the male cast in the bathrooms, to even the count

 

[MF_DOOM]

I don't think many players would be enthusiastic with option for Ian to blow random dudes in the bathrooms, to even the count

No homo

 

[Socrambus]

I suppose this is one, unfavorable way to look at it. I view it instead as narrative where the point of firm "stay a mile away from any drug" comes in the middle of the story instead of right at the start. Because, honestly, if you do it from the start then there's very little story as a result -- Lena simply successfully gets over Axel without any apparent difficulty or a slip-up, the end. Which is also kind of hard to buy, given what you say about her:

You can play Lena being tempted with the photos, getting horny during the photoshoot with him, blowjob dream... but using a will point to push him away when he kisses you at his appartment. If Lena has sex with him there, she's dominated again and it's clearly on the way to her old self. Maybe in future chapters, Eva provides a way for her to get out from Axel again, but I don't think is unreasonable that at the current state of the game if you fuck him you are back to being his toy.

The issue is, it is not implemented/hinted that Cindy has cheated before in past and Cindy was pretty much in control of herself from THE START. I checked her path carefully and NO THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MOMENT WHERE CINDY IS CAUGHT OFF-GUARD/FUMBLED ABOUT HER THING WITH IAN. NO INSECURITY, NOT ANY UNUSAL BEHAVOR or anything. She plays the role PERFECT for some who is doing it first time. Not even Wade when she messaged Ian in her underwear or anyone notices at any instance. That is not something people tend to easily control themselves at especially on their first time and if she didn't cheat ever before and this is her first time than Cindy is NOT JUST SOME DUMB BLONDIE bcz that kinda thing a dumb person cannot pull off with that ease. We can see even Ian sometimes is caught off-guard sometimes or behave in a certain way. So, Cindy might be fooling us too by projecting herself as "Oh! She's just a dumb Blondie!". We'll see how things will be revealed BUT I am skeptical.

I never got the impression that Cindy is dumb. I think that's coming a bit from the dumb blonde trope. She can be petty, jealous, cheap and a bit of a diva with a weakness for flattery but I don't think she's an idiot. She's a hot girl used to things going her way because she's a hot girl. But it's also implied that she doesn't have a lot of sexual skill (that usually comes from experience), so we can guess that she got what she wanted just by teasing, not by giving sexual favors left and right (that would be more Ivy's style) and that entails a certain skill at manipulating people.

 

[albul]

Ian's scenes tend to be more developed, full scale sex affairs, while half of Lena's is "blow some guy in a bathroom or wherever" so it's not exactly the same in terms of how easily they get produced and added. (then there's also lesbian scenes, like MixQQ brings up)

I don't think many players would be enthusiastic with option for Ian to blow random dudes from the male cast in the bathrooms, to even the count

Eh, not like Ian doesn't have filler scenes like sexting and masturbating to porn. Not sure why you're discarding lesbian scenes, though, they're still scenes with Lena.

 

[ffive]

You can play Lena being tempted with the photos, getting horny during the photoshoot with him, blowjob dream... but using a will point to push him away when he kisses you at his appartment. If Lena has sex with him there, she's dominated again and it's clearly on the way to her old self. Maybe in future chapters, Eva provides a way for her to get out from Axel again, but I don't think is unreasonable that at the current state of the game if you fuck him you are back to being his toy.

Yes, that's why i said if it ends up this way i'm fine with such resolution, too. Although, since EK usually provides more points to drop character's route, and it only gets "officially" established in this epilogue, i hope there will be an opportunity for it. But if there isn't then it's fair enough -- it's certainly reasonable given all that's happened, and actually being caught up in a route i can't get out of is an interesting experience, a little bit mirroring Lena, in fact.

 

[ffive]

Eh, not like Ian doesn't have filler scenes like sexting and masturbating to porn. Not sure why you're discarding lesbian scenes, though, they're still scenes with Lena.

I'm not discarding lesbian scenes. They are, in fact, a big part why Lena gets more scenes in general -- because she gets to have sex with most of the game's cast, while Ian only gets it on with female half of it.

 

[Socrambus]

Can't help but notice that the gap in number of scenes for Lena vs Ian keeps getting larger and larger with each update. Although, I shouldn't be surprised given that dev's previous game was FemMC only.

Ian might be an above average guy but Lena is a bi hot girl and a nude model. If you want the game to be semi-realistic there has to be a gap at least as large as it's in the current version of the game.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

I'm not discarding lesbian scenes. They are, in fact, a big part why Lena gets more scenes in general -- because she gets to have sex with most of the game's cast, while Ian only gets it on with female half of it.

Can't imagine that we would have a gay scene with Ian. The chaos would have been too loud that we could start to hear the pages.