VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Ray_D]

I don't even get the purpose of this poll. As Eva said, most pairings and their kinks have been established. Introducing new ones out of the blue would be inconsistent with their characters and once again turn the game from character-driven to a porn fest.

They aren't even new to begin with.

Romance - Ian already is lovey dovey with most of the girls. Whats there to add beyond intimate kissing and staring?
Anal - Already there with some girls. Some explicitly didn't like it, so further forcing it on them would only work with chad Ian and the girls reducing to porn characters.
MMF - Already set up. Ian/Lena/Wade, possibly Perry. Of course, MMF is mostly pretense to cuck Ian, so I'd rather have a normal one. Maybe we get Jeremy/Mike with Lena/Ivy
FFM - Already a bunch, Lena/Louise and Lena/Holly can happen again. Also anything with Ivy.
Maledom/hardcore - I don't see hardcore in this game, it would be too much of a jump to GGGB. Worst would be Axel manhandling her. And on Lenas route and with chad Ian the game is already fairly maledom oriented, ignoring the cucking (which also includes a maledom bull) and the vanilla.
Femdom/humiliation - Aside from Lena, no female character was set up to be inclined in that direction. Minerva may have tried it, but Ian doesn't really fold. Ivy could theoretically do it, but she too is portrayed as being dismissive about weak men and wanting confidents "alphas".
Cunnilingus/69 - Often used during foreplay scenes. Lena already got some scenes, maybe extending one and focusing on it works? Dunno.
BJ/Deepthroat - Also already used during foreplay.
Foot fetish - Ivy claimed to be disgusted by it, but it could be interpreted as a tease. Else Lena for cuck Ian.
Lesbian - Already Lena, Holly, Louise and Ivy. Emma and Eli are likely. The Lena/Cindy crowd are anticipating it, for sure.
Rimjob - Done with Emma and Lena, supposedly can expand on other characters.
Spitplay - No character properly set-up for this. If the scene with Bad Jess still leads to her never seeing Ian again, then we have to double down on chad Ian and Axel/Mike being even more mean to the girls.
Water sports - Variation of cunnilingus. Would be a bit weird for Ian to now mention that he wants to lap them up.
Toys- Lena is using them throughout the entire game. A male variant could be a change for once, but it would probably be a fleshlight for cuck Ian.
BBC - I assume Marcel gets a few more scenes and Jeremy is already connected to five girls, is there really a demand to introduce a horde of faceless blacks and turn all the remaining girls into it?
Cuckolding - Would be interesting if it happens to a female. Else, Ian is already jumping into the abyss.
Fisting - Thats new. Most girls seem to tame for it, so perverted Lena and maybe Ivy.
Striptease - A bit used in foreplay/undress scenes, but this could fit Ivy very well.
Prostitution - Again, a leap in GGGB. Lena and Ivy use stalkfap, I can't imagine the other girls wanting or needing to do it.
Public/risky - Could be used more I suppose, and Lena already can develop the exhibitionism kink for it.

Overall, it seems redudant to make a poll since most fetishes are either already firmly established or are unnatural on most girls. Lena and especially Ivy have the most potential. Has Eva no creativity with the rest of the game? Maybe its beneficial to ask the customers for ideas and their demands, but in this genre the players don't necessarily know whats best for them and it may be better if the developer just sticks with their vision without outside interference.

I guess to give patreons a false impression that their choices really matter.

 

[Andrea9999]

Lena in a MMF prostitution situation with Jeremy and Marcel behind the ally at the work/club CONFIRMED...also Lena thinks Ian doesn't know (He's watching it from around the corner and on video after Jeremy shares it.)

That could be interesting, though I think it could also be Lena pimped out by Agnes.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Updated Score:

Romantic sex
176


Anal sex
160


MMF Threesome
279


FFM Threesome
220


Maledom/hardcore
206


Femdom/humiliation
128


Cunnilingus/69
75


Blowjob/deepthroat
146


Foot fetish
38


Lesbian
149


Rimjob(male)
89


Rimjob (female)
92


Spit play
78


Water sports
109


Toys/dildo/masturbation
50


BBC/size queen
253


Cuckolding
214


Fisting
64


Striptease
104


Prostitution
284


Public/risky sex
307

Another Update: I was really hoping new people who voted wouldn't be cucks, but nothing really changed.

Romantic sex
266


Anal sex
245


MMF Threesome
414


FFM Threesome
346


Maledom/hardcore
311


Femdom/humiliation
190


Cunnilingus/69
113


Blowjob/deepthroat
225


Foot fetish
54


Lesbian
248


Rimjob(male)
129


Rimjob (female)
135


Spit play
118


Water sports
162


Toys/dildo/masturbation
87


BBC/size queen
386


Cuckolding
335


Fisting
98


Striptease
159


Prostitution
437


Public/risky sex
479

 

[Ray_D]

Another Update: I was really hoping new people who voted wouldn't be cucks, but nothing really changed.

Romantic sex
266


Anal sex
245


MMF Threesome
414


FFM Threesome
346


Maledom/hardcore
311


Femdom/humiliation
190


Cunnilingus/69
113


Blowjob/deepthroat
225


Foot fetish
54


Lesbian
248


Rimjob(male)
129


Rimjob (female)
135


Spit play
118


Water sports
162


Toys/dildo/masturbation
87


BBC/size queen
386


Cuckolding
335


Fisting
98


Striptease
159


Prostitution
437


Public/risky sex
479

Those votes won't change buddy, the game was rigged from the start.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Those votes won't change buddy, the game was rigged from the start.

And why isn't there a cuckqueaning kink? Why is it soo hard for devs to make the woman in the game cuck once in a while, where she shares the man with different girls, its just sad....

 

[Ray_D]

And why isn't there a cuckqueaning kink? Why is it soo hard for devs to make the woman in the game cuck once in a while, where she shares the man with different girls, its just sad....

If you want to understand the mentality of people who donate to eva you will have to play GGGB. Once you play it you will understand why they are the way they are.

 

[NewSeal]

Ivy getting Lena, Holly, Ian hooked on drugs

Speaking of which, I wonder what the significance of Ivy introducing Lena to stronger drugs will be down the line. I mean, any choice that requires will to deny is usually a pretty important one to the story, but what makes me curious in this case is that Ivy - as much of a cold hearted bitch as she can be - is still Lena's best friend. Would she really have ill-intent towards the only person who likes her for who she is, rather than her looks or fame?
Then again, she does go behind Lena's back to work with Axel (and does who knows what else with him), so maybe she really is equally small as she is hot.

 

[Leongen43]

Those votes won't change buddy, the game was rigged from the start.

What you said reminds me of the Fallout NV introduction, I guess those who expected something different from the survey felt like the protagonist, right?

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[Ray_D]

What you said reminds me of the Fallout NV intro, I guess those who expected something different from the survey felt like the protagonist, right?
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Let's just say that this phrase from new vegas was a good way to describe eva's vote.

 

[Geigi]

And why isn't there a cuckqueaning kink? Why is it soo hard for devs to make the woman in the game cuck once in a while, where she shares the man with different girls, its just sad....

Cuckolding is more popular than cuckqueaning even among the couples, why? No idea, I'm just telling that it is by reading various articles and discussions on the forums.

 

[Socrambus]

I guess to give patreons a false impression that their choices really matter.

It might be just that, easy engagement. We can see it has like 10 times the usual ammount of comments. It's an easy tactic that many bosses don't bother to use, instead of just doing whatever the fuck you want, ask your subordinates first for their opinion and then do whatever the fuck you wanted to do anyway. It costs you nothing and people will feel appreciated just to be listened to.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Evakiss just wanted to add prostitution so she made a bullshit poll to add it with her patreons approval

 

[Housewife]

I AM NOT A CUCK!!!!

Yeah, yeah.. Of course we know

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[1st]

I didn't like the ending of my last playthrough (Perry got frustrated and kicked everyone out, his friendship with Ian seemed ruined and Wade was dumped by Cindy).
Ok, so I started from the beginning. My main focus was to be as supportive to Ian friends as possible (Perry, Wade and Emma - cause they are the only ones Ian owns any loyalty), select only 1 LI for Ian and stick to it (I chose Emma cause she is the only one I find interesting).

The outcome, however, wasn't satisfacting either: all I managed was to help Perry with Cherry which eventualy made the rejection by Emma less hard for him. However, despite my efforts and all of the support, Wade ended again being dumped by Cindy.

That drives me to the conclusion that in order to change the final I actually have to work against Wade's interest and help Cindy instead. Their relacion is clearly toxic and common sense doesn't apply (obviously). It's a little bit silly cause Ian owns Cindy nothing and, TBH, she is the last character I would do any favours.

So, what is the solution here: help her get through the modeling sessions and befriend her (yuck!)? Won't that backfire on Ian's relation with Wade?

 

[gregers]

I didn't like the ending of my last playthrough (Perry got frustrated and kicked everyone out, his friendship with Ian seemed ruined and Wade was dumped by Cindy).
Ok, so I started from the beginning. My main focus was to be as supportive to Ian friends as possible (Perry, Wade and Emma - cause they are the only ones Ian owns any loyalty), select only 1 LI for Ian and stick to it (I chose Emma cause she is the only one I find interesting).

The outcome, however, wasn't satisfacting either: all I managed was to help Perry with Cherry which eventualy made the rejection by Emma less hard for him. However, despite my efforts and all of the support, Wade ended again being dumped by Cindy.

That drives me to the conclusion that in order to change the final I actually have to work against Wade's interest and help Cindy instead. Their relacion is clearly toxic and common sense doesn't apply (obviously). It's a little bit silly cause Ian owns Cindy nothing and, TBH, she is the last character I would do any favours.

So, what is the solution here: help her get through the modeling sessions and befriend her (yuck!)? Won't that backfire on Ian's relation with Wade?

Support and encourage their relationship, I think is the short answer. It's doomed anyway, but that'll give Wade the strength and clarity necessary to end it himself rather than be dumped.

 

[zoomzoomzoom]

Shame that nobody wanted fisting. I wanted to see a cheating Lena get fisted by Ian if she ain't whoring it up for Seymour.

 

[mommysboiii]

Cuckolding is more popular than cuckqueaning even among the couples, why? No idea, I'm just telling that it is by reading various articles and discussions on the forums.

This people are so clueless...

 

[bitofaperv]

Well, Eva says directly she'll use it as a gauge for future material, however far into the future were talking.

I don't think polling your audience should be seen as an endeavour lacking purpose in of itself, though I understand your criticism. She introduces the poll by mentioning "variety" but includes options like bbc, cucking and ffm which is already represented fairly imo.

I could see that she'll perhaps adjust what art she spends her time making. There is not much reason to spend a ton of time making fisting, watersports, rimming and foot fetish material if comparably few players care about it for example. I could also see her emphasise some of the more popular kinks with more of the various characters so players have a good selection regardless of who they pair up Lena and Ian with.

The game has been in a bit of a mess for two or three chapters now, and the time taken to develop is increasing. It seems pretty clear to me EK has hit a major creative roadblock and is struggling with devising new scenes and conflicts.

I'd say the person you are quoting is bang on the money about how this poll is quite worrying for the future of the game because it reveals both a lack of confidence (in it existing at all), and a lack of understanding of the work she has already done (the options included being largely stuff we've already gone through).

 

[Xupuzulla]

The seething about cuckholding is weird,that option is not even in the top 3 in the poll,even BBC is doing just ok wich is surprising,you will think the EK degen patreons would vote more for that...

 

[Socrambus]

I didn't like the ending of my last playthrough (Perry got frustrated and kicked everyone out, his friendship with Ian seemed ruined and Wade was dumped by Cindy).
Ok, so I started from the beginning. My main focus was to be as supportive to Ian friends as possible (Perry, Wade and Emma - cause they are the only ones Ian owns any loyalty), select only 1 LI for Ian and stick to it (I chose Emma cause she is the only one I find interesting).

The outcome, however, wasn't satisfacting either: all I managed was to help Perry with Cherry which eventualy made the rejection by Emma less hard for him. However, despite my efforts and all of the support, Wade ended again being dumped by Cindy.

That drives me to the conclusion that in order to change the final I actually have to work against Wade's interest and help Cindy instead. Their relacion is clearly toxic and common sense doesn't apply (obviously). It's a little bit silly cause Ian owns Cindy nothing and, TBH, she is the last character I would do any favours.

So, what is the solution here: help her get through the modeling sessions and befriend her (yuck!)? Won't that backfire on Ian's relation with Wade?

I'll try to do a simple quick guide (someone correct me if I'm missing something):

• Ian doesn't fuck Cindy
  • Don't make Ian go for Cindy and choose to tell Wade "You need to fight for Cindy" in chapter 4.
  • I'm not sure if this is really needed or not, but just in case don't leave before Cindy goes to Axel's flat for the photo session, make sure to choose "No touching" the second time, when he touches her leg and after the session tell her "Do you really want to be with Wade?".
  • During the last chapter, on the beach house tell Wade "Are you even happy with her?".
• Ian fucks Cindy
  • You can go all in after Cindy, just make sure to make Ian stop Wade from calling Cindy once he sees the post with the photos in chapter 6.
  • You continue going after Cindy, kiss her and/or fuck her after the birthday party disaster. Once you go with her to the photo session on Axel's flat, make sure to choose "No touching" the second time, when he touches her leg.
  • During the last chapter, on the beach house tell Wade "Are you even happy with her?".

The result for both these paths is that Wade decides do break up with Cindy during the beach trip and is on his way to accept their relationship is simply over and that's for the better.