VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[1st]

I'll try to do a simple quick guide (someone correct me if I'm missing something):

• Ian doesn't fuck Cindy
  • Don't make Ian go for Cindy and choose to tell Wade "You need to fight for Cindy" in chapter 4.
  • I'm not sure if this is really needed or not, but just in case don't leave before Cindy goes to Axel's flat for the photo session, make sure to choose "No touching" the second time, when he touches her leg and after the session tell her "Do you really want to be with Wade?".
  • During the last chapter, on the beach house tell Wade "Are you even happy with her?".

Ok, I think I know what I missed: I refused to go with Cindy for that photo session. The rest of the choices you pointed out were same in my playthrough.

 

[Skylark21]

The game has been in a bit of a mess for two or three chapters now, and the time taken to develop is increasing. It seems pretty clear to me EK has hit a major creative roadblock and is struggling with devising new scenes and conflicts.

I'd say the person you are quoting is bang on the money about how this poll is quite worrying for the future of the game because it reveals both a lack of confidence (in it existing at all), and a lack of understanding of the work she has already done (the options included being largely stuff we've already gone through).

You know Eva has been conducting such polls since GGGB days right? She simply uses them to know her patrons, gauge what they like, get them involved, yk some basic shit. It has nothing to do with future or writing of the game smh.

 

[Xupuzulla]

You know Eva has been conducting such polls since GGGB times right? She simply uses them to know her patrons, gauge what they like, get them involved, yk some basic shit. It has nothing to do with future or writing of the game smh.

I agree with you but you will think Evakiss would have a good idea of what her patreons like by now.
For me this poll seems like a way for EK to keep her paid patreons "involved" while shes finishing the Seymour update,give them what they want and keep them happy.

 

[Skylark21]

The seething about cuckholding is weird,that option is not even in the top 3 in the poll,even BBC is doing just ok wich is surprising,you will think the EK degen patreons would vote more for that...

Contrary to opinion of some these "Sigma freeloaders", cuckolding has never been a big of deal for most of her patrons rather they prefer corruption/ cheating over it. This new poll doesn't include Cheating in it, probably reason why cuckolding got so many votes, it's the closest one to cheating.

 

[Puggy Aiden]

How can I make Perry romance Cherry? She should kiss him before saying goodbye after the exhibition right?

 

[Puggy Aiden]

Is this the reason perry isn't will romancing cherry for me?

 

[xxxtentaci0n]

It's a mod called universal choice descriptor.

where can I download it?

 

[Gicoo]

Ok, so I started from the beginning. My main focus was to be as supportive to Ian friends as possible (Perry, Wade and Emma - cause they are the only ones Ian owns any loyalty), select only 1 LI for Ian and stick to it (I chose Emma cause she is the only one I find interesting).

Fucking your friends decade old crush in his vacation home while he is planning to confess to her isn't supportive to said friend.

 

[1st]

Fucking your friends decade old crush in his vacation home while he is planning to confess to her isn't supportive to said friend.

Well.. Not after such declaration:

 

[Socrambus]

Fucking your friends decade old crush in his vacation home while he is planning to confess to her isn't supportive to said friend.

Tough love is still love, right?. It took Perry like 10 years, some shock therapy counts as support too .

 

[ffive]

Well.. Not after such declaration:
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Even Perry knows he's lying his ass off. Much like you are about "supporting Ian's friends" when you know perfectly well what you're doing in reality.

 

[1st]

Even Perry knows he's lying his ass off. Much like you are about "supporting Ian's friends" when you know perfectly well what you're doing in reality.

I'm not sure if you are refering to the game or the RL now? If it's about the game then the answer is simple: we're limited in dialogue options. In RL on the other hand, I believe that two close friends who are interested in one woman could talk it through and at least be honest with each other, if that is what you were suggesting.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of "asking for permission" because it's simply dumb: love interest is a human being and not an item, that's a 1st thing, and second: one should watch his words, like Perry with his statement about Emma because it clearly opens the door for others. Take it or leave it, simple as that.

 

[ffive]

I'm not sure if you are refering to the game or the RL now?

Well, it's a bit of both. Though the lie about "supporting Ian's friends" is mostly in RL, because having played the game you are fully aware that despite his claims about not being interested in Emma romantically Perry will try to confess his feelings to her in Ch.12, and so the actions you pick for your Ian are directly sabotaging his chances to have his feelings returned by Emma. "They should be honest and talk it through" is not an option in the game and, again, you know it.

 

[fatpussy123]

I'm not sure if you are refering to the game or the RL now? If it's about the game then the answer is simple: we're limited in dialogue options. In RL on the other hand, I believe that two close friends who are interested in one woman could talk it through and at least be honest with each other, if that is what you were suggesting.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of "asking for permission" because it's simply dumb: love interest is a human being and not an item, that's a 1st thing, and second: one should watch his words, like Perry with his statement about Emma because it clearly opens the door for others. Take it or leave it, simple as that.

Perry is a very high maintenance friend. Thus asking permission to fuck Emma would never work out. Either he sleeps with her or he isn't happy and you are not being a "supporting friend". The only way to keep Perry happy is to realize his feelings for Emma despite his denial and to play wingman. If he doesn't sleep with Emma he won't be happy.

 

[Socrambus]

Well, it's a bit of both. Though the lie about "supporting Ian's friends" is mostly in RL, because having played the game you are fully aware that despite his claims about not being interested in Emma romantically Perry will try to confess his feelings to her in Ch.12, and so the actions you pick for your Ian are directly sabotaging his chances to have his feelings returned by Emma. "They should be honest and talk it through" is not an option in the game and, again, you know it.

Perry is a very high maintenance friend. Thus asking permission to fuck Emma would never work out. Either he sleeps with her or he isn't happy and you are not being a "supporting friend". The only way to keep Perry happy is to realize his feelings for Emma despite his denial and to play wingman. If he doesn't sleep with Emma he won't be happy.

I'm not sure why there's no option for Ian to discourage Perry from going after Emma. Ian can't even be neutral when talking about Perry's feelings so the game doesn't allow Ian to fuck Emma and be a decent friend. Ian can't even be a bit decent and try to stop Perry from confessing when he knows is totally doomed. I know that the game is already complex enough, but it feels weird with Ian being able to encourage/discourage Jeremy/Alison, Jeremy/Emma and Cindy/Wade.

 

[ffive]

Ian can't even be a bit decent and try to stop Perry from confessing when he knows is totally doomed.

Yeah, that's pretty meh. It doesn't make it any better that Ian's comments about Perry's failed confession can be then quite snide.

 

[1st]

"They should be honest and talk it through" is not an option in the game and, again, you know it.

That's.. litteraly what I wrote in a previous post: we're limited in options in the game. There is no other choice because the author made it that way. So it all comes to this: do you care about the love interest or not?

I'm just separating those two things: friends and love interests, because they're simply not the same. That said, I see no problem supporting friends in any other way. But hey, if I like the girl I will go for her. If Perry liked Emma he should go for her too. If he didn't he's the only one to blame. Ian is not taking her away from him - she is single and not his girlfriend. I really see no problem here.

 

[Leongen43]

Perry is a very high maintenance friend. Thus asking permission to fuck Emma would never work out. Either he sleeps with her or he isn't happy and you are not being a "supporting friend". The only way to keep Perry happy is to realize his feelings for Emma despite his denial and to play wingman. If he doesn't sleep with Emma he won't be happy.

From the beginning Perry's drug addict Pikachu was a pain in the ass where I had to convince him to do the most basic things and we really have to think about feelings and let him have the best ass in the game....fuck it, hell NO!! Emma's ass is mine
As Gollum would say "my treasure"

 

[ffive]

I'm just separating those two things: friends and love interests, because they're simply not the same. That said, I see no problem supporting friends in any other way. But hey, if I like the girl I will go for her. If Perry liked Emma he should go for her too. If he didn't he's the only one to blame. Ian is not taking her away from her - she is single and not his girlfriend. I really see no problem here.

There's no problem here per se. It's just that you're being simply disingenuous in your reasoning -- separating friends and love interests is not an option when you are going for friend's love interest. And you know it, just like you know that Perry does eventually "go for Emma". So you've knowingly made a false statement that your focus in the playthrough was on supporting Ian's friends, while in reality you were sabotaging one of his friends, instead of supporting him. It's just like Perry's statement about only liking Emma as friend, when in reality he's got romantic feelings for her. It was this simple similarity in your respective behaviors that i pointed out.

 

[Socrambus]

Yeah, that's pretty meh. It doesn't make it any better that Ian's comments about Perry's failed confession can be then quite snide.

That part fits, he's only really snide when his relationship with Perry is very low. It reads wronger when Ian has a high relationship with Perry and he fucked Emma anyway. Current writing only works for Ian fully helping Perry to get Emma while having a high relationship with him or Ian fucking Emma (bonus asshole points if you promised Perry to help him and you fuck her just a few hours later) and having a very low relationship with Perry.